Why was Mlle Rouge banned?

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Has no one else noticed that Luka has now thrown his rattle out of the pram and removed his avatar, his pic(s?) and left a 'so long and thanks for all the fish' message in his verification pic removal thread?

Who's trying to make this all about Luka? :rolleyes:

Oh, fishin', I'm sure.

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See I don't understand that though. If Luka was on MR's ignore list why did she feel the compulsion to tell Tomcat to not engage with him lest he face a banning?

I mean if she was genuinely concerned about Tomcat why not send a private message, and considering the context she can't really have thought there was any possibility that Tomcat would be banned anyway. The only reason I can see MR might have decided to post what she did is that she saw Luka quoted in Tomcat's post, and couldn't control herself and decided to take a sly potshot at Luka by implying he was a Mod's pet, disagreement with whom could get you banned at the drop of a hat.

That's the $100,000 question, isn't it? I have no explanation as to why MR (who knew she was on thin ice) didn't relay her concern to TC via PM: that's what I would have done under similar circumstances. And, FWIW, TC's had at least one temp ban from the Politics forum himself, his continued interaction with Luka might well have led to another, or perhaps a temp ban from the entirety of LPSG.

But banning because of an implication, and a rather oblique one at that? I know that her banning was cause by an aggregate of circumstances and incidences. As my first post in this thread since the banning said, whatever the straw was that broke the camel's back must have been tiny, indeed. But an implication? Even that's too much for my credulity to maintain.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that I think MR is a bad person, not by any manner or means, as I pointed out before her banning is a big loss around here and I found her a very interesting poster and think she's great. But like many of us around here, she has a somewhat short fuse and doesn't suffer people she thinks are fools or malicious in some way.

I think she lost control of her compulsion to confront people one time too many. I think whether or not you see her feud with Luka as harassment is a matter of perspective. It appears there was undoubtedly a two way element to this situation, but MR was just less able to control her role in it and stepped over a line which caused her ban. Others get away with their roles in similar conflicts by not stepping over that line.

You can see MR as either someone who has trouble controlling her emotions or you can see her as someone who is honest and unwilling to allow certain behaviours she objects to to go unchallenged.

Agreed, and I agree that she's undoubtedly both. But one of the most ironic things about this banning is that, at least in the instance that got her banned, she was actually controlling herself.

I think many of us have been in similar situations, where our emotions have governed our decision making processes, and we may have posted in anger or some other negative emotion, we all have to try to walk a line between being true to ourselves and controlling our responses to others so that our reactions to others are proportionate and justifiable. When we behave disproportionately or in ways which are hard to justify then the mods are right to reprimand us.

Again though I really do think its a shame MR isn't around anymore, and I'm really disappointed that ML got taken out as collateral damage, especially since I can sympathise with why she did what she did.

I have completely crossed that line twice; in one case the thread was being actively monitored by a mod who interjected continuously with posts supporting mine, and as my name was mentioned specifically in the OP of that especially hateful thread, perhaps my utter abandonment of detachment was considered justified.

The other was just a lash out at a member whose posts continually annoy me. Both were in the Politics forum back before the "New Rules" were implemented; neither resulted in so much as a warning to me and I'm hardly any mod's pet, especially in light of my vocal and (relatively) often criticism of how LPSG is moderated.
 

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Yup, that's me. Nick8 or Lex can attest that I am precisely whom I seem to be here.

No. The thing I can do is attest to the fact that you are much more than the sum of your parts and much, much more than the sum of anyone's fantasies.

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