Why the republican party doesnt appeal to people...
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Donald Trump Might Do What Teddy Roosevelt Couldn't, trigger a breakup of the GOP
http://fortune.com/2016/03/09/donald-trump-teddy-roosevelt/?xid=smartnews
http://fortune.com/2016/03/09/donald-trump-teddy-roosevelt/?xid=smartnews
And now a conservative writer pens:
The lowest moment of last night — maybe the lowest of the election and in the history of the GOP — came before the debate, when Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus pledged that the RNC “is going to support the nominee, whoever that is, 100 percent.”
The RNC now stands for no principle and upholds no standard of conduct. It exists merely to win.
www.washingtonpost.com: Let’s scrap the GOP and start over
The RNC now stands for no principle and upholds no standard of conduct. It exists merely to win.
www.washingtonpost.com: Let’s scrap the GOP and start over
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Is anyone surprised? At least they're not pretending to be "the big tent party" anymore. Never did the RNC or Priebus speak out against tRump or the division he has caused so why be shocked that they will now choose to embrace him? Funny how all the negative things they said about Obama and his "lack of experience", his "divisive talk and policies", or his wife's "lack of style, class, and grace" seem to disappear when confronted with tRump's total lack of political experience, his divisive talk regarding Muslims and Mexicans or his embrace of hate groups, and Melania's life as a nude model or her apparent money based marriage.
Since Nixon's Southern Strategy the means have always justified the ends. They didn't care what kind of slime slithered into the "big tent" as long as they voted them in. Once in power they promptly got down to tax cuts and abortion seemingly the two things they simply cannot get enough of. It's their crack. Crack for the plutocrats that can't stand taxes and crack for the theocrats that are in love with fetuses.Everyone else can eat shit and die. And opps why throw in a little war here and there. Have to keep them fearful and angry.
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In the 2010 election the GOP cry was that if elected they would focus on jobs. Once in power they forgot jobs and concentrated on the ACA. It's either the ACA , abortion, gun rights, or tax cuts. Jobs and the infrastructure are an afterthought.
This is something many right wingers don't want to think about. If those politicians actually tried to live up to some of those promises then perhaps tRump and his anti politician followers wouldn't have a leg to stand on. Instead of presenting a positive to run on they hope by going negative about their opponent it's enough to do the job.
The one thing that used to be said about Republican politicians is that they wanted to do what helps the country regardless of who is President but those days are gone. Now it's all about stopping the opposition even if it holds the country back.
You can't really blame that for the rise of Trump, although that is certainly part of it.
Haven't you noticed that every time Trump says or does something racist, his poll numbers among Republican voters goes up?
The Republican establishment has been flirting with dog whistle racism for decades now. Further, they have been furnishing lots of excuses for the implied racism so that Republican voters have been trained to find racism appealing but deny to themselves that they are racist.
It was inevitable that some Republican politician would say openly what the other Republican politicians only hint at, and it was inevitable that this would make him more popular with Republican voters.
The Republican establishment unwittingly created the Trump phenomenon.
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Oh I know that the "We thought it was well hidden" racist talk of the GOP that tRump now pulls the covers from is part of the reason we now have tRump. I just feel it's not the only thing. A number of Republicans, who I doubt have any racist tendencies or feelings, have been saying that some of what makes idiots like tRump appealing is a dissatisfaction with politicians who would rather concentrate on getting reelected than doing their job.
Even in this forum we've seen several who speak out against what they see as hate and racial animus on the Democrat side but are strangely silent about tRump and those like him. As long as it's kept quiet(allowing them deniability) it's okay but tRump denies them that luxury.
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In the South, it seems, old prejudices have persisted. Southern counties that had more slaves on the eve of the Civil War are distinct from their neighbors: White residents in those areas are more hostile toward African Americans and they are more likely to vote Republican today, new research shows. Drawing on archival Census figures and recent polls, the study adds to an expanding body of evidence on the importance of racial anxiety to the predominantly white Republican coalition.
"The underlying racial hostility goes on in the culture, passed on from generation to generation," said David Sears, a psychologist at the University of California, Los Angeles. "Local culture doesn't change very quickly."
www.washingtonpost.com: Researchers have found strong evidence that racism helps the GOP win
"The underlying racial hostility goes on in the culture, passed on from generation to generation," said David Sears, a psychologist at the University of California, Los Angeles. "Local culture doesn't change very quickly."
www.washingtonpost.com: Researchers have found strong evidence that racism helps the GOP win
In fairness, younger Southerners are statistically less racist than older Southerners, so the South is changing, just very slowly.
I worry that Republican rhetoric causes those changes to happen more slowly because they are so good at providing rationalizations and excuses for racism that allow people to deny their own racism while simultaneously indulging it.
- b.c.,
NOT so unwittingly, I think. In fact, quite DELIBERATELY. They just didn't count on the possibility that the demon they let out of the box would be one from outside their rank and file; one who wasn't under their FULL control.
That bandwagon effect I spoke of earlier in another thread, for various reasons. One being the desire for some to get what they can for SELF by jumping on board with Trump. The other being fears of alienating their on rabid constituency. The third being the hope that jumping aboard might translate into a president willing to work with those in Congress (file under: scratch my back and...).
As for what they've said about Obama, etc. that's merely the old DOUBLE STANDARD at play. Obama "arrogant", Trump, NOT.
Obama "divisive", Trump, NOT. etc. etc.
It's the reason why some black protestors are a "hate group" while a mob of Trump supporters at one of his rallies, OR his constituency, for that matter, AREN'T.
Letting the demon out of the box is what I was referring to when I said unwittingly.
Honestly, the Republican leadership should have anticipated this outcome. Even if this had come from within their own ranks, it would have been nearly impossible for the establishment candidate to resist the huge boost in the polls from every nakedly racist statement.
Indeed Boehner said "This election is about jobs, jobs, jobs." then doing zilch knowing full well their base is too stupid to connect the dots. In fact they continued their tireless efforts to crash the economy and blame Obama. They cannot stand that they have zero power over the Fed. Being unable to politicize and control such a powerful government agency leaves them seething.
thinkprogress.org: Forget Interest Rates. Republicans Want The Federal Reserve To Destroy The Economy.
Until Trump pulled the covers back to reveal to the naked eye which they had always used plausible deniability as an iron clad method to enact laws aimed squarely at minorities like voter id laws and the war on drugs which is the greatest waste of people and money in this century but it served a very useful political purpose of keeping them in office.
Again, Republicans can and do deny it.
In fact one of the Republicans on my Facebook feed posted an article claiming that accusations of racism from liberals is purely the result of mental illness. It even used fancy-sounding psychology terms.
Well fact is they all live in a delusional world where tax cuts don't cause red ink and George Bush kept us safe. And the Iraq War was a success. They get all their news from totally compromised sources that only exist to push long discredited conservative orthodoxy and get rich doing it. Until Fox News is taken out by an air strike don't expect much in the U.S. to improve. It's the biggest source of disinformation on the planet and it's made Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes very rich doing it.
Trying to shut down FOX News would only lend them undeserved legitimacy.
Boycotting advertisers is one thing, but using any government action to shut them down is a no-go.
and there's this.......
The rigidity of the Republican doctrine on taxes resembles an alternative version of the movie, "Groundhog Day." In that film, the Bill Murray character experiences a time loop in which he repeats the title 24-hour period until he corrects the personal problems that had landed him in limbo.
In the darker alternative version, the GOP begins every presidential election cycle with a demand for lower taxes. The tax policy of the previous four years has no effect on this mantra. Nor do the economic trends of that period alter the robotic claim that lower taxes will cure all difficulties. A smaller tax bite will perpetuate an economic boom or cure a recession.
The darker tone of this version stems from the fact that GOP, unlike Murray, never learns from its mistakes. Previous tax cuts may have caused inflation or boosted the deficit, without any positive impact on real GDP, but such practical consequences do not stimulate a revision of party doctrine. In this remake of the original film, unfortunately, the entire country suffers from the inability or unwillingness of the Republicans to learn from experience.
Is there a script doctor in the house?
In the darker alternative version, the GOP begins every presidential election cycle with a demand for lower taxes. The tax policy of the previous four years has no effect on this mantra. Nor do the economic trends of that period alter the robotic claim that lower taxes will cure all difficulties. A smaller tax bite will perpetuate an economic boom or cure a recession.
The darker tone of this version stems from the fact that GOP, unlike Murray, never learns from its mistakes. Previous tax cuts may have caused inflation or boosted the deficit, without any positive impact on real GDP, but such practical consequences do not stimulate a revision of party doctrine. In this remake of the original film, unfortunately, the entire country suffers from the inability or unwillingness of the Republicans to learn from experience.
Is there a script doctor in the house?
I assume you didn't write that?
Whoever wrote that didn't understand a very basic thing. The aristocrats who tell Republicans what to think are getting exactly what they want. That's why they keep doing it.
