Why the american people are so obsessed with foreskin?

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  1. _Alexxx_

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    It seems as foreskin is a very important thing for americans while here in Europe it's a very simple issue (if you suffer phimosis, you get it cut, if not you leave it)

    I mention it because I constantly read here people being for and against being cut, and even restoration(!). Or comments like 'enjoy your foreskin'. And at the same time other people ignore that a penis like the one in the link has a serious phimosis problem and needs surgery.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/Phimosis.jpg/250px-Phimosis.jpg

    Even in movies and tv series you can see guys affraid of being rejected because they are uncut and things like that.

    Any explanation? I know it's a tradition amongst jews, but besides that I can't understand it. I would never let a surgeon touch my penis unless I had a problem with it, neither to cut nor to restore.
     
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    Cause they cut it off when we're like one day old for no reason at all.

    By the way, the recommended treatment for phimosis is simple stretching - more masturbation helps too.

    Yeah, don't ever let a surgeon near your family jewels - I mean all three. They're a matched set, know what I mean? It's usually not a problem for you over there, but I know a 25 year old guy in Barcelona right now who is completely distraught over what some hack did to his penis when he had phimosis.
     
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    First off, phimosis does not mean a guy needs to be circumsized. Dorsal slits are a way of alleviating phimosis while allowing a guy to retain an integral part of his penis. Also, some guys function just fine with phimosis. For most guys, it's all in the head.

    Circumcision in the US is based on the mad blatherings of snake oil salesmen of the 1800s. There is not and never has been a medical justification for routine infant circumcision. However, these quacks claimed that circumcision would cure masturbation and a whole bunch of other "ills" that supposedly affected Americans.

    Unfortunately, their false claims were accepted by the medical community as a means of making money. WWII saw a huge increase in RIC mainly because of price and wage controls. The more surgery a doctor performs, the more money he's going to make.

    Being intact, you simply don't appreciate what you have. Having been literally mutilated by the doctor who circumcised me, I am simply unable to understand why people think it's not a big deal. For me it ruined my sex life.
     
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    This is the perfect answer:

    Personally I much prefer uncut guys because it was something I never saw growing up. I've seen French porn that lauds the circumcisions of their Arab models as proof of a greater virility. We always are fascinated by what we don't have, and many fetishize the exotic.
     
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    In the UK no-one is cut unless they are from a religious group that believes in it - And they were the people who were mocked at school! Strange how worlds are soo similar yet different
     
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    That used to be the situation here in the UK. If you had a problem with foreskin - get it cut off! Over here though you are in a minority (as cuteguy said) if you are circumcised and I gather now that doctors are aware you don't have to have surgery because you can stretch the skin.

    I used to wish I was cut but now I appreciate having a foreskin. Let's face it, it's as nature intended.

    I really do hope more people in the States realize they have been conned all these years. So much money is made on new borns in the USA in the medical field/industry.

    I also think you should enjoy your cock whether it's cut or not. I would love to know what it feels like to be cut and wonder if it's the same feeling as when I just pull back the skin, although I can't seem to keep it there, even my PA ring can't stop it!
     
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    I guess for cleanliness being cut would be good? But I like the sensation when you hold your cock at the top where the skin pushes and you can feel it... Yeah... ahem
     
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    There's also the somewhat bizarre idea that a boys penis should look like his father's. .
     
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    There is no simple explanation. The North American experience was imported from Germany in the late 19th C - Commercial medicine had been formulated in the German speaking states where an emerging middle class had money to spend on elective surgery. Tonsilectomies and circumcisions are fairly easy straightforward procedures and very lucrative.
    German doctors took the trade to the USA. Of those fourth and fifth generation Americans that are cut 98% of their great grandfathers were not. In other words it is a recently acquired cultural practice. I do not include the tribal peoples of Africa or the Middle East who have practiced both male and female genital mutilation as a religious sacrifice and/or right of passage.

    I believe certain breeds of dogs have their tails "docked" and I think there is analogy here. In short the Americans penchant for circumcising their newly born males is a status symbol akin to fashion. Psychologically there is something deeply suspicious about a mother and father who actually think about having their infant's genitalia fiddled with. Ethical surgeons from the best medical schhols and hospitals now rarely perform this operation.

    I am cut, for no reason, but my brothers and other males in my extended family are not. I was circumcised by a mad army doctor without parental permission or for any medical reason at a military hospital. The doctor was dismissed the service when it came to light he had actually mutilated several babies by badly circumcising them. Fortunately I was lucky. true mine does look neater than my brothers when we were kids but be assured it performs no better. Birth traumas having long lasting psychological effects must also suggest circumcision does too. But it is a choice. But not a choice parents should make.

    To all those that need to defend a comparatively recent cultural practice then you are free to do so but there is no medical ecidence to support it. Continue to cut your infants (the law says you can) but what will be the consequences when a son of 20 or so asks at a family gathering why you mutilated his penis. After all I am sure you are horrified that Somali and Sudanese parents infibulate their female children's vaginas and incise their labia - the equivalent of male circumcision but often lethal.
     
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    You are right Patrick. My penis and my brothers looked just like our fathers did. He didn't believe in sending his sons to the knife and I for one am glad. lol

     
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    It's good to hear some Americans thinking for themselves and not conforming to a "Nanny State".

    It's commical for us in the UK to hear how (some) Americans conform to asthetics and believe all what's been told to them.

    And regarding "wanting his son's penis to look like his"? .....How sad!
     
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    There are too many misguided individual comments here for me to quote each one, but to have my five penny worth……

    First of all I endorse the comments of those who say there are rarelly situations where circumcision is necessary, it’s only in the extreme and even those ought to have a second opinion!

    Restoration does not necessarily mean surgery, it takes time but the skin can be stretched to form a foreskin. Although it sounds uncomfortable, it is quite painless and is the safest way. Also, original foreskins are enriched with nerve endings that make it one of the most sensitive parts of the body, along with fingertips and lips, neither of which are cut of at birth, and while circumcised guys can still enjoy sex it is nonetheless degraded sex and restoring will help to redress that. To compensate for the loss of the foreskin, the glance grows extra layers of skin for protection, burying the surface nerve endings deeper and masks the sensations normally felt. When the glance is recovered the extra skin disappears and the status quo is restored, at least for the glance. Interestingly, the redundant appendix that can give rise to problems, sometimes life threatening is never removed at birth, not unless you’re born with appendicitis that is!

    Fort those that think a foreskin is unhygienic, why do you think you’re born with one? It’s for protection. The foreskin has a way of cleaning itself, the same as a woman’s vagina does, and do we circumcise women? Of course, extra consideration can be given to the foreskin in the bath or shower if sex is anticipated - no harm there, but a daily regime of scrubbing can be detrimental, it’s not the teeth!

    Another reason for circumcision being so popular among the American medical fraternity is that the severed skins are sold on to cosmetic company’s for use in their products. It’s ironic to think that a straight guy smearing his lips with a woman’s lipstick while kissing her, is in effect giving some poor kid a blow job!

    As for guys in the UK being cut only on religious ground, bolloks! I know plenty of guys, me included, who have been cut through pressure from the medical profession. It was very popular during and just after the war with working class parents who were in ore of professional people – you didn’t argue. As far as I’m aware, my parents only ever went to church for weddings and funerals, like I’ve never even been christened. Damn, does that mean I’ll go to hell when I die?!!
     
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    There are a small group of people on these boards that pounce at every opportunity to discuss the topic in order to bring attention to their agenda. That group includes, not surprisingly, the first two posters to respond to this thread. Whenever there is a thread that they can somehow twist into being about foreskin, circumcision, or foreskin restoration, they'll jump on that. Whenever more than a couple weeks passes without such a topic, then they create one.

    Please don't assume that all Americans are obsessed with the topic, though. It is really just a tiny vocal minority on these boards. That's why you see it over and over again on these boards. That, and the topic is penis-related...
     
  14. Drifterwood

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    Some are also pro circ in a bizarrely (imo) fanatical way.

    They call others anti circ - I see it rather as being pro as you are born. They are pro modification for an array of strange and tortured reasons.
     
  15. _Alexxx_

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    For me it's so simple that it shouldn't lead to discussion.

    If you can pull foreskin easily to free your head and even hard there is no tightness at any point, you are ok and should leave it like that

    If not, you have a problem and most probably you will need surgery
     
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    Bloody hell, how many times - just because you're uncut DOESN'T mean your dick is less clean than anyone who is cut!!

    G:cool:
     
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    Huh? What, you don't think skin can stretch? And even if the skin is tight it doesn't mean you need surgery..

    G:cool:
     
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    I don't understand why we don't leave it up to the guy to decide; I would have liked to have made the choice of whether or not to be cut, not to have it made for me at birth.
     
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    I was circumcised when i was 18yrs old through my own wishes and i am glad i did. And its true (at least for me) that it did help resolve some smegma issues , and guess what i dont think it affected my sex life, infact it enhanced it. Once again this is just my opinion .
     
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    A guy I know had a circumcision when he was about 9 years old, he had some kind of disease. Other than medical reasons, I don't see why one should be cut. It did say in the bible that you must offer flesh to get to heaven (And I read that the "flesh" is foreskin), and I know Jews and most Muslims do it.
     
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