Why is the GOP sinking?

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  1. D_Ireonsyd_Colonrinse

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    The non-partisan Politico.com asks the question:

    Why is the GOP sinking?

    Polling indicates that Americans are not buying the escalating criticism of Obama by Republicans -- quite the contrary. Is it something they said, or is it just that Obama is so popular?


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    John Hostettler, Former Republican member of House: "The wandering in the wilderness has begun"



    Sherrilyn Ifill, Professor of Law, U. Md.: "They're looking less like a Party, and more like a group of disgruntled kids in the schoolyard throwing spitballs at the class president."

    "Americans get the big picture. They know that this financial crisis is not going to be solved in 3 months. They trust that Obama and his team are working on it."



    Dana Perino, Former White House Press Secretary: "People can both have strong feelings of approval for someone and still be uncomfortable with his or her policies "

    "There's no question that President Obama is very popular - and that's understandable -- for goodness sakes it's only been about 10 weeks since he took office. It will take some time to see if his policies remain as popular as he does. I think the Republicans are right to point out that there are many who are questioning those policies and from what I've seen they've kept the arguments to the merits of the proposals, and that's good for everyone."



    David Boaz, Executive VP, Cato Institute: "The Bush-Hastert-DeLay Republicans really ran the brand into the ground."

    "It may take a long time to recover the party’s credibility on fiscal conservatism, integrity, and limited government. Note that even amid economic crisis and Obama’s popularity, “smaller government with fewer services” is still more popular than “larger government with more services.”


    Bruce Bartlett, Washington-based author: "In politics, as in sports, you can’t beat something with nothing."

    "... If I were still a Republican, I would tell party leaders to stop listening to talk radio, stop watching Fox News, and stop treating every issue as an opportunity to attack Obama. Cut the guy some slack. Give him credit when it is due."


    Alan Schroeder, Professor of Journalism, Northeastern University: "If Republicans expect to counter the president's popularity, they must first cure themselves of Obama Derangement Syndrome"

    "Barack Obama has been fortunate on a couple of fronts: first, in replacing the most loathed president in recent memory, and second, in the relentlessly ham-handed nature of his Republican opponents. As long as the alternative to Obama remains the Limbaugh-Beck-Bachmann black-helicopter crowd, this president will continue to stand tall."



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  2. B_Mister Buildington

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    Probably has something to do with the fact that the economy went to hell on their watch, whether it was their fault or not.

    Also, people really really want to believe that SOMEONE has the answers, and the most comforting person to have those answers would be the man in the white house. We're feeling really insecure in a nation and we want to believe that everything is going to be alright.
     
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    Because it's 'anchored' by Sarah Palin. Do I have to explain everything to you, will?
     
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    nick, she can see Russia from her house!
     
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    I hear Levi told Tyra his favorite meal is caviar and borscht but he wasn't allowed to say so on the campaign trail. Go figure.
     
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    It's simple. When you ignore (or refuse to acknowledge) the holes you drill in your boat, you sink.
     
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    they have palin and steel now as soon as the get a cross dressing midget the transformation will be complete and they will start winning again
     
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    ROFL.
     
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    Well, when you align your party with evangelical neo cons who put their "god" before country you're always going to have these sort of "Republican" problems. Despite the best efforts of dumbing down the population of the USA, they haven't been completely successful. Begin to worry when any presidency begins to haul off people for "treason" or being a danger to the Republic. And when they start shooting protesters in the streets (again) then we are much worse off than we currently are. After all, remember how dangerous the Kent State students were in Ohio (May 4th, 1970)? We just have to avoid any more anointments to the presidency (Bush vs. Gore) by the Supreme Court. And it's time the current War on Terror squad started to once again pay close attention to the scary shitwads in our own country who believe they need to bring the government down. The Timothy McVeighs are still out there.

    Anyone remember slightly more than 8 year ago the boosters for Pat Buchanan who cired real tears with "their new-improved Hitler" didn't make it past the first round of GOP nominations? They are still around, too. They could easily be convinced to become "suicide bombers for Democracy."

    And what short memories everyone seems to have as Arianna Huffington, who was originally the "dahling" of the The National Review and married to Michael (how many millions of dollars does it take to keep a homosexual male in the closet?) Huffington who ran for the House of Representatives in Congress as a neoconservative -- and won? The Huffington's battle cry in those days was to appeal to the ultra religious right and yell for smaller government (yeah, as if THAT will ever happen), and blame the country's problems on welfare mothers. Sound familiar? She is self-described these days in her Huffington Post blog as a "progressive populist", which I correctly read as "I used to be Republican, still am, but won't admit it until the climate is a bit more conducive to my political goals." And that's what has happened to many other "famous" Republicans. They are in hiding, wearing the drag that suits them best, until they can finesse their way back into a political party that even they find distasteful.
     
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    You do know it's against the T&C to cut & paste a lot from 3rd resources, especially when you aren't making it clear enough. Just making sure.
     
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    Ah, and I see it's being refereed by Fred Barbash... a Wash Post "journalist". Enough said. Taking quotes and misleads better than PYM for a signature blast. Here we thought Faux News was the only biased outlet. It's only April too.
     
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    The Republican Party's solution for nearly every problem is a tax cut.

    It's like a mantra.

    I'm surprised they haven't argued that lowering taxes will reduce the abortion rate or something.
     
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    No, but Pelosi did argue that birth control would help stimulate the economy :rolleyes: and tried to put birth control in the stimulus plan before Obama put the kibosh on that.
     
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    Maybe they could use the argument that reducing taxes will give women more money to raise their un-aborted child. :biggrin1:
     
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    It's really simple ... they're sinking because for 30 years, they answered every question about economics by saying that the free market is always right, and if you just leave the free market alone, every one will come out on top eventually.

    They said it so much that they started to think of the free market not as a tool for efficiently distributing goods and services to the most people at the lowest price, but as a sort of religious principle on which they staked their lives.

    Then they were proven spectacularly wrong, in a way that everyone could see and understand. They are like General Woundwort, the evil rabbit in WATERSHIP DOWN, standing in a meadow yelling "You cowards -- dogs aren't dangerous"! as a huge mastiff comes barelling down the hill toward them, foaming at the mouth.
     
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    The initial issue was Iraq; and then the mortgage crisis, rightly or not, sent GOP support into a tailspin.

    Have no fear, WT. The GOP will be a formidable machine again in the very near future.
     
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    Future, yes. Very near? Not so much. And, if Obama makes significant headway economically, not for a good while.
     
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    Unfortunately, that machine will be as reliable as a used Gateway running Microsoft Vista.

    Did someone say Palin in 2012?
    How about Jindal?
    Limbaugh as Secretary of State?

    At the rate the GOP is going, they don't have a prayer. Well, actually they do but nobody of any importance is listening. :rolleyes: :biggrin1:
     
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    The Whigs will be a formidable machine again in the very near future.
     
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