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Well that's all very interesting but actually says, well, nothing at all really.
It says that there are far more Guardians than you've probably heard of. The US is a big country with tens of thousands of independent newspapers, and they're not all named the Times, the Post, the News, the Tribune, or the Picayune Intelligence.
I only know of one (former) Manchester Guardian and I don't think the Middleton and North Manchester Guardian counts, not really.
That's why I call it the Manchester Guardian; because it isn't the others. Those ones you haven't heard of, in particular. A not-too-obscure Manchester Guardian native to the US was never commonly referred to as such, solely to avoid confusion with the more famous English one - a nicety I don't see much virtue in abandoning now, solely because of a capricious name change in England.
So, out of interest if for no other reason; to which Manchester Guardian do you refer when you do? Or does it vary depending on your current level of capriciousnous?
Don't be obtuse. My level of capriciousness is an invariant.
 

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It says that there are far more Guardians than you've probably heard of. The US is a big country with tens of thousands of independent newspapers, and they're not all named the Times, the Post, the News, the Tribune, or the Picayune Intelligence.

Well, who'da thunk it? What with me being a dumb Brit from an island the size of the average American backyard and all.:rolleyes:

That's why I call it the Manchester Guardian; because it isn't the others. Those ones you haven't heard of, in particular. A not-too-obscure Manchester Guardian native to the US was never commonly referred to as such, solely to avoid confusion with the more famous English one - a nicety I don't see much virtue in abandoning now, solely because of a capricious name change in England.

See, it's easy. I ask a question you give an answer, mostly.

Yes, I assumned so but and was seeking confirmation of what I said earlier, nevertheless it's nice to have a hypothesis confirmed. To be fair, I don't actually think the name change was capricious or intended to put the aformentioned, (rarely referred to as such) Manchester Guardian's nose out of joint, I mean, being British and rarely called such I doubt they had even heard of it. I suspect it was merely to reflect it's more national coverage. But then, not having been born at the time, that's not an idea founded on first hand knowledge.

Don't be obtuse. My level of capriciousness is an invariant.

Good, just so we're straight.
 

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Yeah, because Fox is so one-sided. You know why I appreciate Fox?? Because it is CLEAR where it stands... unlike the major media outlets (ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN) as well as "public" outlets like NPR (LLLLLLLLLLaughable so left-leaning it's hilarious)...yet they under the guise of being "nuetral". Good to see them being exposed. I don't mind it... just call a spade a spade. CBS should just go the Fox route and make themselves a leftie-known outlet... and stop lying to the American public on subjective un-biased journalism.

You guys need to stop wasting your breath on calling out Fox. Righties know what it is, and that's why they watch it. The "fair and balanced" is more tongue n' cheek vs actual meaning.
Well as far as the 1st few words here, that is maybe not so much a question as a statement .
Anyway I have always thought of Fox News as being far less conservative that other news channels such as CNN and especially BBC World

I quite like CCTV 9 (especially how the presenters names keep changing) and Tomorrow Today.

Anyway just heard Jerry Falwell has snuffed it. I suppose that means he wasn't.
 

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Yes, I assumned so but and was seeking confirmation of what I said earlier, nevertheless it's nice to have a hypothesis confirmed. To be fair, I don't actually think the name change was capricious or intended to put the aformentioned, (rarely referred to as such) Manchester Guardian's nose out of joint, I mean, being British and rarely called such I doubt they had even heard of it. I suspect it was merely to reflect it's more national coverage.
Well, things are tough when one's preferred name, Pravda, is already taken. They'd still have needed to work Manchester in there somewhere.