Women at LPSG and no-win situations

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By referring to it as "argues like a girl," one automatically assumes (incorrectly if I'm reading your explanation in the manner you meant it) that you're contrasting it with arguing like a boy/man. The reason for this is probably that the phrase that it's derived from is "throws like a girl" which is used against men (and women) derisively. I'd rather you call it something else, but hey, it's your headspace, not mine.
"Throwing like a girl" is a very distinctive act - hell, it could probably be spotted in photos from space - and the name is an accurate and universally understood description. There are other types of throwing which are also clearly identifiable. The most common would probably be throwing like a chimpanze. I know of one anthropologist who has written that the two are the same, and then went on to speculate that prehominids could only throw the same way, but I disagree on both counts. In any case, the best that chimps can manage is a sort of sideways swing. This is not to imply that it is an inferior technique - some major league baseball pitchers do very well with it - but it is definitely distinctive. It's called throwing like a chimpanze rather than throwing like a major league pitcher because it's not at all typical of major league pitching. It is typical of major league chimpanze throwing. There may be a chimp somewhere who throws things like I toss a throwing knife, but if so he has yet to be described in the literature.

"Arguing like a girl" seemed more appropriate to the forum and the topic than any other concise label, and perfectly accurate. I need to call it something, and that something should be less than a paragraph in length. I avoid things which can be misinterpreted when dealing with psychotics, as explained at tedious length above. But I shouldn't have to do it in every goddamn post.
At any rate, I do see what you're saying. One would hope that you'd have some good categories in there to balance out the bad instead of just "other."
You don't see what I'm saying if you read any "good" or "bad" judgements into it. My descripions were just that - descriptions. Anything else is in the eye of the beholder, and there only.
 

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But, as a few of the women here have pointed out, there are men who have certain expectations of us. We're supposed to reply to every idiot PM, request for cam, every thread that begs us to look at their pics, and apparently, as NJQT so aptly noted, we're viewed as free phone/IM sex for many. I don't feel obligated to do anything I don't want to. Something else i've just recently discovered is that it's perfectly fine for men to "out" a faker but it's a witch hunt when women do it, even if it's for the right reason. Everyone is supposed to feel sympathy for the straight guys when they discover they've been wanking to fake pics of Miss Valentine, but heaven forbid the women try to help each other on this site when they're bombarded with all the sick shit some guys try to pull.

The double standard is alive and well. How refreshing.
I'd hope that these guys are always newbies that don't know how to behave.They need to learn or leave.I'd like to think that most of them have a better education when they've been here a while but I know that plenty are beyond redemption.I get the impression that most of the problems originate in the chatroom and the main reason I've never been in there is because I think it will be full of these types that I don't want to waste my time on.
The 2nd point I highlighted - I thought we were all united against the fakers here.Is there a particular incident that you're thinking of?
I have always given all the women here my full support against abusive pm's etc.
I'm happy to report that I never wanked over the fake Miss Valentine pics.I left comments saying I liked the photos,but the constant "size isn't important" posts always gave me the nagging feeling that she could turn out to be a guy with a two inch cock.
MB, I can't promise any "no wanking" claims over your photos :tongue: :smile:
 

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We need to find you and MagicTounge a job on the east coast (NC to be exact) haha. Of course, there are many others whom would be shining stars here, too!

I love your attitude, MB, and your frankness about situations and topics. It does help shed light amongst intolerable topics and the complacency some of us have when thinking more critically about the stupidity that goes on here... Sometimes turning a blind eye is not necessarily the best policy to have.........

What bothers me is that i've read posts from a few men who claim that other regular male posters kiss the asses of regular female posters on this site and that's bollocks. One of the reasons I like this site is because you can freely give your opinion and expect lots of criticism, some constructive, some not. The freedom to disagree is not one I take for granted. But certain things are overlooked and it's a shame when we could learn something from them upon closer scrutiny.
 

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Maybe there are too many pent up hormones and frankly at some point we will just have to all meet up and fuck our brains out. Of course that will take less time for some than others. :rolleyes:
 

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I have had the internet and used it for cyber sexual reasons for a really long time ( 1992?)

I was a "web cam girl" before almost anyone knew you could see things like that on the net. I worked briefly ( till I learnt money and schedules take away the thrill for me ) at a few web cam sites and made a ton of money early on doing what I like. I used to sell my pictures in "packets" online for 250 USD , over ten a week....I am so shocked when i think of it now.

I also learnt there to just sit back and cop the shit men dished out, cause they were paying for it....sort of like the mindset of a stripper ( which I have also been briefly...I have a slight exhibitionistic itch I need to scratch every now and then )

I have had everything thrown at me from men that you could possibly imagine. I even travelled overseas to meet a guy ( friends) who never showed up ( in London no less !!) I grew tough really quick.

I also decided, about 10 years into my internet travels ( ok so maybe I was a slow learner!) , to use the internet purely for MY entertainment and interest. It may seem selfish and egotistical, but I don't have time to foster online friendships.

I come here when I am horny or bored. I go to other online debating sites when I am angry or pissed off ( pms usually) I go to my womens sites when I need a breath of freash air and some "niceness"


I expect nothing from men online, in fact like someone mentioned I think the anominity makes them jerks mostly. However in real life,- my life is surrounded by fantastic, loving , good men, and I have a very high appreciation for them!

I could not give a rats arse if anyone IM's me in chat, I am there to chat, chat to me in the forum provided, unless I know you from forum posts here, I simply leave them unread.

I do not ever expose myself to men being idiots, I do not tolerate men behaving badly. I hit delete a lot, I also hit ignore a lot.

I don't make cyber friends quickly or easily as my time online is so sporadic that I am in and out like a old man mostly due to clients ( art not sex) and kids.

So I am percieved a a bitch often through PM or chat, so be it, to them I am probably acting like one, for me it is self preservation.

x

Honey

( I am not even sure if I just ranted or answered your question )
 

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What bothers me is that i've read posts from a few men who claim that other regular male posters kiss the asses of regular female posters on this site and that's bollocks.
But they do. And you can find this on any forum where there are regular men & women.

So I am percieved a a bitch often through PM or chat, so be it, to them I am probably acting like one, for me it is self preservation.

It's just the rejection talking. The guys who see you as a bitch for guarding yourself are the same ones who are looking to get their dick off and don't give a shit about you either.

Especially on the internet of all places, you should be placing yourself above others anyway (and understanding of those who do the same)
 

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Yes - OK I am kissing her ass - have you fucking seen it?
Too bad if you haven't - most of the gallery's been deleted.Why do you do this to us Honey?
I suppose we'll just have to make do with this lil' fella..... :booty:
 

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Maybe I'm the one person who hasn't experienced this. When I don't like the way someone talks to me in a pm, I just ignore it. I figure that they forget about it anyway. If someone nicely asks to meet up or webcam or anything, I just politely tell them I don't do that, and thank them for their message and interest. aside from a few stragglers, I am constantly impressed with the men here. Or maybe I'm just lucky with the guys that have mailed me so far.
 

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You're not alone, Shelby.

While I have been called a bitch for not playing along with some guy's fantasy life. I'm pleased to say that I receive significantly fewer advances than most of the women here.

I chalk that up to two things:
1. I post no pics
2. A sharp object as a screenname.

You do post pictures, and you're a pretty girl. You likely will get more advances as time goes on and I hope that they are all polite. If some aren't, please don't get discouraged. Turn to one of the other women here for support whenever you need it.

Would I hear a collective groan if I said "We're all in this together"?
 

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If you attempt to be nice, open-minded, and genuine, you wonder if you're just being naive and setting yourself up for trouble.

If you choose to ignore someone or tell them you're not interested in talking with them (for whatever reason) you're usually labeled a bitch.

Am I right or wrong? Or both?

Note: Men, this is not aimed at the majority of the posting population. Let it be known that I am wholly appreciative of most men here, especially those I know on a more personal level. You know who you are.

What I don't get is some of the pm's I get from guys. Like "Hi, great pics, I've got a big cock, pm me!" When I started getting pm's like that I couldn't believe it. And that's not even the worst ones! Like some will be right up front like hey, let's cam. Or "Hi! You're hot! Lemme know if you want to chat!" Even if I didn't have a bf that kinda stuff would not make me want to talk to them. I dunno if those guys have success with that stuff but I don't get it. If I was looking to meet guys here I think the ones I'd answer would maybe be if they tried to start a convo. or something, not just say you're hot, I have a big dick, let's whatever.
And the other thing is the other day I was on chat and I was having a convo. w/someone, and if someone else sent me a message I told them sorry I'm busy now. And then they get all annoyed and one kept asking me "busy with what?", and some other ones were on the main chat talking bad about me cuz I wouldn't chat. I was trying to be nice telling them sorry I'm busy instead of just ignoring them, but they were being so paranoid or sensitive or something.
I guess I'm saying I agree w/you, mercurialbliss! I've chatted w/a couple guys that were cool here but sometimes they're frustrating!
 

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Yorkie, you know why i pulled them down?? I got a flurry of PM's stating what a loser my husband was and how tiny he was etc etc...and why I am accustomed to men belittling me, I really get pissed off when someone diss'es my man. Afterall I have to persude him to let me measure him and take pics etc, he is a lot shier than I am.

So i went "fuck it" and took them down....dont worry..I have some more coming soon...i just wont include him in them anymore.

x
Honey
 

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Yorkie, you know why i pulled them down?? I got a flurry of PM's stating what a loser my husband was and how tiny he was etc etc...and why I am accustomed to men belittling me, I really get pissed off when someone diss'es my man. Afterall I have to persude him to let me measure him and take pics etc, he is a lot shier than I am.

So i went "fuck it" and took them down....dont worry..I have some more coming soon...i just wont include him in them anymore.

x
Honey
I wondered if it might be something to do with people giving you abuse again.I hope you've put these idiots on ignore or,if they were really offensive,forwarded them to the mods.
I can't blame your hubby for not wanting anything to do with it,you need to be thick-skinned to put your pics up for the world to see.
Have you closed your xtube and uvutu accounts because of this? There are some very strange commentators on those sites.Much worse than anyone here.
 

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Yorkie, you know why i pulled them down?? I got a flurry of PM's stating what a loser my husband was and how tiny he was etc etc...and why I am accustomed to men belittling me, I really get pissed off when someone diss'es my man. Afterall I have to persude him to let me measure him and take pics etc, he is a lot shier than I am.

So i went "fuck it" and took them down....dont worry..I have some more coming soon...i just wont include him in them anymore.

x
Honey

don't let jealous guys get you upset....ton of guys wish they could trade places with your husband...that's for real
 

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What bothers me is that i've read posts from a few men who claim that other regular male posters kiss the asses of regular female posters on this site and that's bollocks. One of the reasons I like this site is because you can freely give your opinion and expect lots of criticism, some constructive, some not. The freedom to disagree is not one I take for granted. But certain things are overlooked and it's a shame when we could learn something from them upon closer scrutiny.

I've has similar shit slung my way. If I agree with someone, and good God, a girl, the requisite PM's and posts accusing me of having my tongue buried up the persons ass starts. I guess it comes down to how we individually define the LPSG experience. Some take the "Blitzkrieg" approach where they bombard the site with opinionated threads, brimming with links to dubious sources, all the while ignoring any counterpoint that might call their "genius" into question. Sorry, but that's not how I roll. Life is about learning, and one of the most valuable tools we have to advance our own knowledge is having basic empathy for others. If you can't get your head out of your own ass long enough to listen (and value) the opinion of others, then just give us all a break and PM yourself with brilliant repartee and insight, as you will not be missed.

As far as butt-licking goes, as much as many of the LPSG buttocks veer towards the edible side (you know who you are), exercising a little apple polishing for a cheap reward just isn't for me. Ass kissing is the most insidious and disingenuous practice out there.
 

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If you attempt to be nice, open-minded, and genuine, you wonder if you're just being naive and setting yourself up for trouble.

If you choose to ignore someone or tell them you're not interested in talking with them (for whatever reason) you're usually labeled a bitch.

Am I right or wrong? Or both?







Note: Men, this is not aimed at the majority of the posting population. Let it be known that I am wholly appreciative of most men here, especially those I know on a more personal level. You know who you are.

You're right on both counts. Very few men on here respect me for who I am as a person. It's usually about my tits or my pussy. :rolleyes: I'm really over it. I've had men give me flak because they IM me with "How big r ur tits?" and I either tell them that it's none of their business, or I ignore them completely. I don't even care anymore.
 

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Healthy people maintain a balance. I feel there is a balance between a physical animalistic side, an emotional side and a reasoned logical side (an oversimplification). This balance is more important to healthy relationships than it is to a healthy individual.

These PMs, especially some of the ones received by women are drastically out of balance.

Personally, I think a lot of people here are out of balance and that may be implicit in the site... but I think a lot of people are in balance and they're the ones who make this site great, even the ones I personally disagree with :smile:.

I must admit, the PMs I've gotten here that have lead to more *good* conversation, as well as the other parts, are the balanced ones. The people who show *every* side (physical, emotional and reasoned) within their first single message... a joke is often the key.

Hehe, I have the problem that I answer everything like an essay :rolleyes:, so don't look for balance here... I do think however Bliss hit the point of balance on the head with her original message, in capturing the voracious march of the unbalanced, the physically/sexually biased individual and their tendency to lash out at those who are more in kilter :smile:.