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I'd like to know how other people feel or think about this.

Last year in college I had this economics class and the teacher informed us that we've had global crisis like this before with countries owing lots of debts.
The solution in the past was called WW1 and WW2.
After the events of WW1 and WW2 the nations came together and decided to bring the balance back to zero and everybody could start with a clean slate.

I've also read about plans of the US government to get rid of the dollar and introduce a stronger currency to compete with the Euro and the Yen.
This would be the Amero as in the entire continent of America would be using this currency.

I don't think the U.S people would agree to share their currency with Mexico or Canada unless something extreme were to bring them together like a global war.

Seeing how Israel, Iran and the surrounding country's are getting more and more aggressive this could be start of a global war. Israel is backed by the U.S and eastern Europe and Iran is backed by Russia and China as they are a major weapons supplier of the middle east.

For me this would also explain why the Bush administration went overboard with a debt of $16.000.000.000.000 I don't even know what number that's called anymore. But it would make sense if you knew you wouldn't have to pay back a dime when after the war all debts are cleared again.

If a war were to begin I don't think it would last very long as the globalisation has made us pretty much dependant on each other.


This is not a doomsday prophecy just an attempt to tie things together in order to make sense of it, but maybe it is all just random.
I welcome any critics or flaws being pointed out but do keep it respectfull.
This is a discussion board and would like to keep it that way.
 

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They did't set all debts to zero (a jubilee, as practised in the Old Testament every 49 years) after WW1 and 2. The war activity and arms production had increased the size of the economies of the victors, ending their recessions. The UK has only recently paid off the last of the war debt incurred to the USA in the Lend/Lease Programme.
 

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I think we're on the brink of some massive change.

Poverty, violence and corruption are becoming acceptable.
Politicians and bankers have lost their credibility.
The world is in turmoil.

Cometh the hour, cometh the man..... or woman !

If a war were to begin I don't think it would last very long as the globalisation has made us pretty much dependant on each other.

Is this assuming we (Western Democracies etc) would emerge victorious in some way ?

A new world order is coming ....... I just hope it isn't fundamentalist, extreme or leads to even more oppression. !
 

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Dependant on each other?

Sorry but the Middle Easterners want us all to know that they aren't dependant on even basic rationality, let alone the big, evil, USA.

These people murder everyone they see because they think we will realize that they're serious and zero tolerance to anyone who stands against them.

What they've actually done is make the whole world realize that they're fucking nuts and need to be wiped out.
 

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Dependant on each other?

Sorry but the Middle Easterners want us all to know that they aren't dependant on even basic rationality, let alone the big, evil, USA.

These people murder everyone they see because they think we will realize that they're serious and zero tolerance to anyone who stands against them.

What they've actually done is make the whole world realize that they're fucking nuts and need to be wiped out.

now cobra runs sleeper cells...?
 

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I'd like to know how other people feel or think about this.

Last year in college I had this economics class and the teacher informed us that we've had global crisis like this before with countries owing lots of debts.
The solution in the past was called WW1 and WW2.
After the events of WW1 and WW2 the nations came together and decided to bring the balance back to zero and everybody could start with a clean slate.
if the only reason for war was debts, we would live in a very poor world. - and at least for WW1 your teacher was wrong about the to high debts...

but correct is, that it was way easier after WW2 to eliminate the debts by inlfation - just out of the reason that europe and the usa was nearly the whole world economy. this has changed now - we are a more polipol world and economy.

if you would like to erase debts after a WW, you would need whole europe, the usa, brasil, china india and japan for it.

I've also read about plans of the US government to get rid of the dollar and introduce a stronger currency to compete with the Euro and the Yen.
This would be the Amero as in the entire continent of America would be using this currency.
i doubt the usa will give up the dollar
1. its one of only a few "traditions" the usa has (just cause the usa doesnt exist as long as other nations)
2. the us economy needs a weak currency

I don't think the U.S people would agree to share their currency with Mexico or Canada unless something extreme were to bring them together like a global war.
lol - mexico and the usa share one currency, the result would be even more worse as greece and germany in a currency union :biggrin1:

Seeing how Israel, Iran and the surrounding country's are getting more and more aggressive this could be start of a global war. Israel is backed by the U.S and eastern Europe and Iran is backed by Russia and China as they are a major weapons supplier of the middle east.
and no one of the big 3 would start a war for iran or israel

For me this would also explain why the Bush administration went overboard with a debt of $16.000.000.000.000 I don't even know what number that's called anymore. But it would make sense if you knew you wouldn't have to pay back a dime when after the war all debts are cleared again.
the gov knows anyway that the never pay their debts back - you dont need to start a war to think so...
and its called trillion :wink:

If a war were to begin I don't think it would last very long as the globalisation has made us pretty much dependant on each other.
it wouldnt last very long IF the middle east and kongo / angola couldnt deliver any oil or some one would use A-Bombs


This is not a doomsday prophecy just an attempt to tie things together in order to make sense of it, but maybe it is all just random.
I welcome any critics or flaws being pointed out but do keep it respectfull.
This is a discussion board and would like to keep it that way.


but we will see what happens as soon as the China/Japan - war starts, just cause of some stones in the yellow sea
 
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Dependant on each other?

Sorry but the Middle Easterners want us all to know that they aren't dependant on even basic rationality, let alone the big, evil, USA.

These people murder everyone they see because they think we will realize that they're serious and zero tolerance to anyone who stands against them.

What they've actually done is make the whole world realize that they're fucking nuts and need to be wiped out.

Well your name says it all.
Welcome to the world you want, masterofmalice.
 

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I don't think there is any prospect of an American continent single currency. Some pretty basic economic concepts say that you need a debt union, banking union and fiscal union before a single currency can work - and a debt, banking and fiscal union pretty much means a single nation. The EuroZone demonstrates the folly of a single currency without being a single nation, and the only solution on the cards is for the EuroZone to become in effect a United States of Europe.

There are theoretical options for the dollar and other currencies to agree some sort of floating peg, ie central banks will intervene to ensure stability. It is very hard to see how a gold standard could work in the world we're now in - yet there's also a tendency for fiat currencies to get into trouble after so many years. There is a reasonable view that we need to find some new global currency solution, and the USA would be part of that.

Debt forgiveness sounds great until we think about what it means. Sovereign debt is bonds which are held by pension schemes, savings schemes and underwrite insurance. Forgiveness of sovereign debt means ordinary people say goodbye to their savings and pensions. Rather I think the US and others have to find a way to service their debts, or if they have to default go through a structured haircut to minimise the pain.

In almost every nation the debt level is such that we have not only spent every last penny that is available now but have also spent all the money for the next two or three generations. The idea sometimes advanced that we can somehow borrow more to get out of this crisis is IMO simply wrong - people sometimes think they are proposing a Keynesian solution, yet IMO the idea comes from a imperfect idea of Keynes. Rather austerity is the only option. In the USA neither Democrats nor Republicans are being honest to the voters about the changes needed. There have to be at the same time bigger tax rises and bigger expenditure cuts than most in America can imagine. The honest presidential candidate would now be campaigning on a platform which set out how much poorer the USA will be in four years' time, how much more tax the average citizen will pay.

The problem with austerity is the backlash. We've seen this today in Greece, yesterday in Spain, and there are protest movements just about everywhere. And if our world gets it wrong we're looking at civil unrest, war, economic collapse.

Right now the collapse of the euro and all EuroZone economies is a thinkable outcome - not likely, but nonetheless possible. Right now a debt spiral in the USA leading to a crash is thinkable - again not likely but it could happen. And there is even the possibility of both happening together. If so we're looking at some new collapse of the Roman Empire. Forget saving and investing - buy baked beans!
 

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our economy is constantly being dragged down because of war.
18% of our taxes already goes to paying for past wars and another 36% is spent for current and future wars.

Is the US economy not totally dependand apon war? Mlilitary-industrial complex?
Probably some conspiracy....
 
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Dude. What are you smoking? The Canadians would never accept such a downgrade.
 

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Well your name says it all.
Welcome to the world you want, masterofmalice.

Go ahead and tell me that drawing a picture of your prophet gives you the right to storm embassies and murder at will. (now)

Go ahead and tell me that invading a sovereign nation gives you the right to bitch when their ally comes to assist them. (Vietnam)

Go ahead and tell me that sucker-punching a massive industrial monster gives you the right to bitch when they drop a hammer on you so big you didn't even theorize its existence, and then when you still act like an ass a second hammer gets dropped, just to show you that we have a whole bucket full of hammers. (WWII)

Whether you agree with our war against them or not, the undeniable reality is these jerk-offs have been murdering each other for thousands of years and there are a whole assload of these crazy fuckers who want nothing less than the complete genocide of every man, woman, and child on all of planet Earth who doesn't completely agree with them.

Oh, and if you're from Europe, you're welcome. D-Day was our pleasure.
 
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Go ahead and tell me that drawing a picture of your prophet gives you the right to storm embassies and murder at will. (now)

Go ahead and tell me that invading a sovereign nation gives you the right to bitch when their ally comes to assist them. (Vietnam)

Go ahead and tell me that sucker-punching a massive industrial monster gives you the right to bitch when they drop a hammer on you so big you didn't even theorize its existence, and then when you still act like an ass a second hammer gets dropped, just to show you that we have a whole bucket full of hammers. (WWII)

Whether you agree with our war against them or not, the undeniable reality is these jerk-offs have been murdering each other for thousands of years and there are a whole assload of these crazy fuckers who want nothing less than the complete genocide of every man, woman, and child on all of planet Earth who doesn't completely agree with them.

Oh, and if you're from Europe, you're welcome. D-Day was our pleasure.
do i get it right?
everyone acts like an asshole, that gives us the right to be the biggest asshole - but at the same time, we lie to ourself and say we only do good...

about d-day... as mutch as i know, you have to be forced to join WW2. - the only time in history you really could do something good, the american population didnt want to. - i guess it says enough
 
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