WINNING Strategy For Dealing With Enticing Straight Guys!

[HungBtmVegas]

Don't.

That straight friend/coworker/guy at the gym doesn't like you. If he does and knows you're gay/bi, he'd say something or make an obvious gesture. You guys' posts about "How Do I Get My Straight Friend To Have Sex With Me?" or similar is creepy and frankly, I hope they find out you're asking strangers how to manipulate them into sex because you're all predators.

 

[longstroke7]

Don't.

That straight friend/coworker/guy at the gym doesn't like you. If he does and knows you're gay/bi, he'd say something or make an obvious gesture. You guys' posts about "How Do I Get My Straight Friend To Have Sex With Me?" or similar is creepy and frankly, I hope they find out you're asking strangers how to manipulate them into sex because you're all predators.

Thank you. I've said for years now that there are a lot of sexual predators on here and how openly people admit it and some of their public behaviors has been disturbing.

 

[rockmusl1]

Isn’t there a predatory aspect to all searches for sex? I’m not talking forcible sex, but seduction, or attempted seduction? I get what you’re saying, but everyone has some degree of agency here. The straight men I know (Gay ones too, for that matter) do know how to say “Thank you but I’m not interested.”

 

[bigboaster]

Isn’t there a predatory aspect to all searches for sex? I’m not talking forcible sex, but seduction, or attempted seduction? I get what you’re saying, but everyone has some degree of agency here. The straight men I know (Gay ones too, for that matter) do know how to say “Thank you but I’m not interested.”

I would not describe the average sexual conquest as predatory at all. That feels like a watering down of the word to me.

I don't like how it is often used by zealous feminists to describe the normal behavior of straight men seeking sex/romance from women. Too many normal actions taken by men are now deemed "creepy" or inappropriate when that isn't accurate.

On the flip side. Straight men who instead seek out known lesbians as opposed to a straight woman are rightfully called out as creepy or predatory because there is an element of coercion expected there or conquest of the forbidden.

And the inverse of that (gay men seeking out known straight men) is equally is creepy imho.

 

[rockmusl1]

I don’t disagree with you.

 

[dreamer20]

WINNING Strategy For Dealing With Enticing Straight Guys!​

^^I noted the title statement leads the reader to expect advice pertaining to:
how to deal with straight guys who are enticing them - as opposed to the reader(s) doing the enticing. That title should be edited to "Winning Strategy for Seducing Straight Guys!" IMO.

Don't.
That straight friend/coworker/guy at the gym doesn't like you. If he does and knows you're gay/bi, he'd say something or make an obvious gesture. You guys' posts about "How Do I Get My Straight Friend To Have Sex With Me?" or similar is creepy and frankly, I hope they find out you're asking strangers how to manipulate them into sex because you're all predators.

It is possible for one to be liked by friends/co-workers/guys at the gym. Yet, speaking in accord with you, regardless of gender and sexual orientation, a person making unwanted sexual advances/groping would be committing sexual harrassment/sexual assault. And I have consistently spoken out against those contemplating this and/or getting their intended victim drunk/ drugged in order to have their wicked way with them.

Having Feelings for your Housemate

 

[rockmusl1]

I’ve never understood the allure of drugging someone in order to “have sex” with them. Where’s the pleasure in sexual contact with someone who’s been rendered a temporary corpse?

 

[alpha_centauri]

Don't.

That straight friend/coworker/guy at the gym doesn't like you. If he does and knows you're gay/bi, he'd say something or make an obvious gesture. You guys' posts about "How Do I Get My Straight Friend To Have Sex With Me?" or similar is creepy and frankly, I hope they find out you're asking strangers how to manipulate them into sex because you're all predators.

I think a lot of what gets written on here and other Sites or forums like JUB, and others is either desperate and young adult, not out gay and bisexual guys who are celibate or perhaps virgins, horny/desperate, etc. Or it is just erotic fiction.

No I never did this with friends who are actually hetero/straight, or with friends who thought they are hetero/straight and later told me how they are gay or bisexual. When I was a teenager I was watching a film with a friend who is gay and deeply closeted and he tried to get me to have sex with him and I did not as we were friends at the time and it was really weird and I think at the time he was dating a girl from our school who was treating him like a dog on a leash and she wound up cheating on him.

 

[Alditra]

Isn't sex always predatory? Even love, that ended up in sex? What the differences with str8 falling or lust to a girl then makes a move to em so he can fuck her in the end? Even relationships or even married is full of transactional lol, just with commitment

 

[HungBtmVegas]

Isn't sex always predatory? Even love, that ended up in sex? What the differences with str8 falling or lust to a girl then makes a move to em so he can fuck her in the end? Even relationships or even married is full of transactional lol, just with commitment

No, sex is not supposed to be predatory. Who hurt you?

 

[Alditra]

No, sex is not supposed to be predatory. Who hurt you?

I know the difference, predatory is when ugly people wanna have sex with good looking but of course the good looking don't want it, but when good looking ask for sex and they say yes then that's not predatory, becos the two of em want it

 

[bigboaster]

No.... Just no.

 

[Eez1]

I of course agree with this statement, to a degree. You should NEVER sexually harass anyone of any sexual orientation. Take everything I say with a grain of salt. However, I slightly believe no one is 100% straight. Heterosexuality is the "normal" thing to be, so everyone is I guess I will use the word "conditioned" into being straight, boys being told to like girls and vice versa from the moment they are born. After years of being told boys should like girls and girls should like boys, some people think they can not like whoever they want due to societal/religious/any other norms. So they repress any "gay" feelings they may have. Because that is not what society wants them to do. Which is also why so many more women are more open to being bisexual/exploring their sexuality because women in society are given much more emotional freedom than men are. It's not that men do not want to explore their sexuality it's just that they are told to not feel any emotion and whatnot. Which is why so many men experiment with other men later in life (after being married, having sex with only women, etc) because you can only repress the curiosity for so long. I do agree, a lot of men approach the whole "seducing a straight man" completely wrong. They are much too aggressive and what most of them do is sexual harassment. I believe if you take a much more slow and subtle approach, you have a better success rate.

There was this guy I used to work with a couple of years ago, he was "straight" had a GF when I first started, he told me about a few of his sexual experiences (with women), would tell me what women he thought were hot, etc. I was never interested in him romantically, but I did think he was attractive. The only thing I ever did to him was VERY light and casual flirting, I would call him handsome, maybe make an obviously inappropriate sexual JOKE, things like that, that I am sure all friends do with each other. Sometime he would return the compliments, again just a "You are handsome, too." Nothing crazy, and again I am sure all male and female friends do this with each other. Anyway, after about two years of working together HE started sexting me over Snapchat, sending pics and videos of his cock and I would return the favor. We did not talk it at work, or even mention it at all. Just two guys having a bit of fun. I never asked to do anything sexual in person to him, mainly because I was shy. But if I had to guess he probably would have let me suck him off, maybe even have sex. We sexted off and on for about a year, I think he has a gf now. Point is, you never really know someone's sexuality, I tried telling myself I was not gay for years. (I am attracted to women, just not really emotionally attracted to them, so I call myself gay) I think you just need to take a more tactful approach to seeing what a "straight" guy likes. Yes, I know not 100% of men or women are not gay/bi.

 

[Evenflow618]

Just stay in your community

 

[Neijo]

Don't.

Bro I was about to get mad when I read the title and was ready to give you a lecture, but this post wins

 

[halcyondays]

People are consumers. It begins with "I want to have..."

We consume everything including relationships, sex, marriage, family, friends, entertainment, politics, religion, education, careers, recreation, energy, transportation and health care not mention housing and everything we put in our homes.

We are material animals in a material world.

Now I'll speak from personal experience.

People think I'm straight. A regular or someone new at the gym takes an interest in me. We talk. We spot each other at the bench and continue to talk using other equipment. Is he chatting me up or just being friendly? IDK. He changes when I do, follows me outside and asks for my number. If I'm interested I'll exchange numbers. If not, not. Substitute she for he for women who have done the same.

If I'm initiating then I'm the one who asks.

It's not predation. Asking for a date is not predation. BTW gyms aren't the only hookup spots. Bars & clubs? Festivals? Concerts? Bookstores? Eateries? Shops? Workplace? It can happen everywhere.

Perhaps we could put a dent in the epidemic of loneliness and related mental health issues if people had the stones to ask each other out.

 

[bigboaster]

People are consumers. It begins with "I want to have..."

We consume everything including relationships, sex, marriage, family, friends, entertainment, politics, religion, education, careers, recreation, energy, transportation and health care not mention housing and everything we put in our homes.

We are material animals in a material world.

Now I'll speak from personal experience.

People think I'm straight. A regular or someone new at the gym takes an interest in me. We talk. We spot each other at the bench and continue to talk using other equipment. Is he chatting me up or just being friendly? IDK. He changes when I do, follows me outside and asks for my number. If I'm interested I'll exchange numbers. If not, not. Substitute she for he for women who have done the same.

If I'm initiating then I'm the one who asks.

It's not predation. Asking for a date is not predation. BTW gyms aren't the only hookup spots. Bars & clubs? Festivals? Concerts? Bookstores? Eateries? Shops? Workplace? It can happen everywhere.

Perhaps we could put a dent in the epidemic of loneliness and related mental health issues if people had the stones to ask each other out.

Not sure where OP or anyone else in here suggested "asking someone out" was predatory or creepy? It never happened. This is a strawman. Lol.

Anyone can ask whoever they want out obviously. And the person being asked has the right to refuse to any reason they want. This isn't controversial. The issue comes up when the person refuses and then is still being pursued. Or relative to the topic. The person is openly heterosexual and is still being pursued in spite of that fact by a homosexual.

If you are unaware of someone's preferences. You obviously you can pursue them until stated otherwise.

 

[halcyondays]

Not sure where OP or anyone else in here suggested "asking someone out" was predatory or creepy? It never happened. This is a strawman. Lol.

Anyone can ask whoever they want out obviously. And the person being asked has the right to refuse to any reason they want. This isn't controversial. The issue comes up when the person refuses and then is still being pursued. Or relative to the topic. The person is openly heterosexual and is still being pursued in spite of that fact by a homosexual.

If you are unaware of someone's preferences. You obviously you can pursue them until stated otherwise.

The OP clearly states that he thinks it's creepy for gay/bi men to attempt to date someone who is straight. OP calls such behavior predatory. Don't even try it means don't even ask. Poof goes your strawman claim.

The OP makes no mention of pursuit after refusal. That's an issue you just introduced.

 

[bigboaster]

The OP clearly states that he thinks it's creepy for gay/bi men to attempt to date someone who is straight. OP calls such behavior predatory. Don't even try it means don't even ask. Poof goes your strawman claim.

The OP makes no mention of pursuit after refusal. That's an issue you just introduced.

Yes that is what was said and it's still accurate imho. Yes you don't even ask... If you KNOW they are straight. Your entire "rebuttal" only works if you don't know the person is straight. Which no one suggested was wrong. That's the strawman.

 

[halcyondays]

Yes that is what was said and it's still accurate imho. Yes you don't even ask... If you KNOW they are straight. Your entire "rebuttal" only works if you don't know the person is straight. Which no one suggested was wrong. That's the strawman.

OP clearly says it's wrong when it's not. Strawman burning.