Why Don't Women Often Acknowledge That Penis Size Is A Major Factor In Judging Male Attractiveness?

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It's almost like some guys get their distorted view of the superiority of larger penises due to the alleged existence of some websites dedicated to assisting men over the trauma of being endowed with monster cock.
 

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Such as plenty of guys with average and small dicks are getting laid, pursuing long term relationships, and having families. So what you’re suggesting falls outside of the experience of most people.

This circumstance does not necessarily have any correlation to what the women in these relationships truly want in terms of penises.

(Especially if you believe what has been stated here about it being a secondary factor in terms of attractiveness in mate selection...)

For example, I really want a Ferrari.

Despite that, I'm not gonna walk to my destinations for decades waiting for one.
 
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That could be because some women have been with "big" men and average to small size men and have discovered that the size really doesn't matter in terms of being an ahole or something to that effect. All sizes do their best in bed and it's up to the woman if they are hitting the right spots. Just because they may feel "fuller" when it's bigger does not necessarily mean it's the best they ever had. And I agree with above, porn puts big dicks at the top of the list and that's due to visuals, etc., not necessarily that that same big dick isn't even moving her ocean. While it may have that "ooooohhh" factor at first, in real life it depends on so many other things. If they are good in bed and also fun to be with etc., I think in general it really doesn't matter.

This is so true. Porn makes everyone think that the biggest dick is the best. I’ve seen several men who have a big dick in porn, but can’t fuck worth a damn.
 
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Can you show where women want/prefer/idealize small (outside of fetish Sph?)

Yes. My wife: “I would’ve been better off with a guy who was smaller than average and you would’ve been better off with a woman who likes them big. Although I’ve never met a woman who does.”
 

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That could be because some women have been with "big" men and average to small size men and have discovered that the size really doesn't matter in terms of being an ahole or something to that effect. All sizes do their best in bed and it's up to the woman if they are hitting the right spots. Just because they may feel "fuller" when it's bigger does not necessarily mean it's the best they ever had. And I agree with above, porn puts big dicks at the top of the list and that's due to visuals, etc., not necessarily that that same big dick isn't even moving her ocean. While it may have that "ooooohhh" factor at first, in real life it depends on so many other things. If they are good in bed and also fun to be with etc., I think in general it really doesn't matter.
visual and fake orgasm and exaggerated words
a pure fiction :D
what is sad is some girls watching porn have the bad idea to act like what girls do in porn is normal
 

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I’ve never had a female friend say that she left a relationship because of a guy’s small dick.

I have had a female friend relate than an ex-boyfriend was small. Both as an insult and as a “just the facts” kind of comment.

I’ve also had two female friends say they’ve been with men who were too big. One call the dude the “dick of death”. And that the experience was bad. (Both were one-night stands.)

So, it’s a complicated dance. In the end, for a straight man with a dick size within 2 standard deviations, there is absolutely NO reason for him to blame his size for preventing him from losing his virginity or finding a mate.

It’s like saying that because I’m not good enough to play in the NBA, no one will ever want to play basketball with me.
 

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visual and fake orgasm and exaggerated words
a pure fiction :D
what is sad is some girls watching porn have the bad idea to act like what girls do in porn is normal

women are well aware of how size plays into men’s egos. So lots of women will comment even if it doesn’t really matter to them.

telling the man they love that their cock is so big. Or so good.

or telling the man they used to love and now hate that his dick is small and never got them off.

maybe there’s SOME truth in it both ways.
 
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I'm not really sure, to be honest.

I know it's all boilerplate stuff, like they work from a Play-Doh template, pressing out the same soulless, formulaic pap year after year, decade after decade. Squish! Squish! Here's Rom com number #34279. Here's action movie #53327.

I think people need to take all that stuff with a grain of salt, if not the whole salt shaker. Especially what Hollywood says about penises.

kind of like porn.
 
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This circumstance does not necessarily have any correlation to what the women in these relationships truly want in terms of penises.

(Especially if you believe what has been stated here about it being a secondary factor in terms of attractiveness in mate selection...)

For example, I really want a Ferrari.

Despite that, I'm not gonna walk to my destinations for decades waiting for one.

This is such spurious “logic” it’s not even really worth disputing.

But what you’re suggesting contradicts the central premise of this thread because clearly for your suggestion to be true bigger dick a sufficiently low priority as to not be a deciding factor basically ever and almost any other consideration has higher priority.

Which is basically to say big dicks aren’t a priority outside of specific fetishisation and the stipulation that it’s a major consideration for most women remains wrong.
 
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the stipulation that it’s a major consideration for most women remains wrong.

I never said otherwise.

This is such spurious “logic” it’s not even really worth disputing.

Spurious "logic"?

How is a woman settling down with a dude a definitive indicator that his penis is optimal for her preferences?

As we've read many times, she'll choose the dude over the dick. His dick could be her 5th favorite, but it's good 'nuff cause she loves him overall.
 
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By and large, this debate is semantic, and that’s why it’s hard to resolve. To arrive at an answer, the terms would have to be laid out clearly in advance, e.g., defining “major factor,” “judging,” even “women.” But then someone could just develop a different methodology.

So I don’t expect to find a final answer. Still, this study seems worth noting: Women's Preferences for Penis Size: A New Research Method Using Selection among 3D Models. It also lines up with what I’ve been told over the years—that women generally prefer a big (but not very big or huge) penis. To repeat, I’m not claiming that there aren’t other ways of looking at the issue. But here is a case where anecdotal evidence seems to have some scientific backing. TIFWIW
 
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By and large, this debate is semantic, and that’s why it’s hard to resolve. To arrive at an answer, the terms would have to be laid out clearly in advance, e.g., defining “major factor,” “judging,” even “women.” But then someone could just develop a different methodology.

So I don’t expect to find a final answer. Still, this study seems worth noting: Women's Preferences for Penis Size: A New Research Method Using Selection among 3D Models. It also lines up with what I’ve been told over the years—that women generally prefer a big (but not very big or huge) penis. To repeat, I’m not claiming that there aren’t other ways of looking at the issue. But here is a case where anecdotal evidence seems to have some scientific backing. TIFWIW
that doesn't answer at all
i think you misunderstand :
- when asking for only specific subject of penis and only this subject of course they don't answer the major criteria of choosing a partner only this minor one (for a few women)
- like any statisticc there is diversity and there is the context. we don't know if the women chosen are especially into happy doing such study then how to say they could represent any woman. let's think about it. not lot of women would accept to participate such study. that and other context of the study (oriented, sponsored, and so)

so clearly this doesn't answer at all. should be a neutral , lot of women, and the study should then ask all criteria of choice for a man
and that is not what you say . so not answering at all :D
 
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It's almost like some guys get their distorted view of the superiority of larger penises due to the alleged existence of some websites dedicated to assisting men over the trauma of being endowed with monster cock.

sooooo funny ;-)
 
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that doesn't answer at all
i think you misunderstand :
- when asking for only specific subject of penis and only this subject of course they don't answer the major criteria of choosing a partner only this minor one (for a few women)
- like any statisticc there is diversity and there is the context. we don't know if the women chosen are especially into happy doing such study then how to say they could represent any woman. let's think about it. not lot of women would accept to participate such study. that and other context of the study (oriented, sponsored, and so)

so clearly this doesn't answer at all. should be a neutral , lot of women, and the study should then ask all criteria of choice for a man
and that is not what you say . so not answering at all :D
I said up front that nothing is final when it comes to this question, so I concede your point. But it did seem like a study worth mentioning.
 
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I saw this thread pop up on the main page and think I've responded at least on this topic more than once.

Anyone who thinks they can speak about "women" as if we fall into patterns of answers to direct questions has a lot of problems. We're not a collective. We don't all or mostly think alike. And we also find that a lot of men are like we are - very different once you get to know us. Even looking at the study above is hilarious. It's 75 women (very small sample to represent all women) and only 36 were heterosexual. Many of us don't have a static point of view and make exceptions, and it doesn't look like there was much thoughtful questioning in the study.

Some examples: I fall for a guy mostly for his smile and face, sense of humor, etc. I'll take a guy with a smaller than average penis over one with a larger penis, if he's interesting, a good kisser, funny, kind and open-minded and at in bed – good at oral, using his hands, doesn't mind using toys etc. I had incredible sex with a guy whose penis was only about 9 cm hard but it was just very pretty for some reason and there was something about the way it rested on his balls (and he was very cute). I had sex with another guy with a penis about the same size who also liked to have toys used on him. Watching him cum with a butt plug was very entertaining.

Sex for many women is about the whole experience. It's not just about getting penetrated.
 
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You really can’t help this discussion by being a woman and representing a more diverse viewpoint than the utterly two dimensional one this thread represents from the viewpoint of a man on the internet unfortunately.

The predictable response is gonna be “well you didn’t say you prefer a tiny dick therefore bigger dicks are what you want”. Which is a pretty basic logical fallacy but it’s already seen daylight several times in this thread.

Because dick size is such a priority for these guys they seem unable to grasp the idea that it’s at best a novelty for many a curiosity for some and perhaps a fetish for a minority of others. They’re going to project their personal need to be validated by the size of their cocks onto all women, naturally ignoring that women are not all the same and not all interested in them automatically because they have a wang and they’re super interested in it themselves.

Unfortunately it is true that often the person most interested in a giant cock is the guy who thinks his cock is a giant.
 

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This ^^^.... Coupled with the delusion that having an above average size one somehow automatically makes you better in bed & guarantees female orgasm and porn-level sex.
Interesting to note that the ones making the biggest noise about it are never seen with a woman.
Weird. Lol
 
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You really can’t help this discussion by being a woman and representing a more diverse viewpoint than the utterly two dimensional one this thread represents from the viewpoint of a man on the internet unfortunately.

The predictable response is gonna be “well you didn’t say you prefer a tiny dick therefore bigger dicks are what you want”. Which is a pretty basic logical fallacy but it’s already seen daylight several times in this thread.

Because dick size is such a priority for these guys they seem unable to grasp the idea that it’s at best a novelty for many a curiosity for some and perhaps a fetish for a minority of others. They’re going to project their personal need to be validated by the size of their cocks onto all women, naturally ignoring that women are not all the same and not all interested in them automatically because they have a wang and they’re super interested in it themselves.

Unfortunately it is true that often the person most interested in a giant cock is the guy who thinks his cock is a giant.

Very well put!