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Will Bush get his man before he goes?

Discussion in 'Et Cetera, Et Cetera' started by Drifterwood, Oct 26, 2008.

  1. Drifterwood

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    It was predicted here some time ago, that George W would be desperate to get Bin Laden before the end of his rule. It was even suggested that he always knew where he was, but would wait to achieve a grand finale.

    Is the escalation of incursions into sovereign States an indicator of this, albeit without actually knowing where he is clearly (Pakistan is some way from Syria).

    Will George have his Roman Triumphal Procession?
     
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    We may have known the whole time where he is and use him for gathering intelligence.

    We may have killed him long ago and don’t know it

    He may have died and we don’t know it
     
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    oh!

    to know!
     
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    It would be better for Bush, if he actually knew all along, to act as if he didn't. To let America degrade to the level that it has just to have a "grand finale" is just selfish and completely unpatriotic.

    Even if he did manage to catch Bin Laden before he left office, there's still so many bad marks on his presidency that it would make his "victory" look somewhat insignificant.
     
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    I get the feeling..NO
     
  6. Phil Ayesho

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    Bush is not after Bin Laden... the military might be... but the Bush family has LONG ties to the Bin Laden family.

    Bush's best friend from his National Guard days- the guy whose name was redacted from Bush's service records, was the go between that funneled Bin Laden family money into W's Arbusto oil company...

    Set that? A SAUDI oil family investing in a jerkwater Texas drilling company that never found any oil?

    Why? Because his DADDY was VP? And then President?

    The Bush administration took pains to get ALL Bin Laden money and family members out of the US after 9/11 without so much as an interview....

    Because Bush knew full well that any in depth investigation would show not only that the family gave lots of money to Osama- but also reveal all the money the family gave to Bush.


    Come to think of it... he might be trying to kill Osama... just to close that chapter for good...
    But he sure as hell doesn't want the guy CAPTURED.
     
  7. D_Ivana Dickenside

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    bush can keep dreaming because it isn't gonna happen. if he seriously wanted to find bin laden by now he would have.
     
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    Eew I dont wanna think about Bush dreaming of Bin Laden. Bet he wakes up with a boner!
     
  9. D_Ivana Dickenside

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    hahahahahhahaaha :biggrin1:
     
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    He doesnt seem like a hero on the way out to me, more like havoc to save face.
     
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    At this point. I doubt bush can find his teeth.
     
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    WRONG!! about the "at this point". he could never find his own teeth.
    could'nt find his asshole with both hands.
     
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    I have long believed that they know where Bin Laden is and are merely keeping him 'on hold' until a day or 2 before the election. That way Bush can look like a conquering hero and McCain will win the election.

    :frown1: Don't laugh it's just crazy enough to work. :aargh4:
     
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    If Bush had wanted to he could have found Bin Ladin long ago. Way back he said he'd find him no matter what. Remember those speeches of his after 9/11? So much for good soundin words.
     
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    Poor Phil …. In his well-known impertinence of reality Phil always looks for conspiracy theories and actually believes them to be reality. Maybe Phil can look into Jimmy Carter and the bin Laden family for starters in his quest towards actual reality and it doesn’t stop here …

    ABC News: Bin Laden's Family Embraced Capitalism
     
  16. Phil Ayesho

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    So what if the Saudi's are capitalists?
    Sure they are- there's big money in oil and bigger money in buying influence with the Bush family- just ask Halliburton how well that 35 million in stock they gave Cheney paid off for them.

    Financing terrorism IS capitalism, at its finest. YOu want your agenda moved forward, but don't want to be the one doing it- you secretly finance others to do the nasty parts for you. Ask the CIA about Chile.

    And- maybe you are missing this about recent events.... CAPITALISM is the BAD GUY.
    IT uses wealth to seek unrestrained power and freedom from oversight... left unchecked, captialism is Disasterous for 98% of the populace- every time.


    Besides...
    Saying shit ain't proving it. Your total ignorance of what has gone on, and what is going on is plainly evident in the idiotic republican talking points you parrot like a well trained rube.

    Facts are facts and you can FIND the unredacted version of Bush's AWOL report that was first sourced BEFORE 9/11-
    Bush didn't have his buddy's name on it redacted until after the attack ( pretty solid proof he had no foreknowledge of any attack)


    ITs not a conspiracy theory.... His family has financial ties to Saudi money- and particularly Bin Laden money. Its WELL DOCUMENTED.

    Why do you suppose it is that 15 of 19 hijackers were Saudi, and yet there has not been ANY investigation of Saudi financing and involvement of Al Queda?


    Al Queda is a Wahabist movement- Saudi Arabia is the SEAT of Wahabism and Saudi sheiks the ONLY muslims in the world financing Wahabist sectarian causes.

    Andthe FBI did not question a single member of the Bin Laden family- If YOUR brother commited a mass murder... donlt you think the police would want to aks you you , say, if you knew where your brother might be? At least?

    Instead, when no one in America could fly- Bush chartered 13 jets to fly all Saudi's out of the country... and prevented any questioning of any one of them.
    BEFORE he did SHIT about OUR safety... he made Sure Saudi and Bin Laden assets in the US were not frozen and could be moved off-shore.


    This is not to say he was party to 9/11- just that you can tell by his actions who his FRIENDS are.

    He has AVOIDED getting Osama because once they got Osama they would have no boogieman to scare America into continuing the war they want to wage for entirely unrelated reasons...

    He sneaked the Bin Laden's out of the States and censored public documents to cover his families close ties to the Bin Laden family...
    The last thing he needed on 9/12 was FBI investigators asking the Bin Laden's about their finances.

    BTW- Bush- as governor of Texas, ALSO hosted a delegation from the Taliban.



    Seriously- pull your head out of the elephant's ass and INVESTIGATE the actions of the people you put blind faith in.

    Watch the Film- WHY WE FIGHT- and LEARN something about how this nation has become the militaristic and bankrupt empirical bully it has become.
     
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    A saying comes to mind: Never suspect conspiracy when incompetence will do.

    Bush has had many, many occasions in the last four years in which the prestige boost of catching bin Laden would help him greatly. Especially in the last two years, he's gotten almost nothing done. Catching Osama would at least slightly salvage his reputation, so if he could, he probably would have by now.
     
  18. Drifterwood

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    I doubt it, but he did manage to settle the score with the man who tried to kill his Daddy, thus killing the only man (albeit a dictator) with the ablility to keep the country together and prosperous and plunged the nation into war on the strenght of a lie, beggar 2 nations (USA and Iraq) in the process, and used the dead of 9/11 to pull off the mother of all personal vendettas.
    The Man should be on trial for war crimes.
     
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    There is zero wrong with Dick Cheney running a company and getting paid for it. Funny you mention him all the time but never democrats with the exact same or even much sweeter deals.



    Umm yep! That’s exactly what we do just like just about every other country on the planet does. No news story here.

    And which system are you claiming is better? Oh that’s right, there isn’t one in history that competes = ask Russia and China.

    Saying shit without proving it is 99% of the mostly ridiculous banter that comes from your keyboard. You might wanna think of something you are not guilty of before complaining about somebody else doing the same thing.

    And talk about being a “parrot” …. Umm the ultra leftwing and the conspiracy theorists certainly have a friend in you lol.

    What the fuck is this?



    Umm yep, Bush has clear ties to the bin Laden family just like many others in America including many democrats like Jimmy Carter = no news story here.

    I think you missed these actions because they do not fit in with your many baseless conspiracy theories.



    The family is clearly on record on this matter.

    They were flown out to protect them from hysterical lynch mobs and I expect you would have been right at the front of the pack. It’s not like protecting innocents from lynch mobs is a new thing in this country.



    Again, just a baseless conspiracy theory.


    Bush has never covered up his ties with the family, you may get some to believe this garbage but you ain’t selling it here.



    And what was the basis for/result of this meeting again?



    Don’t pretend I put blind faith into anything.



    Never heard of it but I’ll assume if you are endorsing it the film is likely Michael Moore style crap.
     
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    The justification is different from the concept of pre-emption the administration articulated immediately after the Sept. 11 attacks, and which was used as the rationale for the invasion of Iraq. While pre-emption was used to justify attacks against governments and their armies, the self-defense argument would justify attacks on insurgents operating on foreign soil that threatened the forces, allies or interests of the United States.

    Administration officials pointed Monday to a passage in President Bush’s speech to the United NationsGeneral Assembly last month as the clearest articulation of this position to date.

    “As sovereign states, we have an obligation to govern responsibly, and solve problems before they spill across borders,” Mr. Bush said. “We have an obligation to prevent our territory from being used as a sanctuary for terrorism and proliferation and human trafficking and organized crime.”
     
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    WOW! The tinfoil hat is shinning on this one! Please don’t pretend Saddam is the only one “with the ability to keep” Iraq ”together and prosperous”. Prosperous as in his dirty deals with Russia and France in the oil-for-food thingy amongst many others and/or his horrific actions against his own people are hardly worthy of the merit you instill on that former piece-of-human-shit.

    And this alleged lie? What lie would this be? I’ll be waiting for your answer and save us both some time by not rehashing garbage in the form of yet another conspiracy theory = facts only please.
     
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    Both statements here show how clueless a vast percentage of people are regarding reality.

    How many people that made these statements have crawled in caves actually looking for OBL......hmmm?

    Bush doesn't gather Intel, it's passed up to him.

    I am no fan of Bush, but making statements like this without knowing how things really works is nothing short of trying to look intellegent by hopping on the bandwagon of bashing the president. You people may want to look at a map and see how large these countries actually are. Nevermind the various vast amounts of caves, tunnels etc. Then look at the number of us that have been deployed.

    Clueless.
     
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    You're absolutely right...and not only that, we would find that Bush and Cheney and the entire U.S. military complex were the ones that were complient in the attacks and masterminded the whole thing right along with Osama..well maybe not "dumbfuck" Bush...no..he was told to sit right in that classroom, stay out of the way, and shut the fuck up.
    Then they sold Bin Laden out and hid behind him because it fit their agenda...Just like Saddam
    The Bin Laden family were allowed to leave the country in closed airspace while the towers were still burning.
    If there was nothing to hide and Bin Laden acted alone in the attacks, do you let his family go ANYWHERE? FUCK NO..
    you interogate the shit out of them...maybe torture too.
    But what did they tell us? Oh right, that the Bin Laden family disowned and seperated themselves from him because he was so "mavericky". LOL
    So they let them leave. WHAT FUCKING BULLSHIT!!
     
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    Thank you for reading the linked article 1bigg1.

    So, GW and the CIA are responsible for the policy. Do they get Carte Blanche to decide who is to be taken out in this manner? To whom will they have to answer?

    It seems to me that they just cry Al Qaeda whenever they want to do anything, whereas the unnamed target would better be described as a smuggler profiting from the Sunni Shia situation.

    Anyway, Syria will retaliate if further old scores are settled in this manner. Let's see just how many wars GW can start before he goes.
     
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    There is no Al Qaeda
    It's all made up bullshit... a smokescreen, someone to blame everything on to continue the "War On Terror" oooohh... I'm scared.
    Oh I forgot to mention, the CIA were involved in the 9/11 attacks too.
    Gee..what happened to building 7..(you know) CIA headquarters?
    The building came right down by itself huh?
    Funny.. there was no fire to melt steel, but it came down anyway.
    Can you say ..CONTROLLED DEMOLITION?
     
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  27. D_VictorVikkiTielVictoria

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    I bet you're gonna vote for McCain too..right?
    If you do..who's the clueless one?
     
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    The only thing Bush has had recently is a brain tumor for breakfast.
     
  29. D_Marazion Analdouche

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    Nope not voting for McCain.

    Just because I know what the reality is regarding searching for terrorists now makes me a republican? People here sure do love to toss around labels.
     
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