Women how much better does an uncircumcised penis FEEL compared to a cut penis?

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I started a bit of a flame war the last time this was asked, but I found my friend's observation so different, I thought I'd post it on this thread as well (also because of the bullshit leading question too).

My friend dislikes uncut dick mainly because as it plunges in and out of her, it's actually sliding in and out of its own foreskin. Technically, the dick rubs inside the foreskin and she feels no frictional contact at all within her. She termed it as not really fucking the real him.
 

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Of course this is about personal taste. However, I have thought that the difference in reactions to cocks with foreskins may vary, based on the size of the sex organs involved. I am very thick and large. Women tell me they love the fact that they are stretched without the friction that usually develops with a cut penis. They can fuck longer, not get sore, and they feel as if the penetration is -- the words, "more organic," "more exciting," and "more natural" have been often used. I can imagine that if the vagina is quite loose and wet or the penis is thinner, that some friction would be a good thing, and that the woman might miss it as the foreskin glides inside her.

When a woman's vagina is not tight around me -- the woman has had several kids for example -- I sometimes use a cock ring to hold the foreskin back. That adds the friction factor, plus the head of my cock is very sensitive so it adds to my pleasure in the loose cunt.
 
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I started a bit of a flame war the last time this was asked, but I found my friend's observation so different, I thought I'd post it on this thread as well (also because of the bullshit leading question too).

My friend dislikes uncut dick mainly because as it plunges in and out of her, it's actually sliding in and out of its own foreskin. Technically, the dick rubs inside the foreskin and she feels no frictional contact at all within her. She termed it as not really fucking the real him.
I have never had this experience! When having condom-less sex with a guy who has a foreskin, I always pushed his foreskin down first, and it always seemed to stay most of the way down. While it definitely does continue to partially slide in and out of the foreskin, of course I feel friction with every fraction of an inch entering me. Then again, I have very full, puffy outer labia which do not permit entry of the foreskin into me once it has been pulled back. At the same time, I figure if the foreskin could get past my outer labia, the fit of my vagina around his penis would preclude any entry of the foreskin. It has never ever once occurred to me to not push back the foreskin when guiding a cock inside, and when I don't do the guiding, the foreskin is always pushed back by the very act of entry. I am always astonished when I read about other women having a foreskin inside of them. It just does not seem to me like that is where it belongs. I'm not even curious about how it would feel. I am curious enough about other people's different experiences to ask an ex if his foreskin has ever been in anyone else, how it got in there in the first place, and if he likes that feeling better. All of it seems completely foreign to me.
 
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I have never had this experience!

My friend, who told me about this, has recently been discovering her sexual side. By that, I'm gathering she used to let the guys take charge in the manner of entry. Being cut, I never really stopped to think about

I am always astonished when I read about other women having a foreskin inside of them. It just does not seem to me like that is where it belongs.

Every once in a while, usually before we need to add lube, I can feel the skin around my shaft "turtle" around my glans if my range of motion is small enough. I would imagine that's a bit like the foreskin the stagnates and the glans sliding in and out. I agree, it doesn't feel right.

I'm not even curious about how it would feel. I am curious enough about other people's different experiences to ask an ex if his foreskin has ever been in anyone else, how it got in there in the first place, and if he likes that feeling better. All of it seems completely foreign to me.

Do report back what you discover. I'm just curious.
 

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When a woman's vagina is not tight around me -- the woman has had several kids for example -- I sometimes use a cock ring to hold the foreskin back. That adds the friction factor, plus the head of my cock is very sensitive so it adds to my pleasure in the loose cunt.

I agree 100% about the cock ring, I wore one quite often with a larger woman and it definitely increased the friction, made me slightly larger (specially thickness) and, I imagine, gives me some insight to what it would feel like to be cut. I think it increased the fun for both of us.

The cock ring makes much less of a difference with my current girlfriend.
I think this is because I'm a real grower and I don't exactly have a lot of slack foreskin to slide around inside once i'm at my hardest/largest, which I often am inside her much tighter but still very wet pussy.
 

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My friend, who told me about this, has recently been discovering her sexual side. By that, I'm gathering she used to let the guys take charge in the manner of entry. Being cut, I never really stopped to think about
Spoke to an ex today. He said some women he's been with have been both very fleshy (he LOVES a huge ass) and either too lazy or too inexperienced to move their folds out of the way during initial penetration. Where he'd normally use his hand to make sure his foreskin wasn't getting in the way, his hands were instead busy holding onto handfuls of her. Another way he said his foreskin might end up inside was if the woman was not a tight fit for him.



Every once in a while, usually before we need to add lube, I can feel the skin around my shaft "turtle" around my glans if my range of motion is small enough. I would imagine that's a bit like the foreskin the stagnates and the glans sliding in and out. I agree, it doesn't feel right.
He had nothing to add to this commentary, but I don't think I worded it quite correctly. I was paraphrasing.



Do report back what you discover. I'm just curious.[/QUOTE]He agrees. Foreskin is not for entry as far as he's concerned.
 

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Spoke to an ex today. He said some women he's been with have been both very fleshy (he LOVES a huge ass) and either too lazy or too inexperienced to move their folds out of the way during initial penetration. Where he'd normally use his hand to make sure his foreskin wasn't getting in the way, his hands were instead busy holding onto handfuls of her. Another way he said his foreskin might end up inside was if the woman was not a tight fit for him.

This is both fascinating and makes a lot of sense. It's also probably why my frined said what she said (she's inexperienced, but has slept with quite a few people <--someday I'd love to see a thread about that). EDIT: I'm correcting that last sentence for clarity: She is experienced, but not very aware/savvy/shrewd about sex.

He had nothing to add to this commentary, but I don't think I worded it quite correctly. I was paraphrasing.

Obviously your friend, being uncut, won't understand this. Just like I didn't understand the fact that some guys are fucking their own foreskins sometimes.

He agrees. Foreskin is not for entry as far as he's concerned.

Thank you again for the research. I'd love to hear more.
 
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Spoke to an ex today. He said some women he's been with have been both very fleshy (he LOVES a huge ass) and either too lazy or too inexperienced to move their folds out of the way during initial penetration. Where he'd normally use his hand to make sure his foreskin wasn't getting in the way, his hands were instead busy holding onto handfuls of her. Another way he said his foreskin might end up inside was if the woman was not a tight fit for him.
I'm confused by a number of things here, possibly misreading.

Folds? If by this he means labia then I take exception to his comment about some women being too lazy or inexperienced to move them out of the way. I don't part mine for entry because the feel of them being pushed open is a divine. I also hate spread open positions due to the lack of labial stimulation.

If 'folds' isn't in reference to the labia then these are very fleshy women indeed.

I'm also really confused about his talk about how the foreskin could get "inside" them. If an uncut cock is in a woman the foreskin is in them too. It's attached. There are no tie-backs to keep it at the base. Unless the guy holds the foreskin back throughout the encounter on each outstroke the foreskin in almost all cases rolls forward again. We don't see it because it's rare to pull out entirely and check with each stroke.

Degree of foreskin movement is dependent on a few things: lubrication, flare of glans in relation to the shaft, length & tightness of the foreskin and tightness of the orifice penetrated.

If the opening of the foreskin is too small to retract behind the head as with phimosis then there's not much movement and it's staying forward.

If it's relatively snug and the glans flare enough in relation to the shaft it will still slide on the shaft but sort of ruche up behind the head on the outstroke.

For lubrication vs orifice tightness an experiment.

Take one finger and place it below your lower lip and press just firmly enough that you can feel your gums through your skin. Wiggle your finger and feel how smoothly the inside of your mouth glides over your gums(assuming no braces). Next grab some lube and keep experimenting with more lube or less pressure until your finger slides over your skin more than the inside of your mouth glides over your gums. That's how wet and loose the orifice needs to be for the foreskin not to move at all.

Same idea for entry. Unless the guy has a super long foreskin dangling from his erect penis he doesn't need to roll it back to enter. As soon as there is friction and pressure from the orifice on the outside of the foreskin the penis will glide within it's own sheath until the foreskin is is fully retracted anyway.

Does anyone remember those water balloon tubes? It's pretty much the same action as poking a pencil (eraser first) through one. You'd need a lot of lubrication and a very light touch to stroke over the tube without the tube moving at all over the pencil.
 

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Gillette, I think your experiences and mine are just different.

Some women have huge asses or (like me) huge outer labia. These sometimes need to be spread a little for penetration. Since my outer lips do not get wet, I do not want them pushed into me during penetration. It isn't pleasant friction. Inner labia are a completely different story.

I have NEVER had a foreskin inside me, and that particular ex verifies his certainly never was. My entry is sufficiently snug to push the foreskin along the shaft to the base. All the man need do is push it past his head before penetrating. My labia and the size of my opening do the rest. Contrarily, if a woman is not as tight a fit on him, the opening and labia may not provide enough pressure to prevent his forskin from becoming unfurled, and it may enter. That has been his experience. He doesn't want to feel his foreskin in constant contact with glans or shaft during sex. He wants to feel her vagina.

While it may be true that a man doesn't need to roll back his foreskin to enter, all the uncut men I fucked wanted to. At least, that is my assumption since they all always did. They also rolled it back at some point during oral if I didn't do so on my own. They also rolled it back before wearing condoms. In my personal experience, men liked to have their foreskin played with, but only to a certain point.

His foreskin is relatively loose; it has enough force to roll condoms back up toward his glans. I could feel the difference when the condom ring entered, and I also could feel his foreskin against my lips. The condom would unroll slightly, then slip in. The foreskin would get pushed back down. With none of my other lovers did this happen. The condom itself seemed sufficient to keep foreskin out of the way.

Every man I encountered with foreskin was always incredibly wet inside his sheath before I even touched his penis. This, I suspect may have something to do with our different experiences as well. I never met a foreskin that wasn't incredibly slippery. Perhaps you have? I know some people get wetter than others. My husband never, ever gets wet on his own. I provide all of our wetness. He's cut though, which is why I didn't question him.

I never slept with anyone with phimosis, which I assumed was the glaringly obvious exception.
 

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foreskins don't push down to the base, doll.
they're joined at the base of the head.
it might be pulled back tight enough not to notice...and, in my experience, most foreskins do seem to vanish on a hard cock...but you've definitely had a foreskin inside you!
 

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You can push down on the foreskin until it is gathered near the base. Obviously, the attachment on the underside doesn't suddenly break off, but much of the skin is free to manipulate. In porn, I've seen foreskin that stretches so much during erection that only an inch or a fraction thereof seems free to move. Since that isn't a situation where the foreskin is loose enough to remain a sheath, I thought it was pretty obvious and clear that we were discussing only very loose foreskin. Perhaps I misinterpreted the intent of other posters. At any rate, I've never had sex with anyone whose skin was that tight. Most of the uncut guys I was with actually frequently masturbated by pulling down very hard on their foreskin to enjoy the tension this creates on and near the glans. When they'd do this the heads would get very, very shiny, but remain dry to the touch. When they'd slide the skin back upward, the shine instantly disappeared. I found this strange and fascinating, so they'd do that for as long as I wanted to watch. Only one never did this by himself or as a show for me. I never had unprotected sex with him, however so have no idea how his skin would have behaved. On the other hand, he too could pull his foreskin down so that it rested below the ring of the condom, and always did this.
 

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it's not the foreskin that's at the base though.
that's the skin from just below the mid penis.
the foreskin is stretch out over the end half of the penis.

it creates loose skin at the base, but that skin isn't the foreskin.
 

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Additionally, not everyone is attached as high up as each other. The ex I questioned has a low attachment compared to my other previous lovers, and my husband's scar is long compared to the length of his shaft, making me think his was probably pretty low-slung too. An arabic guy who'd been cut in adolescence had a scar which was not only very low on his shaft, but also nowhere near to resembling a straight line like all the others I've seen in person do. Just like ours, it seems mens bodies are not cookie-cutters.
 

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for none of it to ever go in you it would have to attach at the base...

wanna draw a diagram of how that works, so that no foreskin ever goes inside you?

call me a cynic!
 

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it's not the foreskin that's at the base though.
that's the skin from just below the mid penis.
the foreskin is stretch out over the end half of the penis.

it creates loose skin at the base, but that skin isn't the foreskin.

I stand corrected. One learns something new every day if one is lucky! Permit me to re-phrase.

At no time has a foreskin crept over the head of a cock inside me during intercourse. The sleeve that covers the entire length of an in-tact shaft, but is apparently not considered part of the foreskin (despite the fact that most cut guys do not have enough loose skin to create a sleeve without prolonged intervention) seems copius in the uncut guys with whom I've lain, and also does not creep up enough to enter me during intercourse.
 

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I stand corrected. One learns something new every day if one is lucky! Permit me to re-phrase.

At no time has a foreskin crept over the head of a cock inside me during intercourse. The sleeve that covers the entire length of an in-tact shaft, but is apparently not considered part of the foreskin (despite the fact that most cut guys do not have enough loose skin to create a sleeve without prolonged intervention) seems copius in the uncut guys with whom I've lain, and also does not creep up enough to enter me during intercourse.
i've found that too mostly.

there've been a couple of exceptions but for most i can't immediately see the difference between cut & uncut when erect. but it feels a lot different because, as you say, it loosens up the skin on the shaft. i find it more comfortable, as it reduces chafing on long sessions. and obviously ot makes lubeless hand jobs much smoother.
 

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I can only draw cakes and stick figures. You seriously do not want to even peek at anything I sketch before making a sugar sculpture. Besides I'm traveling again and posting by phone (which is why I'm not quoting, and my posts are likely rife with missed typos).

Anyway, I shall attempt a verbal description.

When left alone, the foreskin, appears inside out. That is, it begins where it is attached somewhere below the corona, comes up over the head (or only partially over it if it is shorter), folds over itself, and then the skin which you tell me is not part of the foreskin continues down as a sleeve over the entire length of the shaft until it meets the groin area. I always thought this was part of the foreskin, since you can move this skin readily along the shaft, and you can slide a finger between ths skin and the rest of the shaft. This is the source of the confusion. I believe the ex in question shared my understanding (or lack thereof) since he knew exactly what I was asking.

To add to my confusion, there was a lover who had his foreskin removed halfway into our FWB situation. After the surgery that entire sleeve was gone. There was absolutely no extra skin. So, this only served to reinforce my belief that all of that skin is foreskin.
 
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Actually, the more I think about it, the more I'm thinking I was right, and you've just never seen foreskin that long and loose in person. I know I've never seen tight foreskin close up in person. The skin I'm talking about that makes a sleeve is not part of the midshaft. I've been trying to picture it as such, and it just isn't. In fact, when it is pulled as tightly as possible downward, you can get your tongue inside and feel the very base of the shaft. If you use your finger and press really hard, you can feel where the shaft continues for a bit internally (right before he slaps your hand away in shocked protest). I think I know why you don't understand what I'm describing, and I think the reason is you encounter the kind of foreskins I've only ever seen in porn. The kind that are really snug and short, and stop midshaft. I have never been with a man with one of those.