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At least I'm clever enough to multi quote and layer quotes without getting it all fuktup :rolleyes:

And no, I did not edit out the 'case by case' bit - I asked you a direct question about it. Do you only read what you want to?

And, like it or not, you are sexist. Two drivers scared you, both were female so you now attempt to 'vet' female drivers - you do no such thing with male drivers. The group of people who drive you is probably such that the fact the two drivers who scared you were female has no statistical relevance and yet you let it colour how you treat all women. That is sexist.
 
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At least I'm clever enough to multi quote and layer quotes without getting it all fuktup :rolleyes:

And no, I did not edit out the 'case by case' bit - I asked you a direct question about it. Do you only read what you want to?

And, like it or not, you are sexist. Two drivers scared you, both were female so you now attempt to 'vet' female drivers - you do no such thing with male drivers. The group of people who drive you is probably such that the fact the two drivers who scared you were female has no statistical relevance and yet you let it colour how you treat all women. That is sexist.

I do vet male drivers, and I guess Im lucky enough not to have ridden with the nuts that have apparently scarred you for life on all men.

The list of people that drive me is pretty short, because my gfs normally prefer to ride with me.

You have no clue how I treat women, my gf and x gfs do, so really your approval or disapproval makes no difference to me.

Go force your man hating on someone else. I used to think people that said women here hate men even setting foot in the women's issues forum were just crazy, but I guess there are still people like that.
 

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I do vet male drivers, and I guess Im lucky enough not to have ridden with the nuts that have apparently scarred you for life on all men.

The list of people that drive me is pretty short, because my gfs normally prefer to ride with me.

You have no clue how I treat women, my gf and x gfs do, so really your approval or disapproval makes no difference to me.

Go force your man hating on someone else. I used to think people that said women here hate men even setting foot in the women's issues forum were just crazy, but I guess there are still people like that.

Wait a second... Wasn't it Manly B who stated that she credits each driver she meets with individuality? How does that equate to man hating?

You know you've lost the argument when you have to resort to making shit up and turning accusations around on the accuser in the hopes they back down!
 

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I don't hate men - just bigotry.

You were the one who specified that you vet the driving abilities of girlfriends based on the (in)abilities of past girl friends. If you vet men as well I'm unclear as to why you made it so very clear that it was all about women drivers. You showed your arse, now you are trying to cover it. I understand. I'll let it drop. What you said is there in black and white - others will interpret it as they see fit - it's not up to me... or you.
 

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Overall, men and women are both good/bad drivers in equal measure. I've been in a car driven by a mad woman - we nearly crashed. How she passed her test, I don't know. One cold morning, many years ago - I was driven to school by a male taxi driver. I had only one leg in the car before he proceeded to speed up the street. He was fast and reckless. He didn't even notice me hanging from the car! Neither of those people should be allowed on the road - their gender has nothing to do with it. The brain and body of the person doesn't make a real difference. For the doubters, I'll point out the following; men and women do have different balances in the brain that may or may not cause slightly different responses to the environment, but neither are overtly negative. A man might try to swerve out of the way where a woman may simply try to brake etc. It could work the other way as well, it all depends and I'm not a scientist, but you see my point. Men respond better to visual cues but women are better multi-taskers, both help in a driving scenario. Neither of these are 'wrong' and the difference in brain is minor, so let's drop this silly car thing and hug. For some interesting viewing on the 'brain thing' - here's an article and a humorous 'QI' episode. (Watch from 38:33, or the whole thing if you love Mr Fry.)

Oh, also - I don't mean to come across as sexist. Please voice any concerns you have with me or my post. :smile:
 

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Wait a second... Wasn't it Manly B who stated that she credits each driver she meets with individuality? How does that equate to man hating?

You know you've lost the argument when you have to resort to making shit up and turning accusations around on the accuser in the hopes they back down!


But to be fair Ive seen male drivers that were worse, so this and many other things has taught me to treat life on a case by case basis.

See how people ignore evidence, I said I view people on a case by case basis. Read much?


The topic was about misconceptions of women, so I guess I was wrong to state my experience in that area, even though I also stated my experience with male drivers?

I love how I say that I think the majority of women are good drivers, and I get villified for being a bigot and woman hater. People should read more.
 

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See how people ignore evidence, I said I view people on a case by case basis. Read much?


The topic was about misconceptions of women, so I guess I was wrong to state my experience in that area, even though I also stated my experience with male drivers?

I love how I say that I think the majority of women are good drivers, and I get villified for being a bigot and woman hater. People should read more.


Be fair, it would help if your posts made any sense, and weren't riddled with logical fallacies and internal contradictions.
 

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Be fair, it would help if your posts made any sense, and weren't riddled with logical fallacies and internal contradictions.

None of them pointed that out, they just went straight after me for being a bigoted woman hater, so they should point out these fallacies, etc, rather than attacking me because they didn't read. How about they be fair too?
 

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See how people ignore evidence, I said I view people on a case by case basis. Read much?


The topic was about misconceptions of women, so I guess I was wrong to state my experience in that area, even though I also stated my experience with male drivers?

I love how I say that I think the majority of women are good drivers, and I get villified for being a bigot and woman hater. People should read more.

I'd love you to explain to me how me pointing out that you're accusing ManlyB of something she makes clear is not the case within her first post to the thread, without me making any mention of the content of your threads means that I'm lacking the ability to read... Go on, explain it.

I made no comments what so ever about your view point, so try all you like to make this an us v them fight with me, but it won't work.

If I were to make comment on your contributions, it would be that you've shown your true colours, hoped you could get away without being pulled up on it, and you're now back peddling with all your might, throwing out "oh I'm such a victim" bollocks for good measure.
 

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None of them pointed that out, they just went straight after me for being a bigoted woman hater, so they should point out these fallacies, etc, rather than attacking me because they didn't read. How about they be fair too?


See now I think you're doing exactly what you say "they" are doing to you. Both Manly and Aconitum were at pains to point out (in some detail in fact) the exact discrepancies in your arguments I mentioned. You fixed on the accusation that you're sexist (which is an argument which could legitimately be made purely on the basis of the content of your posts in this thread) and are now using your outrage at that accusation to deflect attention away from your inability to explain the self contradictions and logical deficiencies of your argument.
 
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Not one person has called you a woman hater but yourself.

Drama queen :rolleyes:

Now now MB, even a silly woman like you can read well enough to see that he, as a man is allowed to speak for us, and knows what we mean far better than we ever could!

Now fuck off back to the kitchen and hand those car keys over to someone a little more responsible :tongue:
 

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i've only let three people drive any of my rides. the boy, the former girlie and my bestie. gender doesn't play one bit into my decision. i base their access to my babies on skill, level headedness and my trust of all three.

people in general are shit drivers. lured into a false sense of security by protective technology. distracted by entertainment technology.being completely self centered and seemingly unaware that other people share the road with them.

there are some gender lines i would feel safe calling out... women are more likely to wreck while applying lipstick than a man. a man is more likely to crash adjusting his package than a woman.

after those limited examples it's a matter of who is an asshole and who is a responsible driver.

back to the OP: i spent most of my life in dude world. in the last couple of years i've crossed over in to real girl world. i am daily stunned by the shift in how people treat me and what is considered acceptable behavior based solely on how i am dressed.

when i was a dudechick, being loud, being opinionated, being raunchy and aggressive where positive attributes. being a hardass made me tough and dependable.

once my hair grew out and my curves softened up, any dominate behavior relegated me to bitch. any opinions i held were treated as cute, or caustic.

on LPSG, when a poster things i am a male i'm treated differently. there a thread just recently where an antagonist bastard went from condescending poop-flinging to every other lady in thread.. but when i posted an objection to his drama he responded with assumed comradery and "oh, these silly women" attitude.

until he was corrected about my gender he has no idea.. after he was clued he was forced to eat a bit of crow when is obvious gender biased was throw back in his face.

not every man is going be a dick. most of the dudes i dig in real life and on LPSG gauge a person on their actions, contribution and compatibility. is why i love those dudes.
 
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None of them pointed that out, they just went straight after me for being a bigoted woman hater, so they should point out these fallacies, etc, rather than attacking me because they didn't read. How about they be fair too?

Just don't bother, ManlyBanisters just starts trouble with male posters for no reason, just put her on ignore if she doesn't apologize. It's the only way to quell the beast.