Would you tell him it's small?

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One was through a gf she had that I ran into and sat talking to her gf in a nightclub. The other was through a friend. Also, I had another say it to me during an argument and then she sat down and cried about saying that to me and said she didn't mean it. It sucked, of course. I'm into penis enlargement nowdays and even though I haven't grown a lot it has helped me feel somewhat better about my size. I would love to be big someday.
 

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Good questions.

He vagina size -- average, I guess..still feels good my penis, still some tightness.

Her experience -- I know she's had bigger guys, in fact one real big, volume wise.

Additional info -- Im 5.5 - 6.0 long, probably 5.5 around average, not too skinny, not fat.

From all three categories above combined that you described my guess would be she thinks of you as somewhat on the high side of average:

Your length of 5.75 isn't, but your 5.5 girth is above average.

Her tightness helps the perception.

That she's had bigger guys (plural) doesn't help, so there is a chance she considers you average. At least your girth probably ensures you aren't considered smallish. At 5.75 l x 4.75 g I was considered smallish. Your girth may not sound like much more, but in the world of girths and penis size, .75 of an inch girth makes a lot of difference in thickness and overall volume (length + girth) perception.
 

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From all three categories above combined that you described my guess would be she thinks of you as somewhat on the high side of average:

Your length of 5.75 isn't, but your 5.5 girth is above average.

Her tightness helps the perception.

That she's had bigger guys (plural) doesn't help, so there is a chance she considers you average. At least your girth pretty much ensures you aren't considered smallish. At 5.75 l x 4.75 g I was considered smallish. Your girth may not sound like much more, but in the world of girths and penis size, .75 of an inch girth makes a lot of difference in thickness and overall volume (length + girth) perception.

I've heard pumping can increase girth -- have you considered that?
 

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I've been in penis enlargement for years but haven't done the exercises very consistantly. I've grown some in a length and a bit in girth. I've mainly concentrated on length because it's believed that if one wants to gain much in both length and girth one should concentrate on the length exercises first since some PEers have experienced extreme difficulty gaining any length after they gain much girth. I''ve never tried pumping, and I may not ever since it's becoming believed by more and more PEers that pumping doesn't achieve permanant results. There is a chance it could be useful as an aid to another exercise, to help with results, so I keep it in mind. There is some analysis concerning this (whether the pumping results can be permanant or not), but I haven't followed it closely since I don't have any intention of pumping anytime soon. When I become serious about getting into girth exercises I will probably use clamping. Clamping is a very risky advanced PE exercise (all are risky though if one isn't thoroughly informed), and injuries are reported from it, so I will be sure to study up on it in absolute complete detail before I begin.
 

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The problem with many men is that they are preoccupied by their size rather then how good they are.

A man who asks if he is big enough is insecure. A man who asks if he is a good lover is a smart man

Those words really ring true to me. I have had more than a couple women make positive comments about the size of my dick, but it never really does any good. Just the other day a woman told me I had great moves and was really good in bed. For some reason, I still grin when I think about her saying that.
 

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The problem with many men is that they are preoccupied by their size rather then how good they are.

A man who asks if he is big enough is insecure. A man who asks if he is a good lover is a smart man

Since when is asking anything of the sort ('size' or 'loving ability') ever a smart question. If she cares about him and it's not as great as others she is probably going to sugar coat her answer since he is asking an ego loaded question (whether it be about size or loving) and she knows it. Why can't asking if he is a good lover be an insecure question? "Am I big enough?" and "Am I a good lover?" are both questions fishing for answers. You think a guy asking if he is a good lover wouldn't be carefully listening and caring about her response any more than the guy asking if he is big enough? In either case there is doubt on his part present. If he asks "How can I improve as a lover?" then that can be different. But that's not the question you presented in your post.
 

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Ladies --

If your good man, husband or boyfriend, a guy you really care about, had a smallish or small-average penis -- would you tell him?

What would you say if he asked you?

Let's say the sex was good, he made you happy, turned you on -- maybe just not the most -- because he was only "so-so" or average -- would you admit it?

Would you tell the truth or would you lie to him and say you don't think it's small at all.

I'm guessing most would lie as to not hurt his feelings?

Am I right?

I wouldn't lie, and I wouldn't belittle him, and I most certainly would never tell him he was less than adequate. It's not the size of the sword, it's the magic in the wand. And, BTW, to be the most trusted of lovers, never gossip with the girls about 'how it was'.
 

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Superlarge, I agree with most of what you've said here. I also agree with what AlteredEgo, and Lee_M was trying to say. Communication is key in a long term relationship. I agree with you that asking, "am I big", or "was I okay", isn't a good way to do that. Talking about ways to improve your sex life with your significant other is a very good thing. You just have to go about it the right way. I just don't think AE and LM, came across the way they intended.

Superlarge, your size of 5.75x4.75" is very average. I don't see why you have a problem with it. I can believe women told you that you were small, but you are average. Women have told guys on here that are 7+ long and
well over 5 in girth that they were small. I'm sure they did it for spite too.

SLB, if I had your looks, and endowment, I wouldn't pay ANY attention to anything bad some idiotic, disgruntled girlfriend said about me. If I could trade you height, I would, if that would make you "complete", it ain't doing me any good anyway...
 

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Superlarge, I agree with most of what you've said here. I also agree with what AlteredEgo, and Lee_M was trying to say. Communication is key in a long term relationship. I agree with you that asking, "am I big", or "was I okay", isn't a good way to do that. Talking about ways to improve your sex life with your significant other is a very good thing. You just have to go about it the right way. I just don't think AE and LM, came across the way they intended.

Superlarge, your size of 5.75x4.75" is very average. I don't see why you have a problem with it. I can believe women told you that you were small, but you are average. Women have told guys on here that are 7+ long and
well over 5 in girth that they were small. I'm sure they did it for spite too.

SLB, if I had your looks, and endowment, I wouldn't pay ANY attention to anything bad some idiotic, disgruntled girlfriend said about me. If I could trade you height, I would, if that would make you "complete", it ain't doing me any good anyway...

viking,

Despite our disagreeing on some issues (you're so damn auto accepting of institutionalized viewpoints) it's obvious you're a nice guy and I appreciate your effort to make me feel better about my size. Actually I'm some bigger than that now (I realise you don't believe pe works but I am bigger from it). Also, the measurements I give are to the pubic skin and not to the pubic bone. I've gained 1.25 in length and .25 in girth, but despite the length gain I'm only visibly .50 longer than before as I've put on weight (I use to be skinny, and am now about 20 pounds over weight) so my pubic fatpad is .75 more than it was as it use to only be .50 and is now 1.25 thick and therefore hides that much length. So I use to be 5.75 l x 4.75 g (visible penis) but nowdays I'm 6.25 l x 5 g (visible penis). Bone pressed I was 6.25 l x 4.75 g and nowdays I'm 7.50 l x 5 g bone pressed. I've managed to get an "Oh!" now and then since my gain, but it was when I was pressing the fatpad in somewhat so that I had about 7" length in her.
 

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I'd prefer the truth, but there's no point in my asking; 8 x 6 doesn't need examination. I do however, ask if it's big enough solely because I'm flexible and will find a way to do something to recitify the error.

It's rarely a problem; really never has been.
 

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I'd prefer the truth, but there's no point in my asking; 8 x 6 doesn't need examination. I do however, ask if it's big enough solely because I'm flexible and will find a way to do something to recitify the error.

It's rarely a problem; really never has been.

You know, the original post question was directed to the ladies, whether she would tell the truth or lie about a man's size --

But, now I wonder whether the question could have been reversed -- and directed to the men -- Would you want to hear the truth from your lady about your size????
 

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You know, the original post question was directed to the ladies, whether she would tell the truth or lie about a man's size --

But, now I wonder whether the question could have been reversed -- and directed to the men -- Would you want to hear the truth from your lady about your size????

I did hear the truth from my girlfriend; prior to another growthspurt about six months ago ( I was an inch shorter in full-body height and only 7.5 x 5.5 erect on average; max 7.75 x 5.8 ) I asked her and she I was large enough, but then told me I was not as large as the dildo she had. For reasons beyond it I consumed myself with that, but then eventually I stopped partially because it was foolish of me and partially because I heard the other part of her sentence.

I was large ENOUGH and she ENJOYED it.

Having my hang-ups I failed to realize her complaints about the fact that 8 x 6, the size of the dildo, was too large for her; if I had paid attention I probably wouldn't have been at all pre-occupied or offended. Sadly, I grew a little so now we're back into the problem zone.

Sometimes the tool can be too big for the job; I had ignored her when she was content thus instead of worrying about the fact that I'm still growing I was worried about whether I'd outmatch a dildo she didn't even like!
 

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Since when is asking anything of the sort ('size' or 'loving ability') ever a smart question. If she cares about him and it's not as great as others she is probably going to sugar coat her answer since he is asking an ego loaded question (whether it be about size or loving) and she knows it. Why can't asking if he is a good lover be an insecure question? "Am I big enough?" and "Am I a good lover?" are both questions fishing for answers. You think a guy asking if he is a good lover wouldn't be carefully listening and caring about her response any more than the guy asking if he is big enough? In either case there is doubt on his part present. If he asks "How can I improve as a lover?" then that can be different. But that's not the question you presented in your post.

Because if you had read my earlier post i say i dont believe in lying to help a mans ego. there is always a way to be truthful and diplomatic without being insulting.

As for why is man asking about his love making skills better then asking about his size. If he asks about his love making skills it makes him appear much more concerned and understand to how i am enjoying it, no only if he feels adequate enough. Also leave the door open for feedback of what i like and what he/we could do to make it better.
 

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I've asked the question not out of insecurity. I know I am at least average. I asked because I had no clue.

Think about it. How do most guys know they're big or above average?

Porn? All the guys are chosen because they're big. Comparing myself to Mandingo I'd be average at best.

Your girlfriend? She likes/loves you she will pretend to be into the size of things (most will anyways).

Statistics? Ok so statistically I am a good percentage bigger than average, but a lot of good that does if you have to explain to someone that statistically you are above average. Not saying they are meaningless, but in the real world it's the impression I care about...

So basically I realized (after someone told me I was average) that if I were to argue that I am above average or big that I only have the stuff I mentioned above as reference. Pretty meaningless. So I decided to ask my gf who has tons of experience where I rank. I realized that ironically enough the only answer I would be able to trust from her because she loves me would be a negative one. One that she wouldn't give even if she thought it was true...

So here I am anonymously posting pictures of my penis on the internet hoping to get comments.
 

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Because if you had read my earlier post i say i dont believe in lying to help a mans ego. there is always a way to be truthful and diplomatic without being insulting.

As for why is man asking about his love making skills better then asking about his size. If he asks about his love making skills it makes him appear much more concerned and understand to how i am enjoying it, no only if he feels adequate enough. Also leave the door open for feedback of what i like and what he/we could do to make it better.

While I have asked the love making question once in the past I generally think it is the woman's responsibility to say "hey could you do it this way" if she wants it done that way. I don't think of asking because I would think she would say. Hell I would be annoyed if I found out she was silent about something like that.

Unless she really does want a bigger one than I've got there's not a whole lot I can't do if asked...
 

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viking,

Despite our disagreeing on some issues (you're so damn auto accepting of institutionalized viewpoints) it's obvious you're a nice guy and I appreciate your effort to make me feel better about my size. Actually I'm some bigger than that now (I realise you don't believe pe works but I am bigger from it). Also, the measurements I give are to the pubic skin and not to the pubic bone. I've gained 1.25 in length and .25 in girth, but despite the length gain I'm only visibly .50 longer than before as I've put on weight (I use to be skinny, and am now about 20 pounds over weight) so my pubic fatpad is .75 more than it was as it use to only be .50 and is now 1.25 thick and therefore hides that much length. So I use to be 5.75 l x 4.75 g (visible penis) but nowdays I'm 6.25 l x 5 g (visible penis). Bone pressed I was 6.25 l x 4.75 g and nowdays I'm 7.50 l x 5 g bone pressed. I've managed to get an "Oh!" now and then since my gain, but it was when I was pressing the fatpad in somewhat so that I had about 7" length in her.

I'm always going to go with scientific research. If it wasn't done scientifically it's not much good. I have learned not to believe anything I hear on the street, and only part of what I see. I've had that proven to me too many times. The internet is the same. If there is no science to back up the data, then I dismiss it as false. Self measured surveys mean nothing.
Men will lie, even when they are anonymous. This has been proven.
Just go look at any of the size threads on sites that are mostly teen age guys, and you'll see the evidence of that.

As for enlargement, it's never been proven to me. I won't say it can't work, but I don't have any proof. One thing that makes me doubt is a lot of the guys say they started enlargement at 16 to 19 years old. Natural growth can occur after that age. So, was it what they did, or natural growth?
I don't know, and I'm not sure anyone else does. Another point, why would doctors say it doesn't work if it really does? They could promote this and make millions. I know, some doctors do support it, but most are selling products for enlargement too. I'm just very suspicious of this. I won't say it doesn't work, but I'm certainly not convinced. I'm not convinced on ghosts, flying saucers, or Astrology either. Many others are, but what's that prove?
Just like that thread here "do you believe in God", it ended up about 50/50 which is inconclusive.

I don't know if you are saying you don't believe the currently accepted size from medical studies, or just that I always go with scientific evidence.
I have heard the average at 4, 5, 5.5, 6, 6.5, and 7" so far in my life.
Most of this was off the street. What I have read was factual medical studies that put it at about 5.3". I have actually looked at the names given for the references used, and then looked them up. I have read the actual research papers, and that's why I believe them. You asked me for a list of references, and I said "just forget it". I am not going to look all that stuff up again. I spent hours and hours finding that stuff. I didn't tag any of it.
I didn't need to, I read it, and it's in my brain now. I will also wager, that if I do find it and post it, that it won't change YOUR opinion one bit. It also won't change the opinion of more than .5% of the membership of LPSG in general. That's just the way it is, most people are very closed minded.

It did change my viewpoint, though. If you had asked me 5 years ago what the average penis length was, I'd have said 6.5 to 7", closer to 7". That's what I had heard all the way through school. Now I know it was just adolescent guys wanting everyone else to believe that had 7". I was gullible then, now I'm not so gullible. I'm not closed minded, I just want PROOF! What's wrong with that?
 

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I've asked the question not out of insecurity. I know I am at least average. I asked because I had no clue.

Think about it. How do most guys know they're big or above average?

Porn? All the guys are chosen because they're big. Comparing myself to Mandingo I'd be average at best.

Your girlfriend? She likes/loves you she will pretend to be into the size of things (most will anyways).

Statistics? Ok so statistically I am a good percentage bigger than average, but a lot of good that does if you have to explain to someone that statistically you are above average. Not saying they are meaningless, but in the real world it's the impression I care about...

So basically I realized (after someone told me I was average) that if I were to argue that I am above average or big that I only have the stuff I mentioned above as reference. Pretty meaningless. So I decided to ask my gf who has tons of experience where I rank. I realized that ironically enough the only answer I would be able to trust from her because she loves me would be a negative one. One that she wouldn't give even if she thought it was true...

So here I am anonymously posting pictures of my penis on the internet hoping to get comments.

You would have been far better off to read some factual studies on penis size, than to ask "am I big" on the internet. No offense intended.

There is plenty of factual info out there for those who want to find, and read it. Most don't seem to believe it anyway. They'd rather believe porn, their buddies, girl friends, or internet surveys. All very poor sources of info on anything, not just cock size...

Like I said before, communication is key to maintaining a healthy long term relationship. Discussing sexual issues is important. It's not just up to the woman to complain about the guy's technique. It's his place to want to please the woman. If he cares about her at all, that is. No wonder so many women complain about guys being lousy lays...

For what it's worth, you look considerably above average in your pics.