Why was dxjnorto banned?

D_Tim McGnaw

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I presume that you can link to bona fide material directly relevant to a discussion between adults?

I also presume that those seeking kiddie porn have far better sources than browsing this entire site for the odd snippet that may include an image that whilst clearly not pornographic may be taken as such by someone with an illness.

I would like to defend DX more, but I don't know what images he was warned not to post. It wasn't that much linked video of the poor baby screaming during circumcision was it? Because that has been linked here many times.


I don't know what you mean by "bona fide material directly relevant to a discussion" Drifterwood. Nude pictures of children, bona fide (whatever that means) or not, relevant or not, are not allowed. Fullstop.
 

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I found him a little insensitive to new members with comments like, "Too bad you're circumcised."

What he said.
Not only was he super adamant in pushing his "uncut crusade", but he would go after people in the Show Off section and would tell folks how they looked flawed all because they were circumcised. I didn't see the photo that was posted, but considering that he was warned about it he should have known better than to do it twice. He's a 48 year old man. He knew exactly what he was doing and that he would get in trouble for it.

One of his favorite defense mechanisms was to tell others how negative and hateful people like myself were (in his patented, passive aggressive manner). But I don't know anyone who takes his own angst to these levels around here.

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dxjnorto got himself cut? Now that's ironic.

That's just evil. Am I guilty for chuckling at this if just a little bit?
 
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The image I saw, that he got the warning about, was an image of an infant circumcision in progress - operating sheet cut-away, showing an infant's penis and testicles, with the foreskin in a clamp about to be cut.

While I agree that we should be able to have an adult discussion of matters such as circumcision I also understand that this site has a rule of no images of minors, at all. Uploading or linking to an image of a minor or part of a minor is not allowed on this site. dx was clearly illustrating a point and there was no dubious sexual intent behind the posting of that image. The mod team, fairly I thought, removed the image and warned him that it was not allowed on this site. He then linked to the same or similar image. That time he knew he was not supposed to - what did he expect the mod team to do?

That image was not a required part of the discussion and even if it was that's just tough - the no images of minors rule is clear.

I don't know what you mean by "bona fide material directly relevant to a discussion" Drifterwood. Nude pictures of children, bona fide (whatever that means) or not, relevant or not, are not allowed. Fullstop.

Well for start, if you were discussing the potential psychosexual trauma of infant circumcision, you might want to actually see one taking place. A video of such has been posted here at least once, and maybe even by me, I can't remember, though I sure as hell remember the screaming. I am also fairly sure that horrifically graphic images of FGM have been posted.

Paedophilia involving babies is really very rare Hilly, and certainly not connected in any way I would have thought with large penises, though your choice of the word children is interesting as usual. I would have thought that this site should be more worried about teenage minors and thiose who have a real penchant for them. Yes, I know that Pecks is always onto this very scrupulously.

I don't disagree, MB, rules is rules and I really wonder why he had to re-post when warned. Maybe he had just had enough. I am not going to judge a guy because he felt passionately about something and clearly he was not posting any images for any possible sexual motivation. He just decided not to bow to the rules which is altogether a more serious crime. :rolleyes:
 

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Well for start, if you were discussing the potential psychosexual trauma of infant circumcision, you might want to actually see one taking place. A video of such has been posted here at least once, and maybe even by me, I can't remember, though I sure as hell remember the screaming. I am also fairly sure that horrifically graphic images of FGM have been posted.

Paedophilia involving babies is really very rare Hilly, and certainly not connected in any way I would have thought with large penises, though your choice of the word children is interesting as usual. I would have thought that this site should be more worried about teenage minors and thiose who have a real penchant for them. Yes, I know that Pecks is always onto this very scrupulously.

I don't disagree, MB, rules is rules and I really wonder why he had to re-post when warned. Maybe he had just had enough. I am not going to judge a guy because he felt passionately about something and clearly he was not posting any images for any possible sexual motivation. He just decided not to bow to the rules which is altogether a more serious crime. :rolleyes:



I explained the position Drifterwood. The reason for his banning has been made clear to you, I'm not sure what you don't understand. I don't have anything more to say on the subject. :smile:
 

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I explained the position Drifterwood. The reason for his banning has been made clear to you, I'm not sure what you don't understand. I don't have anything more to say on the subject. :smile:

I understand very well Hilly. Are you being belligerently disingenuous? You seemed to have a problem with the term bona fide, I tried to explain in good faith. Take it or leave it.
 

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If people are on the lookout for kiddie porn then yes, I'm sure they have other places to find it than an adult-based large penis website. Having said that, do you have ANY idea how many PM's or chat whispers I've received during my time on this site from completely random strange guys that I don't know asking me if my sons penis is bigger or smaller than theirs? Yes, I mean those guys into small penis humiliation. It's disgusting. It crosses a line. It's pretty apparent to me that even though they can possibly get it elsewhere, they'll still take it whenever they can. I make a passing comment in a post somewhere, or in chat possibly about how my son did that once, or haha, check out what my son just said - innocent passing comments - and guys take it upon themselves to decide that "Hey, she has a son... I should ask about his dick!" Children have no place on this site, period. If you don't agree with the rule, Drifter, then that's fine. We don't ask every person to agree with every rule we put into place. But we'll just have to agree to disagree, because I'm pretty sure that after some of the things the other mods and I have seen on this site in regards to children (gross), we won't be letting up on that rule anytime soon.
 
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Having said that, do you have ANY idea how many PM's or chat whispers I've received during my time on this site from completely random strange guys that I don't know asking me if my sons penis is bigger or smaller than theirs? Yes, I mean those guys into small penis humiliation. It's disgusting. It crosses a line. It's pretty apparent to me that even though they can possibly get it elsewhere, they'll still take it whenever they can. I make a passing comment in a post somewhere, or in chat possibly about how my son did that once, or haha, check out what my son just said - innocent passing comments - and guys take it upon themselves to decide that "Hey, she has a son... I should ask about his dick!"

What in the actual fuck is wrong with some people?! :frown1:
 

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As you say, TMM, getting off by being called babydick is not the same as getting off looking at baby dick. I responded to MB above that I don't have a problem with rules being rules and DX' decision to take the consequences. We all have that choice.

SPHers trolling is IMO more offensive that what DX did. Do guys get banned for this type of harassment?

It is a great shame for us all that a site for adults cannot discuss an adult issue. That is my problem and it has been since Jason Els and I could not discuss pederasty in the classical world. And there is far more danger in that than there is in discussing RIC because of the profile and rarity and psychology and age of infant pedophiles.

CG makes a very good point.
 

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I found him a little insensitive to new members with comments like, "Too bad you're circumcised."
He must've been feeling generous that day, because his more common wording in this regard, whether it be new member, celeb photo, or whatever, was instead of using the word "circumcised", to call the guy "mutilated", "butchered", or "had half his dick cut off."
 

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I don't disagree, MB, rules is rules and I really wonder why he had to re-post when warned. Maybe he had just had enough. I am not going to judge a guy because he felt passionately about something and clearly he was not posting any images for any possible sexual motivation. He just decided not to bow to the rules which is altogether a more serious crime. :rolleyes:

Of all the pathologies exhibited on the internet, Suicide by Moderator has to be one of the odder. It brings passive-aggressive behavior to whole new levels of absurdity.

I stay clear of the circ threads because it's like discussing what the weather was like 25-50 years ago: truly pointless.

I peruse the Mod Actions thread about once a week, and saw his warning. Without ever having seen it, I figured it was some especially appalling and gruesome pic of an infant circumcision. Suggesting a Google image search under a RIC matrix would have resulted in just the same thing and wouldn't have been deemed ban-worthy. Especially in light of the warning, posting an image or link can only be seen as an act of pointless provocation.
 

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What in the actual fuck is wrong with some people?! :frown1:

If I ever find the answer, I'll let you know.

As much as this site brings me pleasure, it also makes me ask this very question, all too often :cool:

I feel the exact same way, dear.

As you say, TMM, getting off by being called babydick is not the same as getting off looking at baby dick. I responded to MB above that I don't have a problem with rules being rules and DX' decision to take the consequences. We all have that choice.

SPHers trolling is IMO more offensive that what DX did. Do guys get banned for this type of harassment?

It is a great shame for us all that a site for adults cannot discuss an adult issue. That is my problem and it has been since Jason Els and I could not discuss pederasty in the classical world. And there is far more danger in that than there is in discussing RIC because of the profile and rarity and psychology and age of infant pedophiles.

CG makes a very good point.

If someone reports the harassment, then yes, the moderators will take whatever action we deem necessary based on the situation and what happened. I agree wholeheartedly that due to the inanity and immaturity of many members, we cannot discuss some topics in an adult manner because it's quickly brought down to a level which is no longer considered adult. I also agree that it's pretty sad that we can't do that. But, we can't. Our ultimate goal is to keep the site clean and safe. We do what we feel we have to do.
 

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Especially in light of the warning, posting an image or link can only be seen as an act of pointless provocation.

Evidently not for DX and in fact the many other longstanding members who have done precisely the same thing.

I am not sure that I see it in the same passive aggressive light, BB. I see many of these instances of suicide, as it were, as a statement of I'm just fucking done with this and quite often they are over technicalities of transgression where the letter of the law is broken whilst the spirit has certainly been lacking.