Women who WANT to be ruined

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Some damn fine responses in here, great material.

"...ruin her by taking her credit cards." Had me lol!

All I can say is that all your responses are valid. There isn't one wrong perspective here.

I've written an interesting piece of erotica. Many parts of the story are true, bridged together out of sequence and being an Amalgam of more than one woman I have been with, who had similar sexual journeys. I also intend to shoot it as something different than a "porno", but as an episode of a series anthology that explores the various aspects our culture's diverse sexuality.

Actual stories, with convincing acting that is good enough, you think you're watching an episode of one of the better TV series on the networks right now, up until they both go into the bedroom together and it does NOT fade to black, but goes on to show you the entire act of lovemaking, shot with low lighting rather than the harsh glare of work lights from Home Depo. And with none of the shots that make you cringe, but showing you every inch just the same.

Somebody mentioned cuckoldery. Yes, that is one of the various reasons why this issue comes up.

I'm my story, the husband has no interest in cuckuldery, humiliation or in being a slave to some, hung black bull. I've stripped away all the stereotypes and boiled it down to the core of what turns each one of them on about it.

Instead, he discovers something called "compersion" and finds that he simply wants to explore this new level of ecstacy he is experiencing. And he wants to share it with his wife and for her to experience "compersion" also.

And I would like to share it with you. This may not be everybody's cup of tea, but I hope somebody gets off on it.

I'll post part one here and the whole thing over in the fiction section under the same heading on this thread:

Part one:

The first time I mentioned to Tina that the mere thought of seeing her having sex with another man intoxicated me beyond orgasm, she didn’t have the slightest inkling at the time what she would willingly and eagerly be giving up. In fact, she was very upset at me for even bringing it up at all.

Tina is a gorgeous five foot four redhead with large D-cup breasts and that perfect balance of softness and firmness and a nearly perfect hourglass figure. She was a virgin when we met and the first time we made love she was intimidated by the size of my 7-inch cock. It didn’t take her long to get used to it, however.

It’s not like I just woke up one morning wanting to share her with another man. I had feelings of jealousy and that sick, horrified feeling if she ever betrayed me.

The first time I was turned on by the thought of her with another man was the same day I introduced her to the nude beach. And like most females confronted with the idea of being exposed to a smorgasbord of other naked bodies, she said she might only go topless, which was fine by me.

A thought that hadn’t occurred to me until we were both naked (Tina topless) on the beach was that Tina would undoubtedly pay attention to the variety of cocks and might be aroused by some of them. The thought that she might see one that turned her on more than mine gave me a twinge of jealousy, and another as yet unidentified feeling I was not ready to acknowledge. I quickly dismissed it because I knew how she felt about me and had confidence in her love and loyalty.

Remember how I was worried that she might see a cock that turned her on more than mine? Well, wouldn’t you know it, just as we finished laying out our beach blanket and setting up our umbrella, that a young attractive man walks by waving a friendly greeting. I saw what he had between his legs and just knew he was going to stop for a chat. I hoped she wasn’t going to wave back, which she did.

A part of me didn’t want her to look at his cock. But he was already on his way over and it was inevitable. I was more nervous about it than I wanted to be and hoped neither of them would notice.

I hazarded another glance at his cock as he entered the circle of shadow cast by our extra large umbrella. He did not try to sit but just stood there thanking us for sharing our shade. His cock was easily as large, soft, as mine was hard and maybe a little longer.

Tina, who had remained seated, was actually close to eye level with it. As I watched her, I noted that for the most part she tried to avoid looking at it. But when her eyes did center on it, her eyes went a little wider and her jaw slackened noticeably. And even though she quickly regained her composure, when she spoke, trading small talk with the stranger, I could tell she had become nervous.

The small talk continued for a few more minutes until he excused himself and continued down the beach. I don’t know why I felt this way, but I wanted him to leave, worried that he might start getting an erection while she watched. Talk about an uncomfortable moment.

A number of hours later I needed very badly to visit the porta potty, which meant putting on my jeans and taking a walk, and hoping the closest one was unoccupied. I left Tina alone, taking the emergency bog roll with me.

While I sat there relieving myself in that urine and plastic scented hotbox, I wondered how Tina would react if that mysterious stranger came back and hit on her while I was away. And I wondered at that moment just how intrigued she was by seeing his cock so closely. I took it a little further and asked myself, what if this guy turned her on so much, and after seeing that he was getting an erection, decided to have sex with him?

This of course caused an even stronger twinge of jealousy than before. And of course I was being ridiculous because I knew her to be a woman who treasured honesty.

But while I sat there thinking about it, something interesting happened. The more I thought about it, the more I realized I was getting turned on by it. I imagined coming back, catching them in the act and found that in addition to feeling hurt by her betrayal, that I was also intoxicated by the idea of her having sex with another man. This part surprised me because I did not think it was possible before that moment.

I walked most of the way back with an obvious erection. By the time I reached our blanket (she was still alone), it had subsided and I could take off my jeans again.

My epiphany was, after removing the potential for betrayal from the equation, I found myself intensely turned on by the thought and it completely overwhelmed any sense of jealousy I had.

I thought perhaps there was another side to jealousy that nobody ever talks about, and that we have only been looking at the negative side of it all this time. From that day forward, Jealousy no longer mattered. I just wanted to explore this new feeling more fully and find a way to share it with Tina so she could explore it with me.

It was after our trip to the nude beach, that I told about my fantasy to see her with another man, for the first time. She was upset because she was surprised that I would even think of her with any other man and she went through the usual set of feelings. After she realized it wasn’t just an excuse for me to later have other women, or that it wasn’t that I didn’t really love her, or any of the other reasons women have about being shared like this, it still took her a long time before she was ready to experience it.

She finally confided in me one day that since I was her first, that she had given it a lot of thought and since I was giving her permission to play, that she wanted to have additional sexual adventures. It wasn’t long after that, that she experienced a cock in her other than mine.

 

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bigbens said:
"Ruined" makes no sense to me, but "spoiling" a woman is something I once experienced. I became acquainted with an attractive young woman whose somewhat pushy personality didn't particularly agree with me, but because she'd heard the rumors that I was very well hung, she came on to me very strongly and we began a strictly sexual relationship. In short, the sex was fantastic but somewhat unusual because she was totally cock-sized obsessed. She never noticed that I was tender and considerate...all that mattered was "the biggest she'd ever had." After six months ago I was ready to move on and the breakup was odd because, as she put it, "I'll never find a cock like that again in my life!" My personality and looks meant nothing....all she cared about was the meat.

Any wonder why I broke up with her? (Still, I wonder what she's up today... years later.)

I've had a fairly similar experience..The women falls in love with your penis and little else..You could be the nicest, most considerate, even best looking guy around..And somehow the only thing that matters is the 'meat' as you say..

Shallow and pointless :rolleyes:

-MG
 

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Honey Bee said:
:naughty: Please... I guess I'm ruined... or should I say "spoiled"... I will not consider anyone who is not XL...

So, who wants to spoil me more????

I do love deepthroating :eek: a big hunking sausage... SUCH a turnon.
:blowjob:

:wink:
And what do you consider to be an XL penis? I often wonder as some women consider an 8 incher to be huge.
 

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Marvin Gaye said:
I've had a fairly similar experience..The women falls in love with your penis and little else..You could be the nicest, most considerate, even best looking guy around..And somehow the only thing that matters is the 'meat' as you say..

Shallow and pointless :rolleyes:

-MG


I wasted about 4-5 years with a girl just for that reason alone seemingly...

OmahaBeef
 

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OmahaBeef said:
I wasted about 4-5 years with a girl just for that reason alone seemingly...

OmahaBeef

Yeah..

You stay in it for the sex..Expecially if you're a younger cat..Maybe 21-25..But as you move into your 30's. Grow and mature..It can be a frustrating and lonely experience to say the least. The kind I want no part of now..

-MG
 

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Sorcerer said:
This term comes straight from cuckold fantasies.

You are absolutely correct sir. In my wanderings through cyberspace I have spent quite a few hours on these cuckold sites. They are a peculiar male fantasy. Mainly held by men who are smaller than average. You may even hear women say some of the things from these fantasies to other women in real life.

The other day my gf was talking to a female friend of hers on the phone. The woman was telling her of an experience she had with a man who had a very small penis. She said that she stopped dating him because of this. My gf even said "Well it's not your fault he is so small." This very similar to something in these staged scenarios that the women often repeat to their cuckold husbands. "It's not my fault you are so small and can't satisfy me."

The only difference between reality and fantasy in this case is the fixation on the humiliation aspect. For some reason these guys get off on the humiliation. And the women who love them entertain this fantasy for them. Perhaps some of these women are never satisfied with a smaller penis again. But my guess is that there is much more to a relationship than the size of the man's penis. Unless of course the guy keeps making it the issue, and his insecurity starts to get the better of him. I think that true love overcomes these things. But then again, I am just a hopeless romantic.
 

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Marvin Gaye said:
I've had a fairly similar experience..The women falls in love with your penis and little else..You could be the nicest, most considerate, even best looking guy around..And somehow the only thing that matters is the 'meat' as you say..

Shallow and pointless :rolleyes:

-MG

I have also had a similar experience. And to add insult to injury, 12 years after we broke up I saw her again at a friend's house. After hanging out for a while she made it known that she wanted to see it and feel it again. This from a woman who had stabbed me in the shoulder before I decided to split up with her. Of course she claims she doesn't remember stabbing me in the shoulder. How ironic.
 

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Marvin Gaye said:
Yeah..

You stay in it for the sex..Expecially if you're a younger cat..Maybe 21-25..But as you move into your 30's. Grow and mature..It can be a frustrating and lonely experience to say the least. The kind I want no part of now..

-MG

I second that.
 

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I thought Jeff Black explained the spoiled/ruined difference beautifully.

I already assumed the guy who started this thread meant "ruined" in a figurative way....not literally as physically damaged.
 

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Pirate Wench said:
I thought Jeff Black explained the spoiled/ruined difference beautifully.

I already assumed the guy who started this thread meant "ruined" in a figurative way....not literally as physically damaged.
Yes Ruined in as ruined for the next guy:smile:
 

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Very thoughtful discussion. You've given me a lot of valuable insight that will help me to add depth to the story I wrote.

The main thing I see here is that not every woman is the same. And apparently, only a small percentage of women have reached that point of no return. As a writer, it is always my goal to explore all the thoughts and feelings surounding any issue. One of the key points in the story is when Tina, the wife of David, is having sex with her lover who is subtantially larger than her husband, realizes that she could easily become "spoiled", knowing that this means potentially diminished desire for David's smaller cock. Its about what she decides to do in the moment of truth.

Also, to define it as only a "cuckold fantasy" is to limit the awareness that there are always variations on a theme. Fantasies involving men who want to see their wives/girlfriends "spoiled" by a larger cock do not always involve humiliation.

In fact, I think maybe the men who are turned on by this may became "cuckold" because it is a widely accepted stereotype, trying to find some way to define why they are turned on by this.

What if the "humiliation" was only a byproduct? Or a cultural stigma attached to man who finds he enjoys this activity.

So, what if a man pursued this purely on the basis that it was the most pure and intense ecstacy he had ever experienced and wanted just her to share in it.


It's an exploration of something that has probably been around for as long as man, privately speaking. And decided to write about the essence of the experience, minus the cuckoldery and especially the humiliation. Because I actually think that would get in the way of the experience.

Anyway, I'm still editing on it but will post a chapter soon.

';)
 

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Reading all this about cuckolding, I asked a friend of mine who is into this (and actually doing it for quite a long time now) why he's into this.

This is his answer, the main points:

'Cuckolding' most likely comes from the behaviour of the cuckoo where the alpha-male mates with a female, leave it to her and her male to take care for the eggs and moves on to the next female to do the same.

In cuckolding the 'original' relationship between the female and the male continues, there is no intention to stop that at all. The only thing happening is adding an 'alpha-male' to the relationship whose role is: sexually pleasing the female, sometimes even in front of the male.

My friends drives to do this are:
- submission to his wife (NOT the alpha-male)
- humiliation
- jealousy (is a real turn on for him)
- voyeurism
- fear (which gives him a real adrenaline/epinephrin-boost)
- some unknown factors

I know this is only brief, there is much more info where this came from though, feel free to ask.

Ingrid
 

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My grandmother used to say "ruined" to mean "spoiled" Here's the scenerio. "Your grandfather has 'ruined' that girl."

This was usually after bratty behavior by his favorite grandchild to whom my grandfather would cater to and even encourage to be bratty.

So in that case ruined = spoiled.

Hugs and Kisses,

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50%more said:
I have also had a similar experience. And to add insult to injury, 12 years after we broke up I saw her again at a friend's house. After hanging out for a while she made it known that she wanted to see it and feel it again. This from a woman who had stabbed me in the shoulder before I decided to split up with her. Of course she claims she doesn't remember stabbing me in the shoulder. How ironic.

It would seem that we have had pretty similar experiences..

Fortunately for me, it was minus the violence..And the 12 years (wow that is some dedicated time on your part)..I was involved for no longer than (off and on) maybe three years with the last women of that ilk we're speaking of here..

Now, I can read 'em 100 miles away and stear clear fast..

-MG
 

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uncut said:
Yes Ruined in as ruined for the next guy:smile:

This guy nows what he's talking about.

I am certain that what the thread starter was talking/fantasising about was a pretty extreme, violent penetration that would be painful and probably cause bleeding to the woman, but not leave her permanently damaged. It is a variation on a common fantasy: the reason most guys like it when a girl says theyre so big theyre hurting her (but only a little).

Edit: I don't, by the way, share his fantasy. Lol, rereading my post, I sounded pretty pervy.
 

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I had a friend who was married at a young age to a stud with a 9 inch cock. This guy turned out to be a real asshole and she divorced him. She said with a couple of average guys she later dated she just couldn't get off. Then one fella came up with the ingenious idea of putting two or three ping pong balls up her first. She again felt filled up and started coming again every time they had sex. I guess it depends if you are willing to stick ping pong balls up your pussy.:biggrin1:
 

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kittykat said:
I had a friend who was married at a young age to a stud with a 9 inch cock. This guy turned out to be a real asshole and she divorced him. She said with a couple of average guys she later dated she just couldn't get off. Then one fella came up with the ingenious idea of putting two or three ping pong balls up her first. She again felt filled up and started coming again every time they had sex. I guess it depends if you are willing to stick ping pong balls up your pussy.:biggrin1:

Ah. No! :eek: