why does jelqing work and pumping doesn't?

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  1. bigdong

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    How come jelqing works and pumping dosent when they are both pretty much doing the same thing, drawing blood into the penis and enlaring it. It never really made sense to me, can someone explain? I'm talking about those vacuum pumps not the manual way.
     
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    How do you know one works and not the other? I always assumed neither really worked unless you are doing it while going through your growth spurt with all the proper growth hormones in place.

    Otherwise, I see it like stretching an ear lobe with progressively larger ear lobe stretching nobs. What do you get, not a bigger earlobe per se, but a stretched thin connective tissue of some sort.

    I may be wrong.
     
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    Although this is just a hunch of mine, I suspect that the traumatic effect of pumping causes tissue to break down and then repair itself and that in itself might inhibit any new growth from occurring. Jelquing is a self- induced and controlled very slow and measured massaging and stretching process which might just better permit new tissue to grow and expand! I can not explain it at the molecular level.. but one does seem to construct and the other to breakdown and reconstruct!:smile:
     
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    Is this anectodal information or your own personal experience?
     
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    You are wrong :wink:
     
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    You know, I started "jelqing" when I was 6. That is, I would masturbate, and keep myself on the edge of cumming for 2 hours... I still do that. I guess I was into penis enlargement before I was actually enlarging. :)
     
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    I think this could be the reason for your big thing.
    I guess all the hung guys started masturbating early and very often :biggrin1:
     
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    I grew 1" in over a year with pumping and I am currently growing with jelqing.
    Seems like jelquing suits you better, so stick to that!
    Penis enlargement is so painfully slow that it is easy to get discouraged, if you only achieve 1/8" growth in a month, be very satisfied - in 8 months you will grow an inch!
     
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    actually an inch is pretty much
     
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    This is my own personal experience. Anecdotal evidence seems somewhat mixed. I did not employ jelquing early on.... only picked up on it about 5 years ago when my normally very large and extra thick cock started to disappoint me sizewise much of the time. I tried pumping at first, but became alarmed at the time necessary to recover from painful tissue damage after each session! Jelquing is my preferred method of tuning and toning up my cock to maximum size and performance condition! :smile:
     
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    Personally I think they are both bollox
    Having a big dick is cool but honestly sum ppl on ere are obsessed about it.
    I think physcologically people who have been jelquing put in their mind that they have grown and are like shit i grew 2 inches in 1 year, pleaseeee that is bollox!
    I to somewhat extent believe what johan says as I have heard that kids who get erections earlier will have a bigger penis and thinking about it I started getting erections at 7/8 years old, maybe even earlier i really cant remember
     
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    ye ye, only problem is there are hundreds of guys out there who proved you wrong already.
     
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    Some people believe in extraterestrials, racial superiority, fairies in view of the evidence to the contrary. Both jelquing and pumping are physically dangerous in that they destroy perfectly healthy cells. Trash the theories with the snake poil.
     
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    - Erections start already in the womb

    - Jelquing works for most of the people who try it. (Works = getting a larger phalus permanently)
     
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    Pumping does work, particularly when used with jelqing. The key to pumping is to have a good pump and to use it properly. Most guys use WAY too much pressure in the chamber causing damage.

    The key to any penis enlargement (PE) regimen is to learn what the veterans have done to succeed and follow it. Like any other physical improvement exercise, PE done wrong can do severe damage. If you have the will keep with the program and to listen to the advice given, you will most likely see gains.

    Then why are you reading this forum?
     
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    LOL,i agree with you..personally,i've browse this site for the same reason as the other..i do want to gain more girth and length..
     
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    Yes and true investigation and research pales by comparison to your method of hearing something and believing it may be so without doing basic testing and individual research? Bollox to that! :rolleyes:
     
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    Jelqing works because your constantly pulling blood to the head in a outward motion and pumping only pulls your cock.
     
  19. Cheeky_monkey

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    Ok.... so howcum then when Ive seen TV shows where blokes with small dicks (well actually not that small) and they want bigger dicks, they goto a doctor for penis surgery. The doctor does say to patients that some of them have average penis size and surgery wont improve it that much...howcum none of them have even mentioned jelquing or say why dont you try and penis pump for a year then come back?
     
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    I think Thunder says it best:



    - Does Penis Enlargement Work?: Thunder's Place Free PE Forums

    To get a study that would be near impossible to refute you'd need an army of anatomists, physiologists, urologists, and participants. You'd actually have to watch them perform PE to guarantee technique is being properly executed and trust the subjects to do no more than what is prescribed. You'd need plethysmographs and blood work including some very expensive tests. You'd need a broad range of males with clinical proof that they are not still in puberty (some late teens/early 20s are), or have hormonal abnormalities.

    And to what end? There's no money to be made from proving or disproving PE. It's rather like Bigfoot or the Loch Ness Monster, sure everyone in the world would like a definitive answer but as the money to be made would be far less than the cost of actually finding out, it isn't done.

    There's also a cultural aspect to all of it.

    For health care providers to do what they do, they have to believe in their own superior ability to practice medicine. It's a double-edged sword. Patients think doctors see themselves as gods while doctors think they know it all. You, as a patient, want this. Last thing you want is an unconfident doctor to practice life-endangering surgery on you. Your doctor has to walk up to your living body, open it, fix it, and sew it back together without killing you.

    There is also the subject of, 'what is an adequate penis?' Any physician or anatomist will tell you that a penis need only be three inches to accomplish its goal of depositing semen in a vagina. To physicians, bodies are complex machines. This is SO drilled into their heads that when a patient shows-up saying, "My nose is too big," or, "My jaw isn't broad enough," they do a psychological evaluation to determine if you're, in their opinion, someone who agrees that your nose or jaw are really just fine but you'd like to change them for cosmetic reasons, or you're someone who really and truly believes those parts of your body to be unacceptable. If you're the first, then you think like the doctors do and so you're not nuts. If you're the latter, then you're nuts, you have body dysmophia, and you need psychiatric help, not a plastic surgeon, despite the fact that the second person would receive far greater psychological benefit from the surgery than the first person!

    So what do you do when you're a physician whose male patients tell him they're not satisfied with their penis size? Some of these guys are 3.5", some are 6", some are 8". None of them are happy yet in each case the penis performs normally. They can't all be crazy yet there are no surgeries that truly increase penis size so a cosmetic procedure is out of the question. You've heard of some iffy massage techniques but someone could really damage themselves and again, there's no proof, plus Mrs. Drapkin is in the next room complaining of her bursitis and you have to see at least 40 patients today to pay the bills AND the last thing you need is a law suit from someone who fucks-up his penis by trying to pump or massage or get his ligaments cut because you vaguely suggested it? You've never been sued in your life but your malpractice premium is $250,000. a year.

    What would you do in that position?

    You can't recommend the patient actually do anything to his penis because you don't have any definitive medical studies to refer to in case your practice of medicine becomes a legal matter. You'd have nothing to stand on other than your expertise.

    What you can do is tell the person that he's, "fine", "normal", "not to worry", "any woman who loves you will find you perfectly adequate," "it's all in your head," "well-adjusted men don't worry about penis size," or any other unending stream of platitudes. The last thing you want is half your patients being worried and besides, you're a doctor, they'll appreciate being reassured.

    Remember BV? Before Viagra? Erectile Dysfunction was nearly always psychological unless you were old or had documented vascular problems. Those few men, less than 20%, who really did have vascular problems, could get implants. If you were young and couldn't get it up you needed a psychiatrist. If you were old and couldn't get it up you needed to be happy with your memories of sex and be happy you won't give yourself a heart attack by trying to, "have sex at your age."

    Viagra changed all that. Suddenly the psychological aspect became more rare, all those neuroses didn't matter, penis basically there? Great. Here's a pill.

    What happened? Medicine (drug companies) found a way to change the perception physicians. What was psychological became physical because now doctors could DO something their patients wanted.

    There's no such money to be made from PE. It's out there for any man to discover and the internet has allowed unprecendented information sharing among those who do it. Some men don't search hard enough and find pay sites, but as people grow more internet savy, search engines grow better, so PE becomes easier to find and do without having to pay someone to tell you something you can find for free. There are still no studies, still nothing other than anecdotal proof. There are images out there of men who have submitted untouched photographs showing length and girth gains physicians claim are impossible to achieve.

    There are also physicians who know all about this, are members of these forums and do PE themselves, seeing the results, but can't, for libability reasons, say a word to their patients about it because they can't cite extensive medical research proving their advice was clinically advisable for treatment.

    That's the story with PE. For now. The internet is making PE a big deal. It's only going to get more popular. A lot depends on what happens with the Adams method. This is a patented method claiming permanent gains from daily penile injections of hormones and is being administered by a physician who has cited clinical proof of gains. The practice is in Toronto at Doctors 4 Men. If their method gets its patent approved and there doesn't seem to be much risk, then this will become THE biggest thing in medicine. It will make the cover of magazines, newspapers, blogs, and the evening news. Then there will be studies because there will be hundreds of billions of dollars to be made.

    You can make your penis bigger. Now.
     
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