Why the republican party doesnt appeal to people...
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No one ever died because maybe a fraudulent ballot was cast, however many people have died because they were no qualified capable drivers. Voting is a right - it should have almost no restrictions on it, driving is a privilege the state can confer or withhold as any individual situation merits.
You do know that Adolf Hitler came to power by massive ballot rigging?
The fraud there existed in the counting, not the voting. An election here is more steal able by manipulation after the ballots are cast. Yet the same GOP that cares about poor blacks voting cut the number of poll watchers, and ballot counters to save money. Have some water while you consider that. Flint?
Wasn't there something about burning down the reichstag and blaming it on their political enemies? I am not an expert on german election fraud, but I got the definite impression they were keen to use all possible methods.
I hope an election here is more stealable by the significant number of people not included on the electoral register, but that is somewhat off topic for a thread about US politics. But I seems to recall constituency manipulation is a popular passtime in US politics too. Somehow the Uk parliament in its wisdom has instructed that voters not registered will not be counted when allocating constituencies, even if they are known to live there from other databases. Thus they have no representation. Lots of unregistered, typically poor, people do not get the number of MPs they should get to represent them. I think the most recent number I heard was about 10% of the eligible electorate, which is well enough to alter the result.
The current Uk conservative (ie right) government is busy pushing this through, and it is doing so while arguing that it is actually removing an imbalance in the current system. Traditionally constituencies have been allocated on the basis of the number of people living there, not whether they bothered to register.
The question of voter impersonation and false postal ballots is one which gets more news time, but is probably less serious.
I wonder just how close the US might be to a coup of the sort which brought Adolf Hitler to power? Trump mania seems pretty popular. I'm not suggesting Trump is in the same class as Hitler, but his success is plainly down to the dismal failure of politicians as a whole. Hitler created his own party and own popularity and simply walked away with the show because the establishment no longer had popular support.
- Heat,
The other provable element of voting fraud comes from gerrymandering -- which is the only way the GOP keeps the House consistently Republican. Because so many local and state govt. lean right, every time there is a whisper that the state's voters are leaning left, they gerrymander the districts so that the individual GOP voters pull the elections back to the right. This should outrage ever single voter throughout the country.
- Heat,
You nailed it.
I do NOT understand why American workers -- who have lost the most in the last 30 years -- are not lining up to join unions and demanding their legislators support them, too. There is NOT ONE SINGLE WORKER-RELATED ORGANIZATION -- that has done more for ALL AMERICANS than unions. From your two week paid vacation to sick leave, they are all the benefits of unions.
What is even more strange? Pay for American workers has actually decreased -- when inflation, etc. is factored in -- and that rests solely on the fact that unions have been under attack for the last 30 years -- and under attack by whom? I'll tell you who -- the GOP who are the party of corporations, not a party of the people.
If you don't support unions you should have no right to ask for unemployment benefits or cry about your low paying job. In fact, it begs the question: What the fuck is wrong with workers at places like Wal-Mart in that they would see the net-worth of the Walton family owners (each has billions of $ in their portfolios!!) and not say: Okay, this is over. You are paying me a living wage or we are shutting you down?!!!
And yet -- all those folks working at Wal-Mart for peanuts go to the polls and vote Republican. WTF is wrong with people!!!
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I think we saw last night and for those that saw him on ABC this morning just how much of an "empty suit" Marco Rubio truly is.
After days of Chris Christy making it as plain as the nose on your face that he was going to come after him for the way he is such as "autobot" always repeating often word for word lines out of his "stump speech" something his supporters call "staying on message" or "message disipline" but makes the rest of us wonder "is it live or is it Memorex" mere minutes into the debate he did just that with that "Lets dispell this fiction" line and then when he got called on it it was as if he just could not help himself and twice more repeated it almost if not actually verbatim and once more where the last time it was less verbatim but still more or less the same. and what made it even more curiuos in each case what he was responding to was his lack of experience or something else that that had nothing to do with but still it was like "roll the tape"
This morning on ABC first of all he tried to say it was not a mistake because of "that is what I believe" which is all well and good but if the question is about your lack of experience or what ever what does what you think the presidents motives are for what he has or maybe has NOT actually done have to do with what you are asked?
I reminded me of that scene in the movie "game change" where it is during the debate and Steve yells out "pivot"
But then to make matters worse in the space of 3 or 4 minutes he repeated against almost verbatim that "I am the most experienced---------" line out of his stump speech like 3 or 4 times, Was that what he was being asked about? No why he was on ABC this morning? Again a big fat NO.
First off that line is debatable at best because he has been in the Senate less than 4 years and if you subtract all the time he has not been there because he has been running for president or out supporting other peoples campaigns in 012 and 014 which most would say is in the end one in the same thing Congress and all those "class of 2010" I sleep in my office" practially never been there any way You have 2 nights, Tuesday and Wednesday followed by 5 :back at home" 12 if it followed by one of those "home district work weeks" which after John Boehner took over was about 1 in 3 to 4 weeks plus all the "breaks" and on top of that even when he was supposed to be there Rubio often was not
Now we have John Kasich who was in the House for well over 10 years was as I recall on the HASC for years among other "Foreign policy related committee's" So Rubio has some kind of balls to spout that "I am the most experienced--------" line
But so far no one seems to want to challenge him on that claim.
So in the space of less 12 hours he is out there acting like a member of the hall of Presidents at Disney World just repeating lines out of his stump speech verbatim no matter what the subject is and if Chris Christie or anyone else is at all smart they are going to cut an ad showing him last night and this morning and at least have it on the internet before the end of the day.
After days of Chris Christy making it as plain as the nose on your face that he was going to come after him for the way he is such as "autobot" always repeating often word for word lines out of his "stump speech" something his supporters call "staying on message" or "message disipline" but makes the rest of us wonder "is it live or is it Memorex" mere minutes into the debate he did just that with that "Lets dispell this fiction" line and then when he got called on it it was as if he just could not help himself and twice more repeated it almost if not actually verbatim and once more where the last time it was less verbatim but still more or less the same. and what made it even more curiuos in each case what he was responding to was his lack of experience or something else that that had nothing to do with but still it was like "roll the tape"
This morning on ABC first of all he tried to say it was not a mistake because of "that is what I believe" which is all well and good but if the question is about your lack of experience or what ever what does what you think the presidents motives are for what he has or maybe has NOT actually done have to do with what you are asked?
I reminded me of that scene in the movie "game change" where it is during the debate and Steve yells out "pivot"
But then to make matters worse in the space of 3 or 4 minutes he repeated against almost verbatim that "I am the most experienced---------" line out of his stump speech like 3 or 4 times, Was that what he was being asked about? No why he was on ABC this morning? Again a big fat NO.
First off that line is debatable at best because he has been in the Senate less than 4 years and if you subtract all the time he has not been there because he has been running for president or out supporting other peoples campaigns in 012 and 014 which most would say is in the end one in the same thing Congress and all those "class of 2010" I sleep in my office" practially never been there any way You have 2 nights, Tuesday and Wednesday followed by 5 :back at home" 12 if it followed by one of those "home district work weeks" which after John Boehner took over was about 1 in 3 to 4 weeks plus all the "breaks" and on top of that even when he was supposed to be there Rubio often was not
Now we have John Kasich who was in the House for well over 10 years was as I recall on the HASC for years among other "Foreign policy related committee's" So Rubio has some kind of balls to spout that "I am the most experienced--------" line
But so far no one seems to want to challenge him on that claim.
So in the space of less 12 hours he is out there acting like a member of the hall of Presidents at Disney World just repeating lines out of his stump speech verbatim no matter what the subject is and if Chris Christie or anyone else is at all smart they are going to cut an ad showing him last night and this morning and at least have it on the internet before the end of the day.
- b.c.,
Which is EXACTLY why when the GOP and the wealthy 2% speak of "trickle down," they REALLY mean P*****ING on everyone ELSE.
His very bad and cheap looking suits were the first thing I noticed about that dude. Straight off the rack from "Ross Dress for Less" in Miami. Almost as bad as Rand Paul's brown Hush Puppies.
I've been wondering when someone would call out Marco for being a programmable talking head. No love for Jersey Fats, but good on him.
Hey! None of that talk - I have a long sentimental attachment to Hush Puppies. (joke)
I think Rubio got flustered the most because Christie used the term bubble boy. I think the boy appellation cut him to the core. Most of my Hispanic friends - the male ones really hate the term boy because it is often applied to laborers well into their 60's. Just into my 60's I would do a cartwheel if someone called me boy, and probably perform a sexual act or two - but I do understand why it cuts, jokes aside.
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So then how do you explain why he did the EXACT same thing on ABC the next morning?
George S did not call him "boy" or do anything else that should have "flustered him"
Some would say that he has been "programmed" that at the first hint of adversity to "pivot" to well memorized lines out of his stump speech as his "escape mechanism"
It would be interesting to look back at the earlier debates and see just how many times he did what he did Saturday night but somehow it either not noticed or at least not called out on it.
So then how do you explain why he did the EXACT same thing on ABC the next morning?
George S did not call him "boy" or do anything else that should have "flustered him"
Some would say that he has been "programmed" that at the first hint of adversity to "pivot" to well memorized lines out of his stump speech as his "escape mechanism"
It would be interesting to look back at the earlier debates and see just how many times he did what he did Saturday night but somehow it either not noticed or at least not called out on it.
And the Democrat party is? Neither party gives a damn about the average, hard-working, tax-paying citizen. There are three types of people: the moochers, who live off the work of others, firmly believing that "You work, I eat" is a good way to live. Then there are the looters - these are the plutocrats in government at all levels who love to tax you so they can spend, give money to their friends, have nice retirements. Both parties suck up to moochers and looters to keep themselves in power. The workers, alas, have no one on their side. It should be the press, but except for Fox, the media is now an arm of the Democrat party and their values. The workers are screwed until they wake up, organize (yes, unionize) and throw both parties out of office. But this is America. As long as we're addicted to football, porn, TV, comic book based movies we'll never waken from our stupor.
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