Why the republican party doesnt appeal to people...

[deleted213967]

I am not sure "why the Republican party doesnt [sic] appeal to people", but it is abundantly clear that the Democratic appeals to people even less.

 

[StormfrontFL]

I am not sure "why the Republican party doesnt [sic] appeal to people", but it is abundantly clear that the Democratic appeals to people even less.

Now hear this....30% of the electorate has spoken.:tongue:


In what world is 30% more than 100%?

 

[deleted213967]

Now hear this....30% of the electorate has spoken.:tongue:


In what world is 30% more than 100%?

Your pathetic spin on the utter humiliation of the liberal agenda is getting old.

Midterm elections are historically low-turnout events. Those who don't take the easy steps to vote don't count and should not count. That's not how democracy works.

Desperate leftists are swift to remind us that only 1 in 4 voters put Reagan in power...yet he won 2 terms and to this day remains one of the most popular presidents.

The Democratic party democratically lost and lost very big, especially in the down tickets.

Nearly 70% of the state legislatures are now controlled by the GOP, as are 2 / 3 of the governor positions. The US House is impregnable and

 

[StormfrontFL]

Your pathetic spin on the utter humiliation of the liberal agenda is getting old.

Midterm elections are historically low-turnout events. Those who don't take the easy steps to vote don't count and should not count. That's not how democracy works.

Desperate leftists are swift to remind us that only 1 in 4 voters put Reagan in power...yet he won 2 terms and to this day remains one of the most popular presidents.

The Democratic party democratically lost and lost very big, especially in the down tickets.

Nearly 70% of the state legislatures are now controlled by the GOP, as are 2 / 3 of the governor positions. The US House is impregnable and

And yet when a larger number do turn out to vote in Presidential elections you just disregard the turnout and the numbers. Explain again how the GOP won in 2012 despite receiving fewer votes:tongue:

 

[deleted213967]

And yet when a larger number do turn out to vote in Presidential elections you just disregard the turnout and the numbers. Explain again how the GOP won in 2012 despite receiving fewer votes:tongue:

My recommendation is for you to write an angry letter to Hillary and ask her not to apologize for her "businesses don't create jobs" remark and instead to double down on such remarks.

I agree with you and your co-religionists that the slate of Democratic candidates is just not leftist enough.

Liberals should veer far to the left of Cherokee Princess Elizabeth Warren. Look at Vermont Bernie Sanders as a model.

I also recommend agitating for gun confiscation and intensifying the War On Women and the War On Voting rhetoric.

 

[Popyuu]

My recommendation is for you to write an angry letter to Hillary and ask her not to apologize for her "businesses don't create jobs" remark and instead to double down on such remarks.

I agree with you and your co-religionists that the slate of Democratic candidates is just not leftist enough.

Liberals should veer far to the left of Cherokee Princess Elizabeth Warren. Look at Vermont Bernie Sanders as a model.

I also recommend agitating for gun confiscation and intensifying the War On Women and the War On Voting rhetoric.

Oh for the love of buttons. Do you honestly think businessesessess create jobs? Really? (facepalm) Ok whatever, good luck with being a republican.

 

[StormfrontFL]

My recommendation is for you to write an angry letter to Hillary and ask her not to apologize for her "businesses don't create jobs" remark and instead to double down on such remarks.

I agree with you and your co-religionists that the slate of Democratic candidates is just not leftist enough.

Liberals should veer far to the left of Cherokee Princess Elizabeth Warren. Look at Vermont Bernie Sanders as a model.

I also recommend agitating for gun confiscation and intensifying the War On Women and the War On Voting rhetoric.

In other words be the liberal versions of you and the other Tea Party members. Got it.

I'll be sure to let the Cherokee princess know that a 99% gay Republican said hi:tongue:

 

[YankeeJoe]

Now hear this....30% of the electorate has spoken.:tongue:


In what world is 30% more than 100%?

What does that have to do with anything? When do 100% of the electorate come out to vote? Bill Clinton won two terms without a majority. He still became president.
Look, I know you're hurting. But they held an election and everyone was aware of when and where the voting was to take place. Your side didn't come out. For whatever reason--apathy most likely--and despite all the typically hysterical Democrat race --baiting, your side stayed home. And pretty much everyone knew that the GOP was going to retake the Senate-but no one knew by how many seats --and they STILL stayed home. They didn't even bother to get dressed and go out to vote.
Now, no one with half-a-brain is saying that the country suddenly became more conservative overnight;and the Republicans are going to have to work to get the voters trust--but the results tell us that the majority of voters (like in every election, it's the majority of VOTERS who decide) were not satisfied with the direction the country is going and decided that--at least this time around, that the Republican Party appealed to them. That's all it means, but throwing around the "30% of the electorate"bloody shirt as if to de-legitimize the voters choice? That's just being a loser.

 

[YankeeJoe]

Oh for the love of buttons. Do you honestly think businessesessess create jobs? Really? (facepalm) Ok whatever, good luck with being a republican.

Okay, who--or what-- creates jobs?

 

[YankeeJoe]

And yet when a larger number do turn out to vote in Presidential elections you just disregard the turnout and the numbers. Explain again how the GOP won in 2012 despite receiving fewer votes:tongue:

In 2012, Mitt Romney lost in large part because about 4 million people who voted for John McCain four years earlier stayed home. Why they stayed home has been a point of discussion ever since, but they didn't come out for Romney--who many pollsters predicted would win based on those 2008 GOP voting models. So he lost. Obama got more votes and he won. No one is dis-regarding the turnout in 2012.

 

[StormfrontFL]

What does that have to do with anything? When do 100% of the electorate come out to vote? Bill Clinton won two terms without a majority. He still became president.
Look, I know you're hurting. But they held an election and everyone was aware of when and where the voting was to take place. Your side didn't come out. For whatever reason--apathy most likely--and despite all the typically hysterical Democrat race --baiting, your side stayed home. And pretty much everyone knew that the GOP was going to retake the Senate-but no one knew by how many seats --and they STILL stayed home. They didn't even bother to get dressed and go out to vote.
Now, no one with half-a-brain is saying that the country suddenly became more conservative overnight;and the Republicans are going to have to work to get the voters trust--but the results tell us that the majority of voters (like in every election, it's the majority of VOTERS who decide) were not satisfied with the direction the country is going and decided that--at least this time around, that the Republican Party appealed to them. That's all it means, but throwing around the "30% of the electorate"bloody shirt as if to de-legitimize the voters choice? That's just being a loser.

Look around and you'll see many who feel that the conservative way is the way of the future according to Americans. When the majority of voters denied the GOP in 2008 and 2012 did you feel the same way? Did GOP members just suck it up? As I said before(not that you've ever given any indication that you actually read this forum or any news) the GOP will no longer have the Senate to hide behind. Any lck of movement will be solely on them.

I hope you remember your post come 2016 when, or if, the GOP gets it's collective butt handed to them.

 

[StormfrontFL]

Okay, who--or what-- creates jobs?

Demand from consumers(aka people) creates jobs. Would a business create more jobs if the demand for their product wasn't there? Would a business that let's say makes $60K a week utilizing 6 employees expand their staff to 10 employees if their sales remained the same? Let's say that demand increased to where those 6 could no longer meet those needs, would a business then expand it's payroll?

 

[StormfrontFL]

In 2012, Mitt Romney lost in large part because about 4 million people who voted for John McCain four years earlier stayed home. Why they stayed home has been a point of discussion ever since, but they didn't come out for Romney--who many pollsters predicted would win based on those 2008 GOP voting models. So he lost. Obama got more votes and he won. No one is dis-regarding the turnout in 2012.

You really don't read, do you?

So according to you the GOP is filled with sore losers who bitched because 4 million chose not to vote.According to you they should have just sucked it up.

 

[vince]

Oh yes, it's the end of American liberalism and the Democratic party. The electorate has spoken and the Democrats have lost their appeal and must learn a lesson from this disaster.

Get a grip. It was an entirely predictable midterm election.

There is an article in The Atlantic currently and the writer posits that the Democrats ran like they were afraid to lose. Too timid and too afraid to trumpet the achievements since 2009 and that if Mrs. Clinton doesn't get passionate and start kicking some butt on the stump, she could blow it again.

Someone is bound to say something about the "achievements". I think the Dems should have been bragging about that shitty excuse for a healthcare bill they managed to pass. The Dow Jones is over 17000. Unemployment is way down from 2009. Today I read that new claims for unemployment benefits are at the lowest level since 2000. Consumer sentiment is at a 7 year high. The auto industry is going full steam and GM has gone from bankrupt to record profits and paid back the loans. Gasoline is under $3.00.

They should have been full blown comparing and contrasting and spinning where the economy was in 2008 with where is now and asking the famous question, "are you better off now than you were six years ago?". Bragging that it's taken six years to undo the damage done by the previous Republican administration. Instead, they dodge questions about whether or not they voted for Obama. What kind of a pussy way to run a political campaign was that? If I lived in Kentucky I'd would voted for the Turtle just because that candidate was so spineless and disloyal.

 

[Popyuu]

Oh yes, it's the end of American liberalism and the Democratic party. The electorate has spoken and the Democrats have lost their appeal and must learn a lesson from this disaster.

Get a grip. It was an entirely predictable midterm election.

There is an article in The Atlantic currently and the writer posits that the Democrats ran like they were afraid to lose. Too timid and too afraid to trumpet the achievements since 2009 and that if Mrs. Clinton doesn't get passionate and start kicking some butt on the stump, she could blow it again.

Someone is bound to say something about the "achievements". I think the Dems should have been bragging about that shitty excuse for a healthcare bill they managed to pass. The Dow Jones is over 17000. Unemployment is way down from 2009. Today I read that new claims for unemployment benefits are at the lowest level since 2000. Consumer sentiment is at a 7 year high. The auto industry is going full steam and GM has gone from bankrupt to record profits and paid back the loans. Gasoline is under $3.00.

They should have been full blown comparing and contrasting and spinning where the economy was in 2008 with where is now and asking the famous question, "are you better off now than you were six years ago?". Bragging that it's taken six years to undo the damage done by the previous Republican administration. Instead, they dodge questions about whether or not they voted for Obama. What kind of a pussy way to run a political campaign was that? If I lived in Kentucky I'd would voted for the Turtle just because that candidate was so spineless and disloyal.

Yes it was predictable and no it isn't the end of the democrats in any way shape or form but it is the ending of a few things.

Ask yourself this. Why? Why did the democrats pretty much leave the president to fight alone? Why didn't he get the full backing of others? Why weren't people applauding his accomplishments? Why was all of this allowed to happen?

Public opinion thats how. Republicans have been on constant attack mode, attacking the president and democrats on every single thing at every point for every reason, stonewalling every effort and manipulating facts figures and basically doing everything they can at any cost. Even at times making shit up that could have been exposed had they not completely attacked the very people calling bullshit on what they're doing. The general public started believing it then turned around and started attacking the president and the people trying to slow the shit down to begin with.

Sounds familiar? Cause it should.

 

[YankeeJoe]

Oh yes, it's the end of American liberalism and the Democratic party. The electorate has spoken and the Democrats have lost their appeal and must learn a lesson from this disaster.

Get a grip. It was an entirely predictable midterm election.

There is an article in The Atlantic currently and the writer posits that the Democrats ran like they were afraid to lose. Too timid and too afraid to trumpet the achievements since 2009 and that if Mrs. Clinton doesn't get passionate and start kicking some butt on the stump, she could blow it again.

Someone is bound to say something about the "achievements". I think the Dems should have been bragging about that shitty excuse for a healthcare bill they managed to pass. The Dow Jones is over 17000. Unemployment is way down from 2009. Today I read that new claims for unemployment benefits are at the lowest level since 2000. Consumer sentiment is at a 7 year high. The auto industry is going full steam and GM has gone from bankrupt to record profits and paid back the loans. Gasoline is under $3.00.

They should have been full blown comparing and contrasting and spinning where the economy was in 2008 with where is now and asking the famous question, "are you better off now than you were six years ago?". Bragging that it's taken six years to undo the damage done by the previous Republican administration. Instead, they dodge questions about whether or not they voted for Obama. What kind of a pussy way to run a political campaign was that? If I lived in Kentucky I'd would voted for the Turtle just because that candidate was so spineless and disloyal.

Some of you guys are really beyond redemption. Venal, perhaps, but most of the political class is anything but stupid--when it comes to politics, that is.
When it comes to actually governing, some are way over their head--but most politicians know politics, and there was a reason why they all ran away from Obama, and wherever he campaigned--the candidate lost.
And who keeps telling you the economy is much improved from 2008? If it really was, why did the Republicans win so many seats in the Senate, increase their lead in the House, and win so many State Houses? Or, why did so many voters sit out? If they were so happy, they should have came out and voted for the Democrats to show their support and appreciation.
Yes, the economy was in the toilet in 2008. And it still is and pretending it would have been even worse if not for the Obama magic, is unprovable.

 

[YankeeJoe]

Look around and you'll see many who feel that the conservative way is the way of the future according to Americans. When the majority of voters denied the GOP in 2008 and 2012 did you feel the same way? Did GOP members just suck it up? As I said before(not that you've ever given any indication that you actually read this forum or any news) the GOP will no longer have the Senate to hide behind. Any lck of movement will be solely on them.

I hope you remember your post come 2016 when, or if, the GOP gets it's collective butt handed to them.

I will and they may lose whatever gains they made.
But in 2012, I definitely railed against the Republicans who didn't bother to vote.
That was a very winnable election--and they blew it.

 

[Popyuu]

Some of you guys are really beyond redemption. Venal, perhaps, but most of the political class is anything but stupid--when it comes to politics, that is.
When it comes to actually governing, some are way over their head--but most politicians know politics, and there was a reason why they all ran away from Obama, and wherever he campaigned--the candidate lost.
And who keeps telling you the economy is much improved from 2008? If it really was, why did the Republicans win so many seats in the Senate, increase their lead in the House, and win so many State Houses? Or, why did so many voters sit out? If they were so happy, they should have came out and voted for the Democrats to show their support and appreciation.
Yes, the economy was in the toilet in 2008. And it still is and pretending it would have been even worse if not for the Obama magic, is unprovable.

Read the above over a couple times vince, just so you can fully understand what happened.

 

[deleted15807]

Okay, who--or what-- creates jobs?

Did you skip Economics 101 or flunk? It appears you did one of the two.

 

[vince]

Yes it was predictable and no it isn't the end of the democrats in any way shape or form but it is the ending of a few things.

Ask yourself this. Why? Why did the democrats pretty much leave the president to fight alone? Why didn't he get the full backing of others? Why weren't people applauding his accomplishments? Why was all of this allowed to happen?

As I just explained, this year the Democratic party campaigned like pussies. They didn't get out and tout and spin their accomplishments. They campaigned as if they were going to lose. They were on the defensive and they have been letting the radical right and their appessers (mainstream Republicans), define the agenda.

Public opinion that's how. Republicans have been on constant attack mode, attacking the president and democrats on every single thing at every point for every reason, stonewalling every effort and manipulating facts figures and basically doing everything they can at any cost. Even at times making shit up that could have been exposed had they not completely attacked the very people calling bullshit on what they're doing. The general public started believing it then turned around and started attacking the president and the people trying to slow the shit down to begin with.

Sounds familiar? Cause it should.

You're right, but that is politics. So don't cry about it. That is how the game is played and if the Democrats are going to bounce back from these recent mid-terms, they have to be the attackers and do what it takes to win. Candidates running from their record (it's not a bad record comparatively) and pretending they didn't support their leader in the past is weak and doesn't work. It didn't work for the Republicans in 2008 (although who could blame them), and it won't work to try and run from Obama now. You don't win over American public opinion by hiding in the bushes.

If there is some bad shit in the record, just pretend it never happened, blame someone else and carry on. It's working for the Republicans.

Being perceived as weak in politics is fatal and that's how the Democrats have looked all year. They need to retire Harry Reid too.