Why is there so much Obsession with Circumcision?

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I just don't get it.

Thread after thread asking seemingly petty questions about circumcision.

While I accept that there are important questions on the subject relating to the reasons why it's done and at what stage in life but most of the threads on the subject here are, in my opinion, ludicrous and totally unnecessary.

I have seen a hell of a lot of dicks in my time, both circumcised and un-circumcised, and I can say with hand on heart, it makes not a jot of difference.

Come on please guys, get over yourselves, it simply doesn't matter.
 

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Are we obsessed? Maybe but frankly men like their penises. So I enjoy comparing and discussing them. A huge part of that discussion is circumcision.
 

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I just don't get it.

I have seen a hell of a lot of dicks in my time, both circumcised and un-circumcised, and I can say with hand on heart, it makes not a jot of difference.

Come on please guys, get over yourselves, it simply doesn't matter.

Well, with all due respect, you're the user and not the owner, which means a different perspective. Your point was about sex, but a guy has to live with his penis 24 hours a day. Yeah, we care about how it works, how it looks, how it feels and how it's respected.

It also seems obvious to point out that you get to keep all your lady parts. There are draconian laws that jealously protect your fundamental right to remain whole. You also live in a country where most boys don't have to undergo circumcision, in contrast to the United States (where this board is based) where newborn circumcision was virtually automatic for guys my age.

But perhaps most relevant to the discussions here, this board is inherently libertarian when it comes to control of our own bodies, if not libertine. We bristle at people telling us that this-sex-act or -that is not acceptable, that this sexual orientation or that is not acceptable, that this bod mod or that is not acceptable. The common thread is choice, personal consent and control over our own bodies -- be it reproductive rights, whom we make love to, or how much of our sexual organs we get to keep.

Personally, I reject the argument that circumcision is completely neutral so it makes no difference if a doctor or mohel cuts off half the skin of your penis or not. And yes, we know scientifically that on average infant circumcision removes half the skin of the penis. It's also common sense.

It's the big picture. A society that tolerates involuntary reshaping of our sexual organs is a society that still has boundary issues.
 

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How would you like to have your clitoris cut off at birth?

I could care less what my partners think of my circumcision status. I lost a hell of a lot of nerves because of circumcision, which is most likely why it takes so long to ejaculate.
 

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If you read my thread I do acknowledge the fact that there are very serious issues surrounding circumcision and I would never seek to belittle those issues.

What I am referring to are the inane threads on the subject, such as 'what feels best, cut or uncut', 'is uncut dirty', 'how long before an uncut penis starts to smell', 'what does it feel like to suck an uncut cock', etc etc.

These, to me, are utterly pointless and detract from the serious issues surrounding the subject. Sex wise and hygiene wise it makes no difference whatsoever, thats my point, i wish people would read my entry rather than just the thread title.
 

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I heartily agree with the part of your premise that seeks to find more commonality and happiness across males of all types rather than differences. It's a valuable message from a woman that she appreciates guys in both camps and considers that 5 cm of skin to be significantly less important than the overall man she's with.

The "reason" there is so much obsession with circumcision has to do with a manufactured, built-in dissent fueled by a large country that has been pushing circumcision for over 75 years as if it's part of the early childhood vaccine suite. As part of the marketing message, there is a promotion from American doctors that circumcision is cleaner and healthier, implying that a circumcised guy is cleaner, healthier and more attractive than his natural counterpart. Couple that with guys' incessant urge to compare, to battle and to win, and you get a continual quest to figure out who's "better". It gets ridiculous when guys resort to extremes and call each other inherently unclean or objectively crippled.

I doubt you'd see this debate if the whole world looked like the UK in the circumcision department. Most guys there are intact, and about one in 8 are circumcised at some point for understandable religious, medical or other personal reasons. But it doesn't... the UK helped export this nasty fad over 100 years ago to all its English-speaking offspring; then, when it was well-entrenched, declared, "Just kidding!" and totally stopped doing it at home. Contrast that with the USA, where many -- possibly most -- women have never encountered a real foreskin in their lives. My European friends are mystified why there is such a raging argument over here about something that seems so trivial.

Oh god, I remember endless questioning at the uni cafeteria breakfast table whenever this subject came up. Guys would badger girls about which they liked better (hoping their side won) and why, and how much better?, and asking to list all the reasons why, and how many of each had the women been with, etc. As a gay man I never said a word in any of these discussions but it opened my eyes to a lot of ignorance and insecurity among guys, especially cut guys. Some girls answered honestly as best they could, but others looked like they'd rather be on an ice shelf in Antarctica than pestered about who was the "winner" in the penis skin department.

I agree with you that some of the questions and opening salvos are downright moronic. Maybe it reflects that there's little sensible left to be said about the subject, so folks have resorted to the picayune, obscure and spiteful.
 

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A silly obsession a handful of people have on this site. I used to be one of the culprits. Had to step back and realize there are more important stuff in life and more interesting stuff on this site.
 

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How would you like to have your clitoris cut off at birth?

I could care less what my partners think of my circumcision status. I lost a hell of a lot of nerves because of circumcision, which is most likely why it takes so long to ejaculate.

Is this normal with circumsized penises?

The reason why I asked is that I watched a video recently of some friends masturbating together and they were all cut. However, they all seems to pay lots of attention to their glans when masturbating, like applying extra pressure.

When I masturbate I don't have to pay that much attention to the glans, but when I do the results are explosive and I come very quick because it's so sensitive.
 

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I just don't get it.

Thread after thread asking seemingly petty questions about circumcision.

While I accept that there are important questions on the subject relating to the reasons why it's done and at what stage in life but most of the threads on the subject here are, in my opinion, ludicrous and totally unnecessary.

I have seen a hell of a lot of dicks in my time, both circumcised and un-circumcised, and I can say with hand on heart, it makes not a jot of difference.

Come on please guys, get over yourselves, it simply doesn't matter.
I think the issue is said owner that did NOT have the choice.
 

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Is this normal with circumsized penises?

The reason why I asked is that I watched a video recently of some friends masturbating together and they were all cut.

I saved about 300 of the Straight College Men videos of guys auditioning by having a wank on the sofa. The difference in technique between the cut and intact guys is honestly jarring. So many of the circumcised guys really struggle and sweat to get off, while only one of the intact guys seemed to have to work extra hard. I find seeing anyone "polishing the knob" with their hand as they wank to be completely cringeworthy. Plus, they really grip and grind that shaft, hence many aggressive American terms for wanking: beat one's meat, choke the chicken, bang the bishop, flog the log, jerk off, jack off (like a jackhammer), wack off, pound it, spank it, etc. It's violent imagery and linguistically revealing. Some of the terms have caught on elsewhere, but they have their origins among those who were cut as infants and therefore physiologically changed the most, especially the glans.
 
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I have seen a hell of a lot of dicks in my time, both circumcised and un-circumcised, and I can say with hand on heart, it makes not a jot of difference.

Come on please guys, get over yourselves, it simply doesn't matter.

Sex wise and hygiene wise it makes no difference whatsoever, thats my point, i wish people would read my entry rather than just the thread title.

Another ignorant female....Let us take a knife to your genitals and then you tell us men that it makes no difference.:wink:
 

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Another ignorant female....Let us take a knife to your genitals and then you tell us men that it makes no difference.:wink:

I sincerely hope that, by the wink at the end of your contribution, that is was 'tongue in cheek'.

If not please can I ask you to read my contributions to this thread again, I am referring to the petty issues raised on the subject which belittle the serious and genuine issues.
 

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I understand and agree...enough, already.

I think that most of the threads you are referring to reflect insecurity.

The real issues, IMO, are ignorance and human rights (when it comes to basic rights, religion and social perceptions are NOT a good excuse). Everything else is personal opinion.

I viewed your profile. You're obviously NOT ignorant, the pics in your albums show that you seem to be enjoying an intact man, assuming it IS you. ;)
 
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Another ignorant female....Let us take a knife to your genitals and then you tell us men that it makes no difference.:wink:

I just have to say that female circumcision is highly illegal and many countries are against it. If you haven't heard about it sure google it. It ain't anything pretty I can tell...which makes me also wonder if people are so against female circumcision why not male?

But then again I don't really care is the guy cut or uncut. Let people be cut if they want to and those who don't let them be the way they're :)

I just let people be like they're talking about the whole person not just their genitals. :)