Wikileaks has been playing with the cia again i see

[b.c.]

Fuck you. Keep in your own little corner of the Universe with your own little grievances against the world.

This guy has given up his freedom to expose the truth. What have you given up????

No, fuck YOU, asshole. If this s.o.b Assange was interested in exposing the TRUTH as you say, then why is he so SELECTIVE on which truths he chooses to expose? Why is most of the shit he does targeted at America, or select politicians? I'll tell you why. Because like you he's a fucking HYPOCRITE.

This is a different world from what it was, and cyber breaches and hackers are a reality we all must deal with. And frankly if I had my druthers as to whether my correspondence and private information falls into the hands of the CIA or fucking Julian Assange, I think I know which I'D prefer.

So go fuck yourself.

 

[185248]

http://americanmilitarynews.com/201...-probe-alleged-cia-hacking-exposed-wikileaks/

I want you in jail because you demonstrated that I was spying on you. You can spy me, I can't spy you.

CIA has acknowledged that wikileaks are true. It is illegal for the CIA to spy citizens. CIA is not a law enforcement agency. CIA is not a spying agency. All in clear form CIA:
https://www.cia.gov/news-informatio...ive/fact-vs-fiction-debunking-some-myths.html


Actually, it is illegal for the CIA to spy anyone : if you are spying a foreigner, you are committing a crime according to the foreigner' law. So, CIA has been doing what shouldn't do, and no one sees a problem in this?

Now, I would like to know what the hell has to do with a terroristic attack Merkel' phone. Let's not be naive please.

May I ask: who CIA represents? Who defends? The People? The Government?

I don't want anyone knows everything about me in aevery moment. Hell, I don't even allow myself to know everything about me. Private space is a basic human need. You create monsters deleting that space.

The CIA was here before a US government. Because everything needed to be done in secrecy before there was a US government to create a US government.

Everything since the beginning is known to those who have the power. It's pretty simple.

 

[185248]

No, fuck YOU, asshole. If this s.o.b Assange was interested in exposing the TRUTH as you say, then why is he so SELECTIVE on which truths he chooses to expose? Why is most of the shit he does targeted at America, or select politicians? I'll tell you why. Because like you he's a fucking HYPOCRITE.

This is a different world from what it was, and cyber breaches and hackers are a reality we all must deal with. And frankly if I had my druthers as to whether my correspondence and private information falls into the hands of the CIA or fucking Julian Assange, I think I know which I'D prefer.

So go fuck yourself.

Because your arsehole government wishes to control everything in this world. What the Fuck.............your CIA hires the best hackers in the world for huge sums of money. Assange did not want your money dickwad, your government has paid off despot governments, terrorists and the like, that's the truth. He wanted the truth exposed. He did not want your money. Shame on him.

He lives in hiding because he picked on your beloved CIA............good on him.

The CIA is so huge it does not need you, the American people. It protects itself. It's like an inner Vatican of the US.

Do you think it needs 300,000,000 million out of 325,000,000 ?

Like China, do you think they could do with a Billion less???

 

[marinera]

Cool down guys or I'll hacker your cellphones.

 

[deleted15807]

If anyone still has doubts that Wikileaks and the Russians are working together to undermine and destabilize th US government institutions, erode public confidence in our government, and generally wreak havoc in the US, this latest document dump should erase all doubt. We are under attack by an adversarial nation, with a President here at the helm who seems not to take any of this seriously.

Spy agencies spy, this should come as no shock -- this is how they infiltrate potential terrorist plots against the US. We are less safe today thanks to Wikileaks and Assange's unholy alliance with Putin..

 

[Perados]

If you're trying to equate intelligence gathering and surveillance to "the torture of billions" then you're being ridiculous.

First of all, it was you who started to talk about "good guys" preventing terror attacks... that's exactly the same argumentation as from those guys who support torture.
So, why not compare it?

Second, both cases are morally wrong and in both cases you get forced to give informations you aren't willing to give.

The only difference is, one is painful the other one secret.

And yes there is the possibility of abuses of it and using it to search for political opposition, although more often than not, political opponents (here) are quite vocal in their opposition and don't require a lot of intelligence gathering to find. Anyone who thinks otherwise is living in a fool's paradise.

Government use of surveillance for political prosecution isn't happening, not in America at least ... not YET. Although in TRUMP'S America, who knows? Anything's possible.

and you have no problem with it?

Barring that, my position on the subject remains unchanged from that which I've already stated here LONG ago. That is, it's up to us as a society to decide what degree of surveillance is NECESSARY in order to better ensure our safety, and whether that is going to be an acceptable trade off.

Many tend to be critical of it, until some act of terrorism occurs, after which they start asking why didn't someone know in advance?

yeah.... that's why a discussion is needed.


Sure, many will support intelligence work, if they are victims of a terror attack... but in the same way will people support privace, if they are victims of intelligence work. Just think about how many people are on the no fly list, but haven't done anything wrong...

And who knows, maybe in 10 years you start to wonder that you don't get a job, by having the best qualifications... damn intelligence work

 

[b.c.]

Julian Assange is the man b.c. needs to thank. Because if it were not for people like him, the internet as we know it now would be a very different place.

I don't have to thank Assange for a DAMN thing, CHAMP. AMERICA can thank that hypocrite fkr for targeting a Democratic candidate and working in collusion with a foreign government to influence the election. We can thank him for Donald TRUMP. So as usual the voice from "down under" has MUCH to say about that which he has LITTLE or NO stake in.

 

[Industrialsize]

Because your arsehole government wishes to control everything in this world. What the Fuck.............your CIA hires the best hackers in the world for huge sums of money. Assange did not want your money dickwad, your government has paid off despot governments, terrorists and the like, that's the truth. He wanted the truth exposed. He did not want your money. Shame on him.

He lives in hiding because he picked on your beloved CIA............good on him.

The CIA is so huge it does not need you, the American people. It protects itself. It's like an inner Vatican of the US.

Do you think it needs 300,000,000 million out of 325,000,000 ?

Like China, do you think they could do with a Billion less???

In November 2010, a request was made for Assange's extradition to Sweden, where he had been questioned months earlier over allegations of sexual assault and rape.[5] Assange continued to deny the allegations, and expressed concern that he would be extradited from Sweden to the United States due to his perceived role in publishing secret American documents.[6][7] Assange surrendered himself to UK police on 7 December 2010 and was held for ten days in solitary confinement before being released on bail. Assange sought and was granted asylum by Ecuador in August 2012. Assange has since remained in the Embassy of Ecuador in London, and is unable to leave without being arrested for breaching his bail conditions.[

 

[deleted15807]

I don't have to thank Assange for a DAMN thing, CHAMP. AMERICA can thank that hypocrite fkr for targeting a Democratic candidate and working in collusion with a foreign government to influence the election. We can thank him for Donald TRUMP. So as usual the voice from "down under" has MUCH to say about that which he has LITTLE or NO stake in.

Yes totally down the memory hole how Assange hated Hillary and worked actively throughout the campaign to sink her. Maybe he has a fondness for other sexual predators like himself.

 

[b.c.]

First of all, it was you who started to talk about "good guys" preventing terror attacks... that's exactly the same argumentation as from those guys who support torture.
So, why not compare it?

Because it's a bogus comparison and a ridiculous straw man argument. No one is making an argument in support of torture.

 

[185248]

Sure you don't, he did not accept your intelligence organisations terms to co-operate.

He does not give a rats arse about who is your President. Your President, if you have not woken up to the fact by now is not in charge.

As you have admitted the CIA investigation and allegations were enough to persuade voting.

In other words......The CIA holds power over who is President and sways public opinion.

Look at the central cause of the power shifts. One rumour, one leaked rumour from intelligence organisations can throw havoc into a supposed democratic election. You say it help lose your beloved Hilary the election?

Who cares who wins. Who is the major player in all of this.................The CIA.

The people Julian Assange has being trying to expose as your true leaders.

You really think a nutter such as Donald Trump was put there if the CIA had nothing on him??

 

[marinera]

Yeah yeah, Assange is a rapist (according to USA Government, so that must be true). But fact remains, what he has siad is true. That is more scary than him being a rapist IMO.

 

[b.c.]

Sure you don't, he did not accept your intelligence organisations terms to co-operate.

He does not give a rats arse about who is your President. Your President, if you have not woken up to the fact by now is not in charge.

As you have admitted the CIA investigation and allegations were enough to persuade voting.

In other words......The CIA holds power over who is President and sways public opinion.

Look at the central cause of the power shifts. One rumour, one leaked rumour from intelligence organisations can throw havoc into a supposed democratic election.

Who cares who wins. Who is the major player in all of this.................The CIA.

Your responses have devolved into the borderline moronic now. Here. Here's something a little closer to "HOME" for you chew on, seeing as you're so concerned about surveillance:

Australian Government To Create A Cyber-Intelligence Unit | Dark Web News

 

[Perados]

Because it's a bogus comparison and a ridiculous straw man argument. No one is making an argument in support of torture.

Why not?

You don't support torture?
Your arguement was "if intelligency work prevents terror attacks, it's a good thing" - isn't torture good, if it prevents terror? It's by 100% the same argumentation.
Why support this arguement in one case, but not in the other one?

In both cases you get forced to give informations you aren't willing to give.
In both cases innocent people will become victims.

There are only two differences.
1. Different to torture, to get observed isn't painful. Might be embracing and you could get a mental problem, but not painful (btw torture doesn't has to be painful as well - so, maybe both is even more equal as I thought)
2. Different to intelligence work, you know when you get tortured and can act against it.


Both is wrong and can't get justified by "more safety", even more so when any proof is missing

 

[b.c.]

Why not?

You don't support torture?
Your arguement was "if intelligency work prevents terror attacks, it's a good thing" - isn't torture good, if it prevents terror? It's by 100% the same argumentation.
Why support this arguement in one case, but not in the other one?

In both cases you get forced to give informations you aren't willing to give.
In both cases innocent people will become victims.

There are only to differences.
1. Different to torture, to get observed isn't painful.
2. Different to intelligence work, you know when you get tortured and can act against it.


Both is wrong and can't get justified by "more safety", even more so when any proof is missing

For one there is no evidence that suggests torture prevents terrorism or even produces reliable information. Some studies in fact demonstrate the OPPOSITE.

Beyond that, there is no (sensibly logical) rationale to bring it up... none that makes torture comparable to overhearing, via clandestine monitoring, that terrorists, perhaps located in YOUR hometown, for example, are planning to board the next flight out and blow it the HELL out of the sky.

So you TOO are being equally ridiculous now, and having stated my opinion (as you've YOURS) I have nothing further to say to you.

 

[185248]

Your responses have devolved into the borderline moronic now. Here. Here's something a little closer to "HOME" for you chew on, seeing as you're so concerned about surveillance:

Australian Government To Create A Cyber-Intelligence Unit | Dark Web News

Old news.

Borderline moronic? This from a person who lives in the country where Donald Trump is your supreme leader.

 

[b.c.]

Old news.

Borderline moronic? This from a person who lives in the country where Donald Trump is your supreme leader.

correction... no LONGER "borderline."

 

[185248]

correction... no LONGER "borderline."

Do you really find it necessary to place your posts in bold? Or is it your desperate wish to stand out above everyone else?

Yes, I am a moron.

You believe what the CIA tells you, yet you didn't believe what the CIA told you, yet you believe what the CIA tells you.

You are totally coherent.

I believe the CIA has a held a hand in all of your doings.

That about sums it up.

 

[marinera]

There are no studies showing that spying everybody' sms and storing the content forever prevents terrorism either. There can't be any 'study' on both things. Point is, CIA is unlawfully spying you (and me too). I am really surprised that Americans are not worried of that.

 

[185248]

There are no studies showing that spying everybody' sms and storing the content forever prevents terrorism either. There can't be any 'study' on both things. Point is, CIA is unlawfully spying you (and me too). I am really surprised that Americans are not worried of that.

Just type into your device Pine Gap 10 times. Just try it. Cause I am curious

Everything is done on tag words these days. You have to remember marinera. Intelligence organisations look at everything, absolutely everything to gain information.