Why the republican party doesnt appeal to people...

[deleted15807]

At the risk of stereotyping, Asians have a greater amount of faith in the government. They have a strong belief in the social contract, where the state will take care of you if you take care of the state (obeying laws and paying taxes). This system works well in Asian countries, especially East Asia (from Taiwan to Korea), which are happy and peaceful.

Republican leaders love to imply that America is broken and can be made great again. If America is indeed broken, maybe it's best to look for new solutions rather than going back to the old ways. Exploring economic and legal models of Asian countries may be a good place to start.

If you go all the way back to Reagan it is the same marketing slogan (It's morning in america again). American is broken and we can fix it. To today and Donald Trump ( I can make America great again ). They pine for some era that never existed at least not for everyone. But they are tone deaf to that fact. I guess this is how you lead sheep to slaughter.

They've created a narrative that historically doesn't seem to exist where the country bowed to the rich and all their demands. And in exchange we're supposed to be given jobs, jobs with zero protection and zero raises. They simply make shit up and when called on it just label the accuser 'the liberal media' and boom discussion shut down. Apparently that's what pissed them off with the latest debate when the moderators didn't let them bullshit their way as they do on Fox.

Obama's response was spot on:

Obama Mocks Candidates

 

[933295]

If you go all the way back to Reagan it is the same marketing slogan (It's morning in america again). American is broken and we can fix it. To today and Donald Trump ( I can make America great again ). They pine for some era that never existed at least not for everyone. But they are tone deaf to that fact. I guess this is how you lead sheep to slaughter.

They've created a narrative that historically doesn't seem to exist where the country bowed to the rich and all their demands. And in exchange we're supposed to be given jobs, jobs with zero protection and zero raises. They simply make shit up and when called on it just label the accuser 'the liberal media' and boom discussion shut down. Apparently that's what pissed them off with the latest debate when the moderators didn't let them bullshit their way as they do on Fox.

Obama's response was spot on:

Obama Mocks Candidates

This is even more true in the era of tech. Tech workers care little for the communities they live in because their loyalty is to themselves and their own careers. And if the their job gets moved to India or China, they either go or get another one. The idea of globalization really means creating another work sector. Not middle class, working class or upper class, but instead "tech class.

 

[Boobalaa]

Anthropologists say we've already been in the "Anthropocene" geologic epoch, for awhile now
"Tech class", a "Technocracy, if you will..
Which ties in with the senseless phony immigration impasse in the repubicrats parties..speaking of work sectors..and also the minimum wage/living wage issue..
But I digress, back to the tech class; which has a pecking order if it's own. The industrial complex encourages exploitation of the immigration H1-B visa programs; pulling "code monkies" into the work sector at reduced wages, to increase profits and pushing them out again when profits fall.

 

[rbkwp]

smiling smirking almost laughing
at Obamas interview wehere he state
'how can Truimp get rid of 12 million American immigrants
aspart frtom tyhe cost, placing them in detention camps,
most importantly thats not who we are as Americans

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pres...mmigration-plan-unrealistic/story?id=35135602

 

[temptotalk]

Ex-CIA director says Bush White House ignored 9/11 warnings to avoid ‘paper trail’ of responsibility
The CIA gathered all the evidence it had – training camps closing, terrorists going silent as though in hiding, more threats — and on July 10, for the first time in his seven years at the job, Tenet phoned the White House and insisted on an emergency meeting to brief Condoleezza Rice, at the time Bush’s National Security Adviser, on the magnitude of the terrorist threat they were facing.

‘The Attacks Will Be Spectacular’

“What happened?” I ask Cofer Black. “Yeah. What did happen?” he replies. “To me it remains incomprehensible still. I mean, how is it that you could warn senior people so many times and nothing actually happened? It’s kind of like The Twilight Zone.”

 

[bigbull29]

If you go all the way back to Reagan it is the same marketing slogan (It's morning in america again). American is broken and we can fix it. To today and Donald Trump ( I can make America great again ). They pine for some era that never existed at least not for everyone. But they are tone deaf to that fact. I guess this is how you lead sheep to slaughter.

They've created a narrative that historically doesn't seem to exist where the country bowed to the rich and all their demands. And in exchange we're supposed to be given jobs, jobs with zero protection and zero raises. They simply make shit up and when called on it just label the accuser 'the liberal media' and boom discussion shut down. Apparently that's what pissed them off with the latest debate when the moderators didn't let them bullshit their way as they do on Fox.

Obama's response was spot on:

Obama Mocks Candidates

I can't even believe the anti-poor and anti-gay rhetoric from their ignorant mouths. How can this be tolerated by so many sheeple? Nauseating and heart-breaking.

Republicans are all patriotic and the biggest supporters of American-made products, but still adore and defend Wal*Mart at every corner, even though most of the products sold in their stores are made in China. I suppose you can't more pro-American than that.

 

[Boobalaa]

Ex-CIA director says Bush White House ignored 9/11 warnings to avoid ‘paper trail’ of responsibility
The CIA gathered all the evidence it had – training camps closing, terrorists going silent as though in hiding, more threats — and on July 10, for the first time in his seven years at the job, Tenet phoned the White House and insisted on an emergency meeting to brief Condoleezza Rice, at the time Bush’s National Security Adviser, on the magnitude of the terrorist threat they were facing.

‘The Attacks Will Be Spectacular’

“What happened?” I ask Cofer Black. “Yeah. What did happen?” he replies. “To me it remains incomprehensible still. I mean, how is it that you could warn senior people so many times and nothing actually happened? It’s kind of like The Twilight Zone.”

Thanks for this..You beat me to it..love this kind of CIA stuff..although, I'm one of those "false flag" people. I've been reading "Brothers";The Hidden History of the Kennedy Years", by David Talbot as a run up to his latest "Devil's Chessboard" about the Dulles CIA. Talbot mentions "Operation Northwood" only briefly, but long enough to say it was an idea drafted by the JCOS out of the Pentagon. General Lemnitzer to be precise.
So, maybe one reason the CIA people interviewed seemed so flabbergasted at Bush & Co. Was because, they just didn't know, what maybe other people knew.
The turf wars between the Defense and Intelligence sectors rage on to this very day. The article illustrates this; i.e; ask a CIA guy and a military guy the same question, one talks, the other doesn't

 

[deleted15807]

Republicans are all patriotic and the biggest supporters of American-made products, but still adore and defend Wal*Mart at every corner, even though most of the products sold in their stores are made in China. I suppose you can't more pro-American than that.

Correction they are supportive of American-made billionaires and Wall Street. And trickle-down economics which remains as the first Bush called it 'voodoo economics'. But the voting public still doesn't get it.

This is even more true in the era of tech. Tech workers care little for the communities they live in because their loyalty is to themselves and their own careers. And if the their job gets moved to India or China, they either go or get another one. The idea of globalization really means creating another work sector. Not middle class, working class or upper class, but instead "tech class.

I will have to disagree. As a member of the tech class I can tell you the distress and trauma outsourcing has brought to communities and families. And the complete emasculation of digging your own grave when forced to train your replacements from lands far away but whose wages and benefits are 90% less. Some did get other jobs, some switched careers and some retired. It's not the land of milk and honey. And if you are an older tech worker expect the road to be very very difficult as your skills are now 'sunset skills' unless somehow you've managed to 'stay young' by constantly switching specialties.

 

[temptotalk]

Thanks for this..You beat me to it..love this kind of CIA stuff..although, I'm one of those "false flag" people. I've been reading "Brothers";The Hidden History of the Kennedy Years", by David Talbot as a run up to his latest "Devil's Chessboard" about the Dulles CIA. Talbot mentions "Operation Northwood" only briefly, but long enough to say it was an idea drafted by the JCOS out of the Pentagon. General Lemnitzer to be precise.
So, maybe one reason the CIA people interviewed seemed so flabbergasted at Bush & Co. Was because, they just didn't know, what maybe other people knew.
The turf wars between the Defense and Intelligence sectors rage on to this very day. The article illustrates this; i.e; ask a CIA guy and a military guy the same question, one talks, the other doesn't

Haven't read it but given the last few months all this should get some time in the spot light.

 

[933295]

Correction they are supportive of American-made billionaires and Wall Street. And trickle-down economics which remains as the first Bush called it 'voodoo economics'. But the voting public still doesn't get it.



I will have to disagree. As a member of the tech class I can tell you the distress and trauma outsourcing has brought to communities and families. And the complete emasculation of digging your own grave when forced to train your replacements from lands far away but whose wages and benefits are 90% less. Some did get other jobs, some switched careers and some retired. It's not the land of milk and honey. And if you are an older tech worker expect the road to be very very difficult as your skills are now 'sunset skills' unless somehow you've managed to 'stay young' by constantly switching specialties.

Sargon

I live in California and the newly-hired techies make starting salaries of $125,000.00 a year and are pricing most other people out of the housing market. It's obscene to me. They have no moral foundations at all. Maybe they are "monkey coders" but their presence and that of their overlords is one of the reasons there is so much income inequality in my region of the country. Add to this the support from corrupt politicians who want the techies to spend money in their areas without realizing that most of them get meals and perks that keep them separated from the rest of the community.

 

[deleted15807]

Sargon

I live in California and the newly-hired techies make starting salaries of $125,000.00 a year and are pricing most other people out of the housing market. It's obscene to me. They have no moral foundations at all. Maybe they are "monkey coders" but their presence and that of their overlords is one of the reasons there is so much income inequality in my region of the country. Add to this the support from corrupt politicians who want the techies to spend money in their areas without realizing that most of them get meals and perks that keep them separated from the rest of the community.

Sorry but $125,000 a year ain't jack shit in this new Gilded Age we live in.

Obviously due to your local environment you've got an axe to grind against "techies". So grind away. But they're poor compared to the real money. And don't blame politicians for your plight blame the people who hire them.

 

[Boobalaa]

@sargon20 ; Those in City Government, politicians, the legislators, the ones who decide about stuff like property taxes and rent controls ARE responsible . There is another thread around here someplace dealing with Gentrification. Another residual effect is transportation, in the guises of Uber and Lyft, which are harming the Taxi Cab industry, and company provided buses, even though public mass transit is available. Essentially two separate Transportation Systems.

 

[deleted15807]

@sargon20 ; Those in City Government, politicians, the legislators, the ones who decide about stuff like property taxes and rent controls ARE responsible . There is another thread around here someplace dealing with Gentrification. Another residual effect is transportation, in the guises of Uber and Lyft, which are harming the Taxi Cab industry, and company provided buses, even though public mass transit is available. Essentially two separate Transportation Systems.

Might I stress the people are responsible for the government they have. Politicians and legislators just didn't seize power the voters gave them the office. Direct your complaints to the people.

I have little sympathy for the taxicab industry. Before Uber and Lyft they were unresponsive to customer complaints and/or embracing future technologies. Drivers where I live routinely pick and choose who they pick up and where they take them. And sometimes when ordered in advance simply didn't show up. Competition is a good thing.

 

[Jjz1109]

If you go all the way back to Reagan it is the same marketing slogan (It's morning in america again). American is broken and we can fix it. To today and Donald Trump ( I can make America great again ). They pine for some era that never existed at least not for everyone. But they are tone deaf to that fact. I guess this is how you lead sheep to slaughter.

They've created a narrative that historically doesn't seem to exist where the country bowed to the rich and all their demands. And in exchange we're supposed to be given jobs, jobs with zero protection and zero raises. They simply make shit up and when called on it just label the accuser 'the liberal media' and boom discussion shut down. Apparently that's what pissed them off with the latest debate when the moderators didn't let them bullshit their way as they do on Fox.

Obama's response was spot on:

Obama Mocks Candidates

Yes, things certainly have gotten better under the obama reign. He's quite good at the rhetoric, a good quip, and deflecting issues, rather than facing them head on. Never in my life have I seen and felt such a period of uncertainty about our country, and our world. The current environment we are living in is largely due to his extreme lack of experience and direction on the foreign front. The world lives in feat of terrorists. Closer to home, we have a major breakdown in race relations in this country not seen in decades. We have sharp increases in random acts of violence by crazed youths across our college campuses. This country is fucked by the lack of a true leader. I fear for us more now than ever before.

 

[Boobalaa]

Yes, things certainly have gotten better under the obama reign. He's quite good at the rhetoric, a good quip, and deflecting issues, rather than facing them head on. Never in my life have I seen and felt such a period of uncertainty about our country, and our world. The current environment we are living in is largely due to his extreme lack of experience and direction on the foreign front. The world lives in feat of terrorists. Closer to home, we have a major breakdown in race relations in this country not seen in decades. We have sharp increases in random acts of violence by crazed youths across our college campuses. This country is fucked by the lack of a true leader. I fear for us more now than ever before.

How old are you again? And you have lived in the USA, how long now?

 

[StormfrontFL]

Yes, things certainly have gotten better under the obama reign. He's quite good at the rhetoric, a good quip, and deflecting issues, rather than facing them head on. Never in my life have I seen and felt such a period of uncertainty about our country, and our world. The current environment we are living in is largely due to his extreme lack of experience and direction on the foreign front. The world lives in feat of terrorists. Closer to home, we have a major breakdown in race relations in this country not seen in decades. We have sharp increases in random acts of violence by crazed youths across our college campuses. This country is fucked by the lack of a true leader. I fear for us more now than ever before.

So much wrong in what you say.....

1) The world lives in fear of terrorists. Is terrorism new? It must not have existed prior to him taking office? ISIS has nothing to do with the previous administration destabilizing the area, does it?

2)We have a major breakdown in race relations in this country. Could this have something to do with racists who have been given freer reign in a certain party openly expressing what they have been forced to suppress? No need to express racist sentiments as long as their were no national black leaders. I also love it when a white guy wonders why racism is now being brought up. I can tell you that as a black man racism has always been here it's just that people like you would prefer it not be mentioned so you can pretend it's not happening.

3)We have a sharp increase in random acts of violence by crazed youths across our college campuses. In no way is the proliferation of guns supported by the NRA to be blamed for this(NOT).

Thank you for once and for all revealing yourself as the partisan hack most of us have known you to be.

 

[deleted15807]

Yes, things certainly have gotten better under the obama reign. He's quite good at the rhetoric, a good quip, and deflecting issues, rather than facing them head on. Never in my life have I seen and felt such a period of uncertainty about our country, and our world. The current environment we are living in is largely due to his extreme lack of experience and direction on the foreign front. The world lives in feat of terrorists. Closer to home, we have a major breakdown in race relations in this country not seen in decades. We have sharp increases in random acts of violence by crazed youths across our college campuses. This country is fucked by the lack of a true leader. I fear for us more now than ever before.

The one thing we know conservatives live in is a constant state of fear and hysteria and are prone to debilitating panic attacks.

Feeling uncertain are you? Maybe you should look in the mirror and realize you're the cause of your own demise in your quest to get youknowwho you've actually fucked yourself...

Mortality Rate for Poorly Educated, Middle-Aged Whites Skyrockets to Shocking Level

We have sharp increases in random acts of violence ....

It's so incredibly ironic when conservatives discuss "violence" yet oppose ANY attempt at reining in the proliferation of guns in this country. Mass shootings must give you all hardons. Shooting up a school of elementary kids is A-fucking-OK AND pushing for not less but MORE handguns. Elementary school kids should be packing Glocks in their lunch boxes for protection right?

 

[b.c.]

So much wrong in what you say.....

1) The world lives in fear of terrorists. Is terrorism new? It must not have existed prior to him taking office? ISIS has nothing to do with the previous administration destabilizing the area, does it?

2)We have a major breakdown in race relations in this country. Could this have something to do with racists who have been given freer reign in a certain party openly expressing what they have been forced to suppress? No need to express racist sentiments as long as their were no national black leaders. I also love it when a white guy wonders why racism is now being brought up. I can tell you that as a black man racism has always been here it's just that people like you would prefer it not be mentioned so you can pretend it's not happening.

3)We have a sharp increase in random acts of violence by crazed youths across our college campuses. In no way is the proliferation of guns supported by the NRA to be blamed for this(NOT).

Thank you for once and for all revealing yourself as the partisan hack most of us have known you to be.

What most of us know is that he's NEVER gotten over the idea of an Obama as President of the Unites States.

 

[StormfrontFL]

What most of us know is that he's NEVER gotten over the idea of an Obama as President of the Unites States.

But he's not racist because he's distantly related to a black person(sarcasm intended). That one person gives him immunity for all the racist things he says or supports.

 

[Jjz1109]

So much wrong in what you say.....

1) The world lives in fear of terrorists. Is terrorism new? It must not have existed prior to him taking office? ISIS has nothing to do with the previous administration destabilizing the area, does it?

2)We have a major breakdown in race relations in this country. Could this have something to do with racists who have been given freer reign in a certain party openly expressing what they have been forced to suppress? No need to express racist sentiments as long as their were no national black leaders. I also love it when a white guy wonders why racism is now being brought up. I can tell you that as a black man racism has always been here it's just that people like you would prefer it not be mentioned so you can pretend it's not happening.

3)We have a sharp increase in random acts of violence by crazed youths across our college campuses. In no way is the proliferation of guns supported by the NRA to be blamed for this(NOT).

Thank you for once and for all revealing yourself as the partisan hack most of us have known you to be.

Of course terrorism in not new. But the days of blowing up post offices or embassies are over, with targeted attacks now on innocent civilians on airplanes and in theaters, restaurants, and just today in a Mali hotel, making us all vulnerable. You almost suggest this is a minor inconvenience, and we should all just learn to deal with it. Perhaps you should venture beyond the remoteness of your Florida trailer park and come to NYC, where we were attacked once, and where the police are now on hightened alert standing guard at major sites armed with submachine guns. Then tell me how blasé you are about the threat of terrorism. Try not to think about it on a regular basis, but the reminders are there everyday.

As for your second point, I never mentioned racism. I brought up the undeniable breakdown in race relations that has occurred in the last few years under this president. Ironically, much of the deterioration is taking place among our youth, on college campuses, so nice try to pin this on a certain political party. Regardless, I will add that your very need to show the difference of a comment made by a "white guy" vs your view as a "black man" only goes to highlight my point perfectly. Thank you. (BTW, you think the betterment of race relations could possible go towards reducing racism? Nahhhhh.)

And lastly, you never addressed the real point I was making, which was the sharp increase in violence across our college campuses, again in recent years. The guns have always been there, so why now? Tell me.

Oh yeah, save the partisan hack rhetoric dude, we know where most of us here stand politically. Your reference to a certain party was not missed, hypocrite.