Why women's opinion on penis size is skewed and what can we do to improve this

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Omg. Why is this so important? Why are such precise details so vital to your self esteem?

Makes me dry up and like men just a little bit less every time I read one of these needy, one-note "size-is-is-so-important-women-are-lying-bitches" threads.
I'mma answer this question.

Men's genitals are outside. For all to see. There for since we can see only men's genitals, we only see 1 party whom is responsible for the mismatch of sizes. Women's vagina cannot be seen, thus it is not really considered most times.

Comes down to man being too big, too small, or just right.
Looseness for women is more of a slut shaming thing. No one uses genital size for slut shaming men.

Thus since the responsibility for a positive fit puts forth most of its weight on men(which I don't agree with it being this way) It is more natural that men are going to be the more fixated party when it concerns the SIZE of their genitals.
Being small is shit.
Average is ok
Big is looked as a positive thing. Even too big: Its like a slap in the face but it comes with a cupcake you can happily gnash on in the form of either ego booster or mitigated ego damage.

Sooo No one wants to be thought of as inferior, not good enough, too small, etc etc etc etc.

Thus knowing not all women are built the same or even how the fuck women are built in the terms of depth in general.

Men want to know the answer. To find out if they are good enough. AS IS. Not with compensation (imo shit every man should be doing anyways) They want to be good enough for the opposite sex. They want to be thought of as pleasurable, greatly so.

Men generally like numbers. Something definitive. Not huge fans of vagueness. Vagueness tends to fuel the insecurity.


Maybe that sheds more light on to why. There is more to it .... but I got tired of typing/my food is ready for consumption and I'd rather be stuffing my face with something delicious than talking about something that has been talked about more times than characters have left my fingertips.
 

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Vagueness is the answer every time because there is no one-size-fits-all. There is no number answer. As a person who has helped deliver babies and has had sex with women, up to the point of fisting, I can tell you no 2 vaginas are built exactly alike. One vagina might love to be cunt-punched by a fat man hand while another can barely accommodate a tiny woman's hand.

If you want to see what size works for women, go to a sex shop and look at the dildos. There isn't just one dildo on the wall for a reason. Women enjoy various sizes. And it IS possible for a woman to enjoy a smaller than average cock on the right guy than a larger than average cock on the wrong guy.

A ob/gyn has several speculum sizes on hand to deal with vaginas of all size. I always ask for the small instruments.

There are no magic numbers. We are talking human anatomy here and it varies quite a bit. I have a friend who is in specialty porn that just for jollies likes to stick peanut butter jars up her lady bits. All the while I can tear with 2 fingers.

This finding the perfect size cock for all women is just as absurd as trying to figure out which size dick all gay bottoms enjoy.

Vaginas vary. They vary. They vary. They vary.
 
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I'mma answer this question.

Men's genitals are outside. For all to see. There for since we can see only men's genitals, we only see 1 party whom is responsible for the mismatch of sizes. Women's vagina cannot be seen, thus it is not really considered most times.

Comes down to man being too big, too small, or just right.
Looseness for women is more of a slut shaming thing. No one uses genital size for slut shaming men.

Thus since the responsibility for a positive fit puts forth most of its weight on men(which I don't agree with it being this way) It is more natural that men are going to be the more fixated party when it concerns the SIZE of their genitals.
Being small is shit.
Average is ok
Big is looked as a positive thing. Even too big: Its like a slap in the face but it comes with a cupcake you can happily gnash on in the form of either ego booster or mitigated ego damage.

Sooo No one wants to be thought of as inferior, not good enough, too small, etc etc etc etc.

Thus knowing not all women are built the same or even how the fuck women are built in the terms of depth in general.

Men want to know the answer. To find out if they are good enough. AS IS. Not with compensation (imo shit every man should be doing anyways) They want to be good enough for the opposite sex. They want to be thought of as pleasurable, greatly so.

Men generally like numbers. Something definitive. Not huge fans of vagueness. Vagueness tends to fuel the insecurity.


Maybe that sheds more light on to why. There is more to it .... but I got tired of typing/my food is ready for consumption and I'd rather be stuffing my face with something delicious than talking about something that has been talked about more times than characters have left my fingertips.

We keep telling you, you're great. We like you the way you are. Couldn't give a shit about numbers. I've never even thought about penis size except when it hurt when it was too big and one time with a micro penis. Never measured.

I don't expect you to answer, because this isn't your issue but holy crap - some men really want women to take responsibility for making them feel better about their dicks. Well sorry, but not going to happen. I don't expect men to make me feel good about my vagina, tits, ass, hair, face or any other body part. If you don't like it, don't fuck it. And I especially don't need validation from strangers.

So the OP trying to get women to standardize some kind of response to size is ridiculous. It reveals some kind of deep seated insecurity about his body. Now whether his mommy made him feel bad, or he had a bad girlfriend or he watches too much porn is between him and his therapist. Regardless, it isn't up to the rest of the women of the Internet world to "reveal the truth" about size. Because it doesn't matter.
 
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Men generally like numbers. Something definitive. Not huge fans of vagueness. Vagueness tends to fuel the insecurity.
I don't really want to upset you again today, so I'm just pointing out in a clear, concise and direct way, that stereotyping of this sort is, well, stereotyping.
 

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My theory is that there is a certain range of penis size that's ideal for every woman. However when women post their different preferences, there's so many options to each one of them, so we can't ever make correct conclusions from posts on forums unless they are really detailed.

Woman 1: Penis size doesn't matter to me.
Well, sure, if you've been with 7 guys, all of them in the range of 6 to 7, it wouldn't matter of course. You've never seen anything else.

Woman 2: I like them big, huge, fire extinguisher please.
Sure, that's fine, at least share what's the depth and wideness of your vagina in an excited state, so we may draw a better picture in our heads why do you prefer over 8 inch penis for example.

You see where I'm going with this guys....

In order for a woman to be taken seriously on a forum about penis size preference, she should meet the following criteria:

She must have experienced a really small dick (e.g. 3-4 inch) to a really big dick (8.5 - 9 inch) - in order to make a valid comparison if size really matters or not.
Same for girth, she should have been with a really thin one and thick one, and all kind of combos, thin and long, thick and short, thick and long etc. to be able to create a valid penis preference and to actually know for herself what fits her best and where does the pleasure come from.

Furthermore, she should also share somehow the wideness and length of her vagina if we have to be precise, but since that's a ridiculous measurement this would never happen. So may be we should create some kind of criteria how to measure this. For example, how does a 6x5 penis feels. Is it good friction, is it very loose, is it stretching? From there we can know and draw further conclusions why she has her current preference.

So what we need is very experienced women, who have been with many partners and who can write very detailed explanations, then a size preference would be valid so we can have an idea what women like and why do they like it.

Perhaps simple solution to figure out things proportionally without giving too many details is to answer and choose a number out of two scales.


Girth Scale:
On a scale of 1 to 10 what's your preference in regards to feeling stretched/fullness?
Where 1-3 is you can barely feel the penis, 5-7 is medium to high stretching/fullness, you can feel well the entire penis,where 7.5 is a slight feeling of pain and a bit over stretching, where 8 to 10 would be over stretched to the limit with an average to high amount of pain.
So if we figure out what kind of number on this scale (which should be done in a more precise way probably) women mostly prefer, then every guy can know what he can expect when having sex with a woman by figuring out where he falls on the scale.
I guess most women would prefer 6 to 7.

Length Scale:
Same scale can be applied for the length, from barely entering(1) to cervix banging (10).

So by having these two numbers from these two girth and length scales, we can draw a conclusion what most women prefer(that's just valid if enough women opt in for this 'survey') .
So next time when I'm 5 on the girth scale and 6 on the length, I would know that probably she can have something better than me or may be I'm completely enough for her.

This is how we can probably avoid mentioning all other details, since even if you're a 4 inch, if you're girl is on the small size, you can still do 5 and 6 on the scales, so she should be fine.


Not the include the emotional side of things, which can't be measured. It's funny sometimes, a size queen craving for 9 inch can have a better experience with a 6 inch guy who she madly loves and is deeply emotionally connected with. So emotions and connection do play a huge rule in the size preferences.....
So a 6 inch can be a perfect substitute for a 9 inch, in case, there are other factors included, like passion, connection, love etc? How do we form a penis size preferences then ?

Any thoughts on this...
Because I have experienced scores of men with penis lengths ranging from 4.5" inches to 11" and girths from 4" to 7" I do fit your inane criteria for chosing an ideal size. Guess what? I don't have one! I liked nearly every partner I had. When I didn't have fun, the dude was a bad lay, and that had to do with HIM, not his dick. Know what else? This is just one out of billions of opinions . I don't have a preference, but there are many women who do, to varying degrees of importance. Some prefer smaller, many prefer average, and some prefer larger. Still, there are others like me, with no preference. None of us owe you anything. We don't owe it to you to have MRI images taken of our vaginas in order to properly measure volume capacity or whatever. We don't owe you an explanation.
 

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I didn't read the OP, but I'll just go into my usual spiel.

Big dicks are better for sex, pissing, male bonding, non-sexual physical intimacy, arousal and just basic aesthetics. Small Dicks are bad on every level and a sign of physical, psychological and moral weakness.

The only reason women claim to enjoy any cock under 7" is because of the misandrist and misogynistic anti-size conspiracy.

For hundreds of years, Smalls have tried to hide the truth about their (our) deformity. They've done a good job up till now, but thanks to feminism, the Internet and spread of pornography the truth about dick size is finally being revealed.
 

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You guys took it the wrong way and got offended lol. I wrote this post coz there is such a huge pressure on guys to perform well and especially on penis size and women always giving opinions I like this, I don't like this, I dumped him coz of small dick, I went back to my ex coz of his 9 inch. Well since it's that important to such an amazing degree of course men will want to know more. And size queens saying proudly that they don't even sleep with the guy if he's under 8 inch? Well at least tell us more about urself so we have a proper a idea. Penis sizes will always be a hot topic and even with all these opinions one can't get precise information about what's the truth, so I just tried to help by pointing out why women need to give more info when firmly claiming a size prefence, otherwise it's just vague and kind of useless....
Don't take it the wrong way guys, it's not an attack on anyone:(
 

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You guys took it the wrong way and got offended lol. I wrote this post coz there is such a huge pressure on guys to perform well and especially on penis size and women always giving opinions I like this, I don't like this, I dumped him coz of small dick, I went back to my ex coz of his 9 inch. Well since it's that important to such an amazing degree of course men will want to know more. And size queens saying proudly that they don't even sleep with the guy if he's under 8 inch? Well at least tell us more about urself so we have a proper a idea. Penis sizes will always be a hot topic and even with all these opinions one can't get precise information about what's the truth, so I just tried to help by pointing out why women need to give more info when firmly claiming a size prefence, otherwise it's just vague and kind of useless....
Don't take it the wrong way guys, it's not an attack on anyone:(

You just got here yesterday and we have a lot of women here, very few speak the way you claim they do. I have yet to see a post on the Women's Issues forum from a woman who is contemplating sleeping with an asshole because he has a big dick. When I think of that kind of mindset I think of barely legal to 21 year old women who have been raised in the "Dick Pic" era where guys inflate the size of their dick constantly. I have no idea what kind of women you are surrounding yourself with. But I've had a lot of female friends, and a hell of a lot more kinky friends than not, and I have yet to come across a woman that has gone back to her ex because of his dick size. Nor have I heard a woman say she wouldn't fuck anything under 9 inches. There are women out there like that I am sure but why are you hanging around them? For every one of them there is a woman who doesn't gauge a man's worth on his penis size. How about surrounding yourself with those types? They are in abundance here, even on a large penis support group site.
 

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I have no idea what kind of women you are surrounding yourself with. But I've had a lot of friends, and a hell of a lot more kinky friends than not, and I have yet to come across a woman that has gone back to her ex because of his dick size. Nor have I heard a woman say she wouldn't fuck anything under 9 inches. There are women out there like that I am sure. But why are you hanging around them? For every one of them there is a woman who doesn't gauge a man's worth on his penis size.
Ditto.

Not one woman I know. Then again, quality women have quality friends!
 

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You just got here yesterday and we have a lot of women here, very few speak the way you claim they do. I have yet to see a post on the Women's Issues forum from a woman who is contemplating sleeping with an asshole because he has a big dick. When I think of that kind of mindset I think of barely legal to 21 year old women who have been raised in the "Dick Pic" era where guys inflate the size of their dick constantly. I have no idea what kind of women you are surrounding yourself with. But I've had a lot of female friends, and a hell of a lot more kinky friends than not, and I have yet to come across a woman that has gone back to her ex because of his dick size. Nor have I heard a woman say she wouldn't fuck anything under 9 inches. There are women out there like that I am sure but why are you hanging around them? For every one of them there is a woman who doesn't gauge a man's worth on his penis size. How about surrounding yourself with those types? They are in abundance here, even on a large penis support group site.

Well there are more of these women then u can imagine, girls dumping guys who they actually like but the only reason they dump them is coz of penins size, how is this factor not amazingly important tell me?
 
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You guys took it the wrong way and got offended lol. I wrote this post coz there is such a huge pressure on guys to perform well and especially on penis size and women always giving opinions I like this, I don't like this, I dumped him coz of small dick, I went back to my ex coz of his 9 inch. Well since it's that important to such an amazing degree of course men will want to know more. And size queens saying proudly that they don't even sleep with the guy if he's under 8 inch? Well at least tell us more about urself so we have a proper a idea. Penis sizes will always be a hot topic and even with all these opinions one can't get precise information about what's the truth, so I just tried to help by pointing out why women need to give more info when firmly claiming a size prefence, otherwise it's just vague and kind of useless....
Don't take it the wrong way guys, it's not an attack on anyone:(
There is such a long list of things that I would prioritize above penis size, whether I was looking for casual sex or a relationship, that penis size, right near the bottom of the list, just becomes irrelevant. I am more likely to judge a man by his shoes even before I get to see his penis. Shoes . Now go and start a thread about what kind of shoes women prefer.
 

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I have no idea how to answer questions that are directed at someone else. A type of woman I've never met. I can't get inside of the brain of a woman who thinks that way. Chances are he pissed her off and she went for a low blow to hurt his ego. If a woman is out to get big dick only and she doesn't get it, I guess some of them could be rude about it. It's likely an immature way to insult the guy.

Find quality women and it likely won't be a problem.
 
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FFS twice in my life that I can think of has dick featured in a conversation with friends. Once because she was getting hurt, the other because it wouldn't stay hard. Sex comes up quite a bit to varying degrees, but I hate to break this to you - we don't sit around talking dick all day.

I'm sceptical that this is behaviour you've experienced first hand. It sounds like you've taken a stereotype and run away with it. Some men on this forum have gone to extreme lengths to try and cajole a size preference out of women here, Rarely do they succeed... and this, as gets pointed out to us frequently when we won't comply, is the Large Penis Support Group. Yet you can't kick a can without hitting a woman who couldn't give a shit about the size of the dick, only the quality of the man. Size is a male-fuelled obsession for the most part. Stop trying to put it on women.
 

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Guys, come one , seriously, if it wasn't that important and all, how can you explain all these penis enlargement forums, all these communities, all these guys making penis exercises every single day, just to gain a damn half and inch to an inch to impress their women, and you're telling me it's not important? Something doesn't add up, if it wasn't important non of these would have been happening and it would've been just another topic. Obviously that's one of the most important things for women when it comes to sex, otherwise all the average and small sized guys around these forums wouldn't be so insecure, and just to mention I am quite big down there, so no I'm not speaking out of personal insecurity, but what I notice happening around is concerning....
If it wasn't important why a well endowed guy is a topic around girls and they always praise him, why a small penis guys are considered almost a second hand person when it comes to sex? Are you kidding me? It doesn't matter?? It matters so much you can't even imagine, don't even get me started, I can give you hundreds of examples why penis size is so so so amazingly important when it comes to sex and women do know that. Well considering how important is this, such a topic shouldn't be much of a surprise for you right?
 
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Good god! Another POS who's convinced we're liars regardless of what we say.
 

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All these studies, researches, resources wasted about finding the average penis size, all this information. DO we have so many studies on boobs size? No, because they are not that important, that's simply the truth. How can you even say it's not important and it doesn't matter with all these facts present.....Guys are obsessing about it for a reason....
 

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Good god! Another POS who's convinced we're liars regardless of what we say.

Well may be you personally are not lying about anything, buy sit down for a minute and explain to me all the facts I stated, why are these things happening? Can you give me a reason? And don't tell me, coz it matters only for men not for women....