Wisconsin Nude Beach Shutdown

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Let me see if I read this correctly: Beach is being shut down (on weekdays) because of activities involving "sex and drugs". From 2008 - 2012 they issued 92 citations for "disorderly conduct" (does that mean sex, or sex and other disorderly conduct?) or "drugs". They estimate the attendance some summers to be as many as 70 THOUSAND??

Hmm, 92 citations over a 5 year period out of an estimated 350 THOUSAND....

Yep, sounds like regular BASTION of evil.

Wisconsin officials say they will close nude beach on weekdays to cut down on sex, drugs - The Washington Post

What say you?
 

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Let me see if I read this correctly: Beach is being shut down (on weekdays) because of activities involving "sex and drugs". From 2008 - 2012 they issued 92 citations for "disorderly conduct" (does that mean sex, or sex and other disorderly conduct?) or "drugs". They estimate the attendance some summers to be as many as 70 THOUSAND??

Hmm, 92 citations over a 5 year period out of an estimated 350 THOUSAND....

Yep, sounds like regular BASTION of evil.

Wisconsin officials say they will close nude beach on weekdays to cut down on sex, drugs - The Washington Post

What say you?

BAN PUBLIC SEX but SELL WEAPONS AT WILL.

We definitely have are priorities in order.
 

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Let me see if I read this correctly: Beach is being shut down (on weekdays) because of activities involving "sex and drugs". From 2008 - 2012 they issued 92 citations for "disorderly conduct" (does that mean sex, or sex and other disorderly conduct?) or "drugs". They estimate the attendance some summers to be as many as 70 THOUSAND??

Hmm, 92 citations over a 5 year period out of an estimated 350 THOUSAND....

Yep, sounds like regular BASTION of evil.

Wisconsin officials say they will close nude beach on weekdays to cut down on sex, drugs - The Washington Post

What say you?

Absolutely disgusting obviously. People should be able to fuck while high as kite in peace whilst in public. Sex = biological function AND NOT A PROBLEM.

What about our racist prison-complex system? What about violence against women? What about police brutality? These are REAL problems impacting REAL people across the ENTIRE country. The fact that a nude beach gets attention over any of the above stated is DEFINITELY something to be upset about!
 

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I'm starting to wonder if they did hit the thousands what would there tactics be? :rolleyes:
•Bring forth the militia
•High chain link fencing
•Some guard dogs
•And officers patroling the perimeter.

Its like any other public setting, they are just cleaning up the city's bad reputation. But it is a bummer that the pleasure seekers can't get their freak on at a nude beach. Maybe they are trying to make the waters a lil less salty. :tongue:
 

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Absolutely disgusting obviously. People should be able to fuck while high as kite in peace whilst in public. Sex = biological function AND NOT A PROBLEM.

I'm sorry but your point here eludes me (due to some deficiency on my part, no doubt...:rolleyes:) though I detect a smack of sarcasm "deeply" embedded within.

No one is suggesting that sex or getting high as a kite in public should be either permissible or desirable. The fact is, most true naturists/nudists frown upon it because we know that the same activities that garner little attention in clothed venues seem to get a HELL of a lot of attention when you throw in nudity. And who wants that?

But citing 92 citations out of an estimated 350,000 patrons over a five year period as reasons for closing a beach smacks of something other than the curtailing of criminal activity, imo. It would've been more believable (if not more honest) had they simply said, "Look we don't have the manpower, the time, or the assets to police the beach 24/7, so we're closing it up for the weekdays.

What about our racist prison-complex system? What about violence against women? What about police brutality? These are REAL problems impacting REAL people across the ENTIRE country. The fact that a nude beach gets attention over any of the above stated is DEFINITELY something to be upset about!

I agree. All the above are "real problems impacting REAL people." (As opposed to all those FAKE people who frequent nude beaches, I guess.)...

...and I can't wait to read all of YOUR threads concerning those problems. :cool:
 
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Georgia, the State with the most lenient gun laws on the books, now allows church goers to carry guns IN CHURCH but any public nudity (at a beach or otherwise) is a criminal offense. Something is seriously fucked up in this country.
 

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Georgia, the State with the most lenient gun laws on the books, now allows church goers to carry guns IN CHURCH but any public nudity (at a beach or otherwise) is a criminal offense. Something is seriously fucked up in this country.



See the contradiction? Humans can be humans to a point....with a bullet point that is....but don't go shootin' sumbody wit dat hard azz 'shroom head.....
 

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And here's another good one. In North Carolina, a "nipple slip" - showing of a sex organ or an organ which causes excretions - is a class H felony.

Class H felonies involve crimes such as embezzlement, battery that causes great bodily harm, false imprisonment, stalking, and theft. The penalty for Class H felonies is a fine of up to $10,000, imprisonment for up to six years, or both.

WTF is this country coming to?????
 

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So your suggested solution is to let the government regulate the sex lives of the general public?

Even if its only public sex, I don't think so.

C'mon smaccoms, was only making a lil joke, but like helgaleena said one can get naked and fuck in a private setting without having to watch over their shoulders.
 

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I say this sucks. Mazo beach is one of America's treasures and an oasis of clothing-optional sanity in an otherwise very uptight upper Midwest area.

This subject is very close to my heart. When I lived in Chicago, I spent countless happy weekends up at Mazo beach (pronounced "Mayzo", after the nearby town of Mazomanie "mayzoMAYnee"). Folks, this is one wonderful nude beach. It's on the beautiful sandy banks of the Wisconsin River, and the views are spectacular. Across the river are beautiful hills, a rarity in the Midwest, between the beach and Sauk City several miles upstream. And everything is green, green, green. It's so fantastic.

The people scene is wonderful. Families, straight couples, gay couples, gay groups of friends, everyone together. Folks sharing from picnic baskets with strangers, people talking to each other. Back when I would visit, the Wisconsin DNR would allow folks to set up tents and sleep overnight on the beach. People would bring guitars, sometimes have a small campfire to sit around, and just hang out. It was sheer bliss.

Was there sex during the day? Hellz yes. Good grief, between the woods and the beach was a huge area of tall grass (3-5 feet high) and marsh. There were loads of trails in the grasses and the woods, and gay men would wander back there all the time. Man, I have some wonderful memories of those times and the guys I met there. Spilled a tremendous amount of spunk. My partner at the time and I met porn star Scott O'Hara on Mazo Beach and we went back in the woods and had amazing sex with him. Scott and I became good friends after that. Now, this activity was taking place probably a quarter mile from the families on the beach, so there is no way anyone there could see or even hear anything "offensive".

Did anyone smoke a joint on the beach or in the woods? Of course. It was a happy, mellow scene anyway, and back when I was a beach regular the DNS officers would come up the beach on horseback, people would stub out their marijuana in the sand, and everyone was happy. The rangers would happily hang out with us and shoot the breeze, completely unfazed that we were all naked. It was very cool.

I've heard that after I left the area the DNS started clamping down. Apparently some very conservative folks in Sauk City could not sleep at night knowing that there were naked people on the beach 5 miles away, so they kept badgering the police in the Badger State to do something about all that sin. Eventually the DNS started a "cleanup": no camping, zero tolerance of pot and cruising the grasses (which were also mowed down to almost nothing) and beefed up patrols of the beach.

Shutting it down weekdays is just stupid. Some people have to work on weekends and now can't enjoy this beautiful beach at all. Also, it could get pretty busy on Saturday and Sunday and sometimes it was nice just to hang out on a slow weekday with only a dozen people within half a mile.

Want an idea of what Mazo Beach looks like?

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Bob Morton is the greatest. He's the executive director of NAC, the Naturist Action Committee, and he has done many wonderful things to ensure the legality and vitality of naturism in the United States. A tireless advocate.

Here is further info about Mazo Beach: Mazo Beach - Nude Wisconsin

And while I lived in the area and even after I moved out to California, I was a member and contributor to Friends of Mazo Beach, a wonderful organization doing a great service in the face of sometimes hateful opposition. I can't recommend them highly enough.
 

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Exactly as I suspected. Nude and Clothes Op beach closures are rarely based solely upon reasons such as those cited by law enforcement in this particular incident.

Though at first they may seem nothing more than trivial side-bar news events or problems not considered by some to be "real" these issues actually revolve around long standing and continual conflict between cultures, sub-cultures, and social ideologies:

on one hand, those who support or patronize nudist/naturist recreational venues, and on the other a typically small but very vocal group of locals (usually ideologically conservative) who (as they had in Navarre, Florida and other locales) manage to dictate and impose their will, social values, and mores upon everyone else.

They do this by finding some way to demonize the "offending" party - making an issue out of some "grave concern" (in this case, sex and "drugs") and they use this as justification for accomplishing what they'd set out to do, regardless.

Don't be surprised if the Wisconsin case doesn't end with weekday closures. As a clothes free option, look for Mazo beach to become yet another "endangered species".
 
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