Why does hillary clinton suck?

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First I did not mean to suggest FOI was bad however it is being used as a tool to go after political rivals. And then the frivlous lawsuits that follow pick up the task the task from there and the press coverage.


And so the frivolous lawsuits get thrown out of court or even better WON by Judicial Watch's opposition and maybe when Judicial Watch has to pay for Clinton's defense against their "lawsuits", they will stop their frivolous lawsuits. If Clinton wants to make them stop, her legal team would destroy them in court... that has yet to happen.

You would make better use of your time asking the question of, "Why doesn't Clinton's legal team(s) mount a more robust and effective defense against Judicial Watch"?

Second obviously dude you didn't read the links. I decline to go over it (redundant). Suffice it to say Richard Mellon Scaife used his immense wealth to help fund Clinton watch opps I mean Judicial Watch. As far as them having ZERO effect well let's just say that's bullshit.

You don't understand the point I am making... Judicial Watch OPERATES WITHIN THE LAW. They are not doing anything illegal.

You realize that I have quite a fair bit of depth of knowledge about Judicial Watch right? Your links number one are redundant, number two they are for people that have never heard of Judicial Watch.

Have you ever stopped to think that Clinton BENEFITS from the email "scandal"? It absolutely FIRES up her base with a nuclear reactor-like power that only gets properly energized from defending against a "persecution"... you guys get to run around linking arms like you are chained to a Mahogany tree in the Amazon... protecting that sacred tree from the evil loggers.

Well.. Hillary is your sacred tree and the right wing are your loggers. THIS is your protest power turned inward... used to fire up the base and amplify your "righteous indignation". There is NO more powerful force in nature than "righteous indignation".

Clinton enjoys the email scandal... the right wingers who give a shit about the emails WOULD HAVE NEVER VOTED FOR HILLARY AND WERE SOLIDLY IN THE ANTI-HILLARY CAMP BEFORE THE EMAIL "SCANDAL" EVER EVEN BROKE IN THE MEDIA... and it gives you liberal partisan Democrats something solid to rail against.

Clinton could have beaten these guys in court by now if she actually wanted to.
 

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in that i would suggest sargon that its purely a case of
'buyer beware'
as in the blame'if you like,can solely be placed on Trumps shoulders as compared to the USAs nemesis

surely a case as with all other Trumpish 1/2 truths and deceptiveness,BS that had seemingly convinced an ever reducing amount of folloewrs huh ..


Mr. Putin surely knows the answer to that question — but U.S. voters do not.
 
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Google some info on her and you'll see she has no credibility whatsoever. The other women's stories may have more validity and my sympathy is with them.

You posted a link to another forum. If you want to prove your case you should post that information and not a link to an image nor send others on a fact finding chase you bailed out of.

Never mind you've got a slew of other women to discredit...good luck...

An Exhaustive List of the Allegations Women Have Made Against Donald Trump
 
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2 questions;

A. Why didn't Billy Bush release the audio tape when hen a Uncle Jeb was still running for President?

B. What joggled all of these women's collective memories?
 

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2 questions;

A. Why didn't Billy Bush release the audio tape when hen a Uncle Jeb was still running for President?
He didn't want it released as he knew it would get him fired
B. What joggled all of these women's collective memories?
Mr Trump's statement during the debate where he denied ever committing sexual assault.
 
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If he knew he would get fired, then why did he release it?

So, all of these women who were molested by Trump were all collectively keeping quiet because nobody had asked Trump yet about if he had ever sexually accosted anybody?
They were all going to keep quiet and just vote for Hillary because they shared in her pain and believed she is a strong woman to have had to put up with and defend her husband the way she had to for 20+ years, even though they themselves knew what it feels like to be sexually abused?
So they were standing behind a woman who was protecting her sexually abusing husband?
 
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If he knew he would get fired, then why did he release it?

So, all of these women who were molested by Trump were all collectively keeping quiet because nobody had asked Trump yet about if he had ever sexually accosted anybody?
They were all going to keep quiet and just vote for Hillary because they shared in her pain and believed she is a strong woman to have had to put up with and defend her husband?

In general, do you believe Bill Cosby's accusers, or do you think they are lying? There are almost 60 of them now. I'm not asking if you believe or disbelieve any specific one of them, I'm just saying that as a group, do you think there is substance to their claims, or do you think they are lying?

Because it's the same thing, right? Bill Cosby was on TV for decades. And the allegations of abuse by Bill Cosby go back for decades. But all these allegations are recent. Because someone finally said something, and then it gave others the courage to step forward and relate their experiences as well.

That's not necessarily an argument that the accusations against Trump are true, but do you see where your specific argument against them being true is super flawed?
 

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If he knew he would get fired, then why did he release it?

So, all of these women who were molested by Trump were all collectively keeping quiet because nobody had asked Trump yet about if he had ever sexually accosted anybody?
They were all going to keep quiet and just vote for Hillary because they shared in her pain and believed she is a strong woman to have had to put up with and defend her husband the way she had to for 20+ years, even though they themselves knew what it feels like to be sexually abused?
So they were standing behind a woman who was protecting her sexually abusing husband?
I don't have discussions with people who traffic in conspiracy theories. It's pointless.
 

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Correto..exactomundo..but why the long wait ..When he was running against the other 16 republican politicians, where were these long exhaustive lists of women trump sbused?
 

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In general, do you believe Bill Cosby's accusers, or do you think they are lying? There are almost 60 of them now. I'm not asking if you believe or disbelieve any specific one of them, I'm just saying that as a group, do you think there is substance to their claims, or do you think they are lying?

Because it's the same thing, right? Bill Cosby was on TV for decades. And the allegations of abuse by Bill Cosby go back for decades. But all these allegations are recent. Because someone finally said something, and then it gave others the courage to step forward and relate their experiences as well.

That's not necessarily an argument that the accusations against Trump are true, but do you see where your specific argument against them being true is super flawed?
I am not say these women are lying.
Bill Cosby is mit running for President, just like Bill Clinton is not running for President.
Donald Trump was on TV a decade at least.
So you're saying Billy Bushes tape gave them the courage..Ok, well..Why didn't Billy Bush release the tape when his Uncle Jeb was still running?
What made him wait so long, besides the threat of being fired, posted in red above
 

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I am not say these women are lying.
Bill Cosby is mit running for President, just like Bill Clinton is not running for President.
Donald Trump was on TV a decade at least.
So you're saying Billy Bushes tape gave them the courage..Ok, well..Why didn't Billy Bush release the tape when his Uncle Jeb was still running?

Billy Bush didn't release that tape (he lost his job over it).

NBC (or some employee thereof) released the tape.

I absolutely would believe that they timed the release of the tape so that it would generate extra attention / ratings / damage. I don't know if that's the case or not, but it's eminently believable.

The timing of their release of the tape does not, however, absolve Donald Trump from any of the statements he made on it.

A proper apology could've absolved him, but he failed to make one. Instead, he combined a shit apology along with more current statements and actions that also make him appear misogynist.
 

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Billy Bush didn't release that tape (he lost his job over it).

NBC (or some employee thereof) released the tape.

I absolutely would believe that they timed the release of the tape so that it would generate extra attention / ratings / damage. I don't know if that's the case or not, but it's eminently believable.

The timing of their release of the tape does not, however, absolve Donald Trump from any of the statements he made on it.
No, really?
So why didn't NBC release the tape earlier? Because?...and
why didn't they fire Billy Bush earlier? Because?
So now the truth, not a conspiracy theory, but the truth is..someone, just one someone at NBC released the tape and then suspended Billy Bush?
Yup..sounds real plausible to me alright..

So if the Russians can hack into DNC emails, and Podesta says the hacked Clinton emails are fake,
The released audio of Billy Bush and Donald are real and so is the exhaustive list of Trumps sexual assault victims....cuz ..taa ~ daa..the media said so?
 
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No, really?
So why didn't NBC release the tape earlier? Because?...and
why didn't they fire Billy Bush earlier? Because?
So now the truth, not a conspiracy theory, but the truth is..someone, just one someone at NBC released the tape and then suspended Billy Bush?
Yup..sounds real plausible to me alright..

Um... I think your tinfoil hat slipped down over your eyes. Re-read my post.

"it's eminently believable." That means I believe it could be true. I think it's plausible. I agree the timing could have been politically motivated.

So why are you repeating the same argument?
 

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What argument?.. You mean, the why now argument?
What the fuck tinfoil? Sheesh..methinks your hip waiters are leakin bubba..what's that smell?
 

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What argument?.. You mean, the why now argument?

Yes, the fucking "why now" argument. I agreed with you on that, so why are you still making it at me?


What the fuck tinfoil? Sheesh..methinks your hip waiters are leakin bubba..what's that smell?

Sorry man, every 9/11 truther gets a tinfoil hat in my mind. No exceptions :p