Will Trumps Incompetence Doom Him?

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Interesting video pointing out how Trump' s lack of competence has hindered his ability to get anything done during his presidency.

I remember before his election, his supporters seemed to think he was a genius political tactician, who played 4D chess while his opponents played checkers. It doesn't seem to be like that anymore.

What do you guys think?
 

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Interesting video pointing out how Trump' s lack of competence has hindered his ability to get anything done during his presidency.

I remember before his election, his supporters seemed to think he was a genius political tactician, who played 4D chess while his opponents played checkers. It doesn't seem to be like that anymore.

What do you guys think?

Generally I agree his incompetence has hurt him more than anything - the DACA case is but the latest example. However he has been enormously successful - he has gutted the courts for two generations. We may never recover from that alone. He has gutted the Western alliances. The U.S. is no longer considered a reliable partner. He has made Putin more powerful in Europe and the Middle East and that will have dire consequences for a long time. China owns our nuts thanks to him. He has emboldened tyrants and hurt democracy and all of our allies to some degree. His incompetence is a side show for a diversion from what he has actually accomplished.

Amazingly his base is still fairly solid. He is, despite the polls still well positioned to win.
 

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Generally I agree his incompetence has hurt him more than anything - the DACA case is but the latest example. However he has been enormously successful - he has gutted the courts for two generations. We may never recover from that alone. He has gutted the Western alliances. The U.S. is no longer considered a reliable partner. He has made Putin more powerful in Europe and the Middle East and that will have dire consequences for a long time. China owns our nuts thanks to him. He has emboldened tyrants and hurt democracy and all of our allies to some degree. His incompetence is a side show for a diversion from what he has actually accomplished.

Amazingly his base is still fairly solid. He is, despite the polls still well positioned to win.

Outside of gutting the courts, I don't think anyone would consider those things accomplishments.
 
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Outside of gutting the courts, I don't think anyone would consider those things accomplishments.

It is what he has done, it is accomplished. It is what the right has dreamed of for generations. They are not good things for most Americans, but this is what his accomplishments actually are.
 
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Election is still far ahead considering how things just happen nowadays and how stupid some (most?) Americans can be. If Dems take over the senate--which is more likely to happen--he'll be impeached soon after getting reelected anyway. Win or lose, he's doomed.
 

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Election is still far ahead considering how things just happen nowadays and how stupid some (most?) Americans can be. If Dems take over the senate--which is more likely to happen--he'll be impeached soon after getting reelected anyway. Win or lose, he's doomed.

I doubt seriously that even If we did take the senate, the votes to convict are not going to be there if he was re-elected.
 
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His incompetence is largely irrelevant to his supporters. He is a figurehead of their (perceived) struggles against liberals, the media, political correctness, and coercive pressures to leftist groupthink. The more he struggles, the more they see themselves in him.

they’ll only abandon him when it becomes hopeless to continue supporting him.
 
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His incompetence is largely irrelevant to his supporters. He is a figurehead of their (perceived) struggles against liberals, the media, political correctness, and coercive pressures to leftist groupthink. The more he struggles, the more they see themselves in him.

they’ll only abandon him when it becomes hopeless to continue supporting him.

And struggles against Mexico.

That statement never mind it was a lie in June 2015 is what pushed him to the top in the republican primaries which he has held since.
 

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His incompetence is largely irrelevant to his supporters. He is a figurehead of their (perceived) struggles against liberals, the media, political correctness, and coercive pressures to leftist groupthink. The more he struggles, the more they see themselves in him.

they’ll only abandon him when it becomes hopeless to continue supporting him.

There is definitely a group that will support him no matter what, however I think that group is shrinking as time goes on.
 

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There is definitely a group that will support him no matter what, however I think that group is shrinking as time goes on.

They're old, they're dying, but their idiot grandchildren replace them. I am shocked daily by some of the shit kids I know who I thought were bright, compassionate and well friended with numerous minority friends put up of social media. It is soul crushing to see it.
 

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They're old, they're dying, but their idiot grandchildren replace them. I am shocked daily by some of the shit kids I know who I thought were bright, compassionate and well friended with numerous minority friends put up of social media. It is soul crushing to see it.

I saw on the news today that the elderly and middle class are leaving Trump behind. I've also heard that evangelicals are becoming more disenchanted with Trump due to recent Supreme Court decisions. I think his support base is really shrinking.
 

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I saw on the news today that the elderly and middle class are leaving Trump behind. I've also heard that evangelicals are becoming more disenchanted with Trump due to recent Supreme Court decisions. I think his support base is really shrinking.

I hope that is true, but I'll believe it when I see real votes. The Tulsa flop was a hopeful sign, but it is not definitive, but what you are saying is a glimmer of hope. Only a glimmer, but a start.
 

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Gonna be fun when he is President for the second term. Ya'll gonna need more crying towels. lolololololol.

MAGA

I'm sure he will present the participation trophy's at the Shuffleboard Banquet at Naples Croquet and Lawn Bowling over on Pine Ridge. Make sure you unhook the trailer and get there early for a good seat. You know how tough it is with the early birds!!!
 
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