I can understand being so upset and frustrated and to feel so betrayed by someone you trusted to let your anger get the better of you. Still when things cool off, better to remove it.
And are you saying it's not out of character for Rob to do this? I'm only asking because that's how I'm reading it, not to incite.
It's more likely they took a vote on it and decided to alter his sig.
Since you don't know who voted what you can't glean anything about anyone's character form it.
That's incredibly unlikely. If someone had brought it up to be voted on, it would be shot down in a heartbeat. I don't really have any doubt about that. This seems more like something done on a spur-of-the-moment, it's very emotionally driven.
If you don't believe me that we banned him as soon as we were able and could not do so sooner, there isn't much else I can say. .
Look, I don't want to beat a dead horse and I never meant to mod-bash. I've always been very clear about the difficulties involved in the job they do as well as the thanklessness of the task despite disagreeing with certain decisions here and there. When I began this thread I believed the fake pic was solely the one that came and quickly went so my point was more cut and dry; now it's more in shades of grey, to mix my metaphors.
Rob says HJ was taking unauthorized action against members on his own. Vince implies it was the gallery pics. Surely the latter is the cherry on the cake of the former and the timing is convenient. But in any event, it is what it is and there's no going back. In the end, it's a sad tale all around.
For the record, I created the signature without any discussion with mods/admins. I'm not sure how I feel about it really, maybe it is something we should do going forward, maybe it is not. Although HungJon could have been banned for any number of reasons, he was ultimately banned because he lied to the members and moderators - including using fake photos as himself. This was discovered because he obviously drew a lot of attention to himself in his final postings.
I really don't like to get involved in these things, but he pushed until my involvement became necessary. The moderators work very hard and didn't deserve to be thrown under the bus. I'm not sure if he was a huge troll or perhaps is genuinely mentally ill. He concocted all sorts of things that had no basis in fact, perhaps he really believed them. We'll never really know.
For the record, I created the signature without any discussion with mods/admins. I'm not sure how I feel about it really, maybe it is something we should do going forward, maybe it is not.
Anybody that has been a regular on any number of forums would know that it is not something that he himself said. Personally, I have no issue with it. Actually, I prefer that it is put in the signature of the banned person because then there might be fewer "why was person x banned?" threads. There may be a mod actions thread, but people dont always check there. They see a person is banned and instantly think, "why was he banned? I am gonna make a thread asking why!" This scenario is even more true for members that have been around for a while.I think 'not' and I would like you to remove it or at very least change it so it becomes clear it is words you have put in his mouth.
As I said earlier - the Mod Actions thread is the current place to convey such a message to the membership. It's your prerogative to change that, obviously, but putting an 'I was a naughty boy' comment in someone's sig strikes me as a low and ungainly way of doing it.
I think 'not' and I would like you to remove it or at very least change it so it becomes clear it is words you have put in his mouth.
As I said earlier - the Mod Actions thread is the current place to convey such a message to the membership. It's your prerogative to change that, obviously, but putting an 'I was a naughty boy' comment in someone's sig strikes me as a low and ungainly way of doing it.
For the record, I created the signature without any discussion with mods/admins. I'm not sure how I feel about it really, maybe it is something we should do going forward, maybe it is not. Although HungJon could have been banned for any number of reasons, he was ultimately banned because he lied to the members and moderators - including using fake photos as himself. This was discovered because he obviously drew a lot of attention to himself in his final postings.
I really don't like to get involved in these things, but he pushed until my involvement became necessary. The moderators work very hard and didn't deserve to be thrown under the bus. I'm not sure if he was a huge troll or perhaps is genuinely mentally ill. He concocted all sorts of things that had no basis in fact, perhaps he really believed them. We'll never really know.
The stolen, copy-written photos are evidence of that deception and alone are reason enough for a ban.
The sig is the equivalent of the punishment given to lots of people that wear a sign around their neck stating something. It is not something they said, it is an explanation.Yeah, a sig is someone's own expression, even in banishment.
When something's written in the first person, yet demonstrably false that those are their actual words, it's fraudulent. I think LPSG is above having public stockades, and management falsifying someone's personal statement is that, but worse.
I think 'not' and I would like you to remove it or at very least change it so it becomes clear it is words you have put in his mouth.
As I said earlier - the Mod Actions thread is the current place to convey such a message to the membership. It's your prerogative to change that, obviously, but putting an 'I was a naughty boy' comment in someone's sig strikes me as a low and ungainly way of doing it.