that_other_guy said:i really have no idea ... honest
it wouldn't be that hard to do better than Bush ... but the government is more than just the president, so the issue only becomes that much more mind numbing
Stronzo said:Yeah me too NIC.
The thing that really appealed to me (beyond all the political speculation) was that he came across as genuine and "statesmanlike". My sense is that in a world where dignity and polish comes off as arrogance and elitism the guy didn't stand a fighting chance.
Stronzo said:My sense is that in a world where dignity and polish comes off as arrogance and elitism the guy didn't stand a fighting chance.
that_other_guy said:But yet ... Pres. Bush is Sen. Kerry's opposite (in that light) & we're viewed as arrogant still the same ... *goes back to pondering the government*
Captain Elephant said:OK, as long as you're dreaming. Would Bush have made a better president without Cheney and Rumsfield?
By the way, I do think Kerry would have made a better president, but he would have been crucified for his milktoast foreign policy, much worse than Bush is being crucified for his kicking ass and taking names foreign policy. The difference is that Kerry would have cared about the polls.
NineInchCock_160IQ said:I liked the fact that he seemed able to change his mind, admit mistakes, and weigh different sides of an issue before arriving at a decision. Or, flip-flop, if you'd prefer. To a political moderate such as myself, that was an attractive attribute.
Stronzo said:But I meant that the Senator has a polish and a natural charm that bespeaks background and considered intelligence. To many in mainstream society that's a threatening quality and viewed oddly to them as "arrogant". I don't see any arrogance in the Senator from Massachusetts.
Bush is arrogant in that he hasn't the ability to see things from anyone's position but his own.
For me self-assuredness and dignity does not arrogance make.
Stupidity and intransigence, however, does.
LINittanyLion said:Sorry, but fuck no. Any man who sells out his fellow soldiers in his platoon deserves no place at the head of this country.
Bush is awful, I'm not arguing that. But you judge a man based on his convictions, past and morals. Despite them being bad decisions, I honestly feel that Bush has thought he was doing what was best for this country with each decision made. I'm not so sure I can say that with Kerry. I think it would have been more of a what's best for Kerry situation, rather than a what's best for this country.
We should've elected Badnarik anyways.
LINittanyLion said:Sorry, but fuck no. Any man who sells out his fellow soldiers in his platoon deserves no place at the head of this country.
Well. Would he have?