Women who come too easily

[TheRob]

He did not say he was having sex to give pleasure. He said that he loses motivation if she experiences pleasure too easily and that half the reason he has sex is pride.

That's a turn-off right there. I like having sex with a man who really wants to have sex with me because he wants to have sex with me, not because he needs to boost his ego. That's a man with issues. I've talked to enough men on LPSG who have ego-boosting-neediness to know that I really don't like it.

I appologize, I only skimmed his post initially
but I still think women have it too easy mostly

 

[TheRob]

I wish more men wanted a challenge. I can't imagine many men complaining about that. But i've got to wonder how many women even know what an orgasm even feels like. I had no idea before i discovered what it was and made noises during sex that probably gave the impression i was orgasming. It was just feeling better, but wasnt an orgasm at all. And i would also assume thats what an orgasm was "feeling even better than a second or minute before"

Just because you are making more noise or want the guy to stop for a minute because it feels so good doesn't equate orgasm. The advent of the squirting obsession has a lot to do with wanting physical proof that something is going on because women don't have a button that pops out like a turkey timer.

There is no shortage of guys around here who say that every woman orgasms during sex with "them" but when the truth be told, most women don't orgasm from sex at all. Doesn't mean it doesn't feel good, it means they aren't reaching orgasm during sex and that is something a guy just can't understand. He wouldnt be fucking like crazy if he never had an orgasm from intercourse, but women do it everyday and some even for an entire adult lifetime never knowing what an orgasm is like.

I filter out a lot of vids from the "She's definitely orgasming from big dick" where there is no indication of an orgasm as far as i can tell, but from a guys perspective i can see why he would assume that.

Only like 17% of women orgasm from sex, but somehow every guy on LPSG (a penis-centric board) is telling everyone they know that their big dick is resulting in orgasms from sex.

if you are the challenge all men are interested in a challenge baby

 

[TheRob]

There's a huge difference between complaining in a dismissive way about a woman who orgasms a lot, which makes him sound like a jackass, and being willing to try extra hard to give a woman an orgasm if she has difficulty, which is very admirable.

That desire stops being admirable if he expresses that his requirement for a challenge is because of his pride. He didn't say that he wants to find women who have a hard time having orgasms so that he can give them the orgasm that they deserve, because he feels like every woman deserves a man who will giver her one and he wants every woman he sleeps with to have a great time in bed with him and be the best lover he can be for her. He hasn't written a single thing that sounds remotely like that.

He's made it clear that he really doesn't care about her experience. It's about his ego. He needs an ego-boosting experience and he's using her to get it.

No thank you. Not for me.

sounds like most womens relationships tho to be honest...
isn't everything a little bit about ego
I mean, not to start a fight (especially after I jumped the gun abit with you earlier in the thread) but you have written in the above that it would be ok if he was saying that every woman deserved an orgasm, isn't THAT a bit of an ego honestly? I mean don't you think that there are women out there who for various potential reasons don't really deserve an orgasm?
I dunno, there are so many women out there who arn't even having orgasms you are saying basically that you'd turn some down because the reason you were getting the orgasm didn't suit you...
to me that is a heavy dose of Ego to be honest

I'm not trying to fight honest, I'm just saying what I see.

 

[TheRob]

Petite is possibly the most level-headed person on the entire site.

And your posting history points only to pig-headed selfishness. So lay off her.

I think Madom.Rouge is personally
or me
but I admit to a certain level of bias there so I discount myself from the running for my vote
there are a few pretty level heads out there tho honestly

 

[SandraSmithCarver]

I really don't see why this is such a problem. Our record (that we actually kept track of) was 45 times in an hour and a half, July 8, 2009. We're pretty sure she's beaten that record since, but we'd always lose count or just not bother keeping track.



This is almost word for word what my wife said to me when we first started having sex.

I agree with ALL of it

 

[TheRob]

If you don't give a shit about the women you fuck why should anyone give a shit what you think about their orgasm?

I guess I misread the word "girlfriend" in your post to mean someone you had a loving relationship with. If that's not the case, please go fuck yourself with something sharp.

I like your initial post but I don't think you should fuck yourself with something sharp if you have a 'girlfriend' that you arn't in love with I mean people can date and have sex becuase they like each other without it needed to be like super in love romantic fairytale time babe

still, I liked your counterpoints to Petite, similar to my line of thinking but you expressed it better I think

 

[Channelwood]

Having been both with women who come a little (or not at all) and a lot, I prefer those who come a lot. I personally derive a lot of my own pleasure from experiencing (and causing) women to orgasm. I would enjoy tremendously having sex with a woman with the ability to come in the ways that others in the thread have expressed disappointment with.

Perhaps it's just the same age-old problem of greener grass.

 

[petite]

Petite is possibly the most level-headed person on the entire site.

And your posting history points only to pig-headed selfishness. So lay off her.

That was very sweet of you to say! :kiss:

My point is that your statements in this thread have been asinine. And also that I stand behind petite, who is intelligent, caring and kind in every post she makes, even the ones in which she's responding to arseholes.

I don't think I'm always kind, intelligent, or caring. With almost 900 posts, I'm sure that if you looked through them, there are plenty of examples where I'm not. It wasn't kind of me to say that I wouldn't sleep with him or call him a jackass, but I am only human. I do have my moments of weakness. I try to be intelligent, but it probably would have been wiser just to leave this whole thread alone if he annoyed me.

I do appreciate your expression of support, though. I adore you!

dont waste your time with an 18yo who obviously models after sex from porn flicks. he doesn't care one bit about the women he sticks his thick, short dick into. best to put him in ur block list.

I agree!

I appologize, I only skimmed his post initially
but I still think women have it too easy mostly

Sure.

sounds like most womens relationships tho to be honest...
isn't everything a little bit about ego
I mean, not to start a fight (especially after I jumped the gun abit with you earlier in the thread) but you have written in the above that it would be ok if he was saying that every woman deserved an orgasm, isn't THAT a bit of an ego honestly? I mean don't you think that there are women out there who for various potential reasons don't really deserve an orgasm?
I dunno, there are so many women out there who arn't even having orgasms you are saying basically that you'd turn some down because the reason you were getting the orgasm didn't suit you...
to me that is a heavy dose of Ego to be honest

I'm not trying to fight honest, I'm just saying what I see.

Your argument only works if you define "ego" in a broader sense than the way I was conveying in my posts.

What I was attempting to convey was that treating sex with a woman like a video game in which one becomes bored of a game that is too easy to win is a perspective on women and sex that I abhor.

I feel that when a man and woman are in bed together, that it should be just the two of them in bed with one another, their attention and focus on one another's pleasure and needs.

If I failed to convey that, I apologize. I am not always very articulate when I try to make my points, since they are sometimes misinterpreted.

I still feel that his dismissive attitude towards her pleasure was disturbing. That's just how I feel about it. I feel that my example with the roles reversed expresses my reasoning.

Let's switch the male/female roles and see if it makes more sense to you. If a woman said, "Well, I had his cock in my mouth and he was just moaning so much and telling me how unbelievable it felt and having such a great time. His legs were shaking and everything. He just couldn't control himself. It really ruined the experience for me. I really don't even feel like doing it again. I mean really, did he have to enjoy himself so much?".

If would sound like she actually despises men to some extent, wouldn't it? There would be something deeply wrong with her attitude toward men and sex if she said that.

 

[Keleios]

Nothing father then a mild infatuation.

Quite the Freudian slip.

If I build a quality wagon really quickly instead of taking a year to do it, I will still have a quality wagon. I will gain great pleasure from the knowledge that I built that wagon and will take great pride in it, as well as frequent rides, a lot of shopping and maybe a few friends for an adventure.
I wouldn't see fit to complain because it didn't take long to build. I'd just be damn happy that I had a wagon.

Gillette:

During sex, absolutely one should want their partner to experience pleasure, but I think it's only natural to want to be a part of that pleasure

Gecko4lif:

So yeah I dont really care about the girls I fuck to a great extend.

Doesn't really sound like he gives a shit about pleasure other than his own.
Does sound though like he wants to be the special little snowflake who gives a woman something no other man could, hence his pride in his own performance being lessened because he wasn't required to do much of it before he got a result.

Anyway, he's being an ass and if he wants to continue treating sex like a game where you can be pissy if you win too easily, that's up to him.

I'm with TeamPetite on this and IT'S WAGON TIME.

 

[Over-reaching]

No. Not at all. Sounds like your projecting.

I can see petite's point though. Assuming that the reason you're having sex is (a) to enjoy yourself but also (b) to help her to enjoy herself too, then it does seem a little odd?

 

[petite]

I can see petite's point though. Assuming that the reason you're having sex is (a) to enjoy yourself but also (b) to help her to enjoy herself too, then it does seem a little odd?

Just a curiosity...

You don't really believe that I'm projecting do you?

If anyone has extrapolated that me getting annoyed by OP means that it described me and TheBoyfriend, then I must defend my man's honor as a sensitive, attentive, and satisfying lover, because I think he's the kind of stud that women imagine in their fantasies and young men should aspire to become.

I'm fine with people criticizing me, but I'm not okay with unflattering and untrue assumptions about him. He's lovely.

 

[Over-reaching]

Just a curiosity...

You don't really believe that I'm projecting do you?

If anyone has extrapolated that me getting annoyed by OP means that it described me and TheBoyfriend, then I must defend my man's honor as a sensitive, attentive, and satisfying lover, because I think he's the kind of stud that women imagine in their fantasies and young men should aspire to become.

I'm fine with people criticizing me, but I'm not okay with unflattering and untrue assumptions about him. He's lovely.

I have to say that when I read your comment the idea that you were projecting did not occur to me.

My suspicion is too (though I don't know, of course) that the OP has painted himself into a corner (or been painted into one, perhaps), in that he simply asked a question on an internet forum and has found himself defending himself against adverse criticism. I don't really know that he meant that he doesn't enjoy sex with a woman or orgasms easily or a lot, or that he'd wish to deny her that pleasure, merely that it takes one aspect of the "game" away for him. (Myself, I love being with a highly orgasmic woman, but that doesn't mean that I don't enjoy sex with one who isn't nor that I don't want to help her to enjoy herself, through orgasm and/or other means. There are few "absolutes" in this.)

 

[AlteredEgo]

The problem is you have nothing to aim for anymore besides you yourself cumming

Um... Aim for a new record number of orgasms? Or just aim to enjoy her pleasure. Goal-oriented sex pisses me off.

 

[Kotchanski]

Is it really wanting an ego boost or simply wanting to know that he is providing the stimulation to garner the reaction?

I know I certainly wouldn't be happy in a relationship where the reaction could equally have come from me or a slight breeze coming in from an open window... Yes it's wonderful that she can achieve something many women can't, and granted she can have multiples, but a large part of sex is pleasing the other person and the amazing feeling you get from pleasing them, unless of course you're a selfish prick only in it for yourself, happy to bang away until you shoot regardless of what she has or hasn't had? That part of sex is sorely diminished if it takes little to no effort and you know that it really doesn't matter what's happening, she's going to orgasm anyway.

The OP may not be the best when it comes to expressing himself, but I don't see any reason for the pseudo-psych bollocks going on in this thread, he's at the very least one up from all those who want more orgasmic women so that they can brag about how manly they are with over inflated numbers all over the internet.

 

[expatinkl]

My wife is like that; I love it because she multi orgasms and they get more intense with each one until I cum in her. Its no problem for her and no problem for me. She will squirt on orgasm number 4 or 5 which is great because I love her juice gushing in my mouth. I have had lovers who take ages to cum and wheres I enjoy maknig them cum I prefer a girl who cums quite quickly because you can have more fun, in my opionion, because you don't have to worry about her cumming

 

[Gillette]

I still feel that his dismissive attitude towards her pleasure was disturbing. That's just how I feel about it. I feel that my example with the roles reversed expresses my reasoning.

Let's switch the male/female roles and see if it makes more sense to you. If a woman said, "Well, I had his cock in my mouth and he was just moaning so much and telling me how unbelievable it felt and having such a great time. His legs were shaking and everything. He just couldn't control himself. It really ruined the experience for me. I really don't even feel like doing it again. I mean really, did he have to enjoy himself so much?".

If would sound like she actually despises men to some extent, wouldn't it? There would be something deeply wrong with her attitude toward men and sex if she said that.

Sure, it expresses your reasoning but it's not reflective of what he said and that's where you're projecting. Your example isn't a revesal of what he actually wrote but a reversal of what you read into his OP. That's you projecting your feelings on the matter onto something that wasn't said or more likely you're projecting your dislike of the poster himself (exhibited by your carping on him for not doing a search before starting a thread even though you'd done the very same shortly before) into your reading of his posts.

Unfortunately for your point to have any validity your role switch needs to be balanced. It isn't.

This would only be an accurate role switch had he said, "Well, I had my mouth on her and she was just moaning so much and telling me how unbelievable it felt and having such a great time. Her legs were shaking and everything. She just couldn't control herself. It really ruined the experience for me. I really don't even feel like doing it again. I mean really, did she have to enjoy herself so much?"

Which he didn't say.

An accurate role switch would read as follows.
"My ex-boyfriend came doing ANYTHING. It was ridiculous.
My goal is always to make my man cum but when your[sic] cumming 3 licks in it really takes away my motivation.
50% of the reason I even have sex is pride.
Have any of you girls encountered men like this?"

Simply put there's nothing in the OP that indicates that he's dismissive of her orgasms or that he's unhappy that she's experiencing pleasure during sex. I read it as his dissapointment that he wasn't more an integral part of it.

We all like to feel that we "do it" for our partners. I don't think any of us would enjoy the feeling that "we'll do" just as well as anyone else. It's disheartening.

Compare and contrast.

"OMG! I've never cum so hard in all my life as I did with you!"
vs.
"OMG! I've always cum so hard all my life with everyone I've slept with!"

Anyone who can honestly say they've no preference to which they'd rather hear is just plain weird.

 

[petite]

I have to say that when I read your comment the idea that you were projecting did not occur to me.

My suspicion is too (though I don't know, of course) that the OP has painted himself into a corner (or been painted into one, perhaps), in that he simply asked a question on an internet forum and has found himself defending himself against adverse criticism. I don't really know that he meant that he doesn't enjoy sex with a woman or orgasms easily or a lot, or that he'd wish to deny her that pleasure, merely that it takes one aspect of the "game" away for him. (Myself, I love being with a highly orgasmic woman, but that doesn't mean that I don't enjoy sex with one who isn't nor that I don't want to help her to enjoy herself, through orgasm and/or other means. There are few "absolutes" in this.)

Oh absolutely! The logic wherein one would say "By saying that you think you're a nice person means that you believe everyone else isn't nice" is absurd. I would never use such an unfair and illogical arguing tactic.

And so I should say that I never said that he didn't enjoy himself in bed with her and I understood the point about taking away one aspect of the "game." My problem is that I don't think he should treat sex like a "game" at all. I was trying to express that before.

I wrote my responses to Gecko after having read his posts in a dozen other threads. He's been posting a lot and the more posts of his I read, the lower and lower my opinion has become. I did not have a high opinion of him before I encountered this thread.

I never said the he doesn't enjoy himself, but he did imply that by being highly orgasmic that she is somehow damaging his pride, by depriving him of the opportunity to be the one who provides her with her pleasure, which is an attitude on women and sex that just seems wrong. That's just my opinion on the matter.

At any point he could backtracked and retracted or rephrased the points where he said that he loses interest and that 50% of the reason why he has sex is pride and said as much, such as when RawDog pointed out that he said something logically inconsistent. Instead he persisted adding more defending points that made him look like a jerk, like when he responded to the man who said that the OP models his sex life after porn, he said

So yeah I dont really care about the girls I fuck

Honest? Probably, but he couldn't really expect that he would seem less like a jerk after writing it, or that his complaints about her orgasms would be adequately defended writing that.

Is it really wanting an ego boost or simply wanting to know that he is providing the stimulation to garner the reaction?

I know I certainly wouldn't be happy in a relationship where the reaction could equally have come from me or a slight breeze coming in from an open window... Yes it's wonderful that she can achieve something many women can't, and granted she can have multiples, but a large part of sex is pleasing the other person and the amazing feeling you get from pleasing them, unless of course you're a selfish prick only in it for yourself, happy to bang away until you shoot regardless of what she has or hasn't had? That part of sex is sorely diminished if it takes little to no effort and you know that it really doesn't matter what's happening, she's going to orgasm anyway.

The OP may not be the best when it comes to expressing himself, but I don't see any reason for the pseudo-psych bollocks going on in this thread, he's at the very least one up from all those who want more orgasmic women so that they can brag about how manly they are with over inflated numbers all over the internet.

Maybe it's just me, but I would never say that half the reason I have sex is pride. That's just odd to me.

It hadn't occurred to me that being multi-orgasmic might be somehow be a blow to male pride or selfish in bed. Maybe she should try not to have orgasms so that he feels better about having given them to her? See, that just sounds ridiculous. It isn't something worth complaining about.

Like I wrote above, he's had pages and pages to clarify his point, and instead of retracting or rephrasing anything he wrote in the OP, he's just made himself look like more and more of a jerk.

 

[RawDog]

at:

Not my most well thought out moment

Thanks for admitting your mistake.

Coming from a guy who lusted after his second cousin I cant say I hold your opinion in high esteem

This judgement from a guy who doesn't know what a second cousin is?

Seriously, these many pages quibbling over his motivations and how he phrased his sentences misses the point entirely.

He's a troll.

 

[Kotchanski]

Oh absolutely! The logic wherein one would say "By saying that you think you're a nice person means that you believe everyone else isn't nice" is absurd. I would never use such an unfair and illogical arguing tactic.

I wrote my responses to Gecko after having read his posts in a dozen other threads. He's been posting a lot and the more posts of his I read, the lower and lower my opinion has become. I did not have a high opinion of him before I encountered this thread.

I never said the he doesn't enjoy himself, but he did imply that by being highly orgasmic that she is somehow damaging his pride, by depriving him of the opportunity to be the one who provides her with her pleasure, which is an attitude on women and sex that just seems wrong. That's just my opinion on the matter.

At any point he could backtracked and retracted or rephrased the points where he said that he loses interest and that 50% of the reason why he has sex is pride and said as much, such as when RawDog pointed out that he said something logically inconsistent. Instead he persisted adding more defending points that made him look like a jerk, like when he responded to the man who said that the OP models his sex life after porn, he said



Honest? Probably, but he couldn't really expect that he would seem less like a jerk after writing it, or that his complaints about her orgasms would be adequately defended writing that.



Maybe it's just me, but I would never say that half the reason I have sex is pride. That's just odd to me.

It hadn't occurred to me that being multi-orgasmic might be somehow be a blow to male pride or selfish in bed. Maybe she should try not to have orgasms so that he feels better about having given them to her? See, that just sounds ridiculous. It isn't something worth complaining about.

Like I wrote above, he's had pages and pages to clarify his point, and instead of retracting or rephrasing anything he wrote in the OP, he's just made himself look like more and more of a jerk.

Next time just shorten it to "I'm right, I'm not listening" it'll make for a much easier read.

He's not made himself look like a jerk, you're making yourself look pretty silly beating your head against that wall you've built for yourself though.

 

[petite]

Next time just shorten it to "I'm right, I'm not listening" it'll make for a much easier read.

He's not made himself look like a jerk, you're making yourself look pretty silly beating your head against that wall you've built for yourself though.

I don't doubt that I often look silly on LPSG, but sometimes I do respond to people whom I think are worth responding to because I think they're worth responding to, even in really dumb threads.

Seriously, these many pages quibbling over his motivations and how he phrased his sentences misses the point entirely.

He's a troll.

Like you, RawDog, I'll probably always respond to you!

Yes, I agree. No more quibbling!