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And just about ALL of it, b.s. right winged spin.

The jobless rates are lower, a continued trend from Obama's PRESIDENCY, but the minimum wage is still stagnant, thanks to Trump/GOP efforts to block increases,

Stock markets perform better in times of trouble for the average American.

Businesses are still leaving the country, and many of those that remain are paying higher prices for raw goods because of Trump's trade wars.

The so called "new" trade deal is essentially the OLD deal with Trump's name on it.

N. Korea is still secretly building nukes.

Those regulations that ----- like YOU call "stupid" are being rolled back, like those for Deepwater Horizon, for example.

Gas prices are reportedly at their highest price in FOUR years which obliterates those imaginary nickles and dimes Trump supporters THINK they're pocketing.

And the killing of the Iran Deal means they'll be getting higher.

Trump's attempts to hobble the ACA has resulted in higher costs for premiums

Consumer protections and net neutrality have been undermined.

And if you're in the market for a loan to buy a house right about now, prepare to be fucked thanks to Trump and the GOP.

Meanwhile, the GOP has written into their political platforms condemnations of same sex marriages, and their conservative led SCOTUS rules against civil rights protections for 100% gay people like YOU.

And while the representatives of other nations laughed in YOUR president's face, HE has to give American farmers a 20 million dollar BAILOUT because of HIS trade wars.

And the list goes on.

NINE of the last TEN recessions occurred under a Republican administration.

So keep on believing the GOP bullshit.


According to your logic, President Trump is enjoying the benefits of what President Obama did while in office. Conversely, then all the recessions that occurred while a GOP President was in office. Can be attributed to the acts of the prior Democratic President.

It's a two edge sword. It cuts both ways.
 
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According to your logic, President Trump is enjoying the benefits of what President Obama did while in office. Conversely, then all the recessions that occurred while a GOP President was in office. Can be attributed to the acts of the prior Democratic President.

It's a two edge sword. It cuts both ways.

What Trump enjoys at the *beginning* of his presidency clearly rides the coattails of the Obama economy. The Great Recession at the *end* of Bush's second term is much harder to pin on Clinton.
 

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What Trump enjoys at the *beginning* of his presidency clearly rides the coattails of the Obama economy. The Great Recession at the *end* of Bush's second term is much harder to pin on Clinton.


Meanwhile, Obama blamed the Bush administration for eight years. And is now trying to take credit for Trumps successes.
 
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And he is correct on both accounts. Facts cannot penetrate you, so I'll save the keystrokes.


You cannot have it both ways. He could've blamed him for the first four years, but after his reelection those four years were on him.
 

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You cannot have it both ways. He could've blamed him for the first four years, but after his reelection those four years were on him.

The economy continued to improve and rebuild during Obama' entire term. The damage being repaired was profound and did not happen overnight. Bush got the blame he deserved - there is no fixed time frame in assessing damage. Clinton was not off the hook either for decisions he made that exacerbated things long after he left office. The actions always count, the consequences linger.
 
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The economy continued to improve and rebuild during Obama' entire term. The damage being repaired was profound and did not happen overnight. Bush got the blame he deserved - there is no fixed time frame in assessing damage. Clinton was not off the hook either for decisions he made that exacerbated things long after he left office. The actions always count, the consequences linger.


Yeah but if Obama hadn't regulated small businesses and everything else to death the economy might have grown a little faster.

Trump lifted the regulations the stock market is booming, the economy is booming, the unemployment rate is lower than it has been in 49 years.

And we can grow at more than 1 percent.
 
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Yeah but if Obama hadn't regulated small businesses and everything else to death the economy might have grown a little faster.

Trump lifted the regulations the stock market is booming, the economy is booming, the unemployment rate is lower than it has been in 49 years.

Impenetrable.
 
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Impenetrable.

Hey Keen:

Kudos to you and the others who continue your efforts to engage this guy with facts. Cuz it appears he's not much for that. Notice the constant whataboutisms, deflection, straw man arguments, etc. You get the drift.

This is the guy who claimed that one chooses his/her sexual orientation. You know Keen, you could wake up tomorrow and just decide/choose to be 100% straight. Yup...

That he was molested and forced into gay sex.

And then lived the "lifestyle" for a few years.

Then chose to be straight.

That minorities (especially blacks from single mother households) would do so much better if they went to school and got a public education.

That then in the next sentence, says he sent his children to private schools because public schools suck.

That he did not know who Alex Jones was.

I could go on an on. This guy is a tool. He's not here except to stir shit. Period.

This is why I no longer engage with him. Cuz I'm really not sure what his motive is, but I ain't buying anything he's selling. Don't know if he's being stupid or dumb, or perhaps trying just to be clever. Whatever, just don't care. Whatever he's doing, it's a big fail with me. He's a phony. And a hypocrite.

But, hey, I do appreciate his entertainment factor. His postings make me laugh. And I usually end up feeling sad for him. He's miserable. And it shows.

As my good Southern belle friend often will say: "Bless His Heart. He just can't help himself from stupid."
 

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Yeah but if Obama hadn't regulated small businesses and everything else to death the economy might have grown a little faster.

Trump lifted the regulations the stock market is booming, the economy is booming, the unemployment rate is lower than it has been in 49 years.

And we can grow at more than 1 percent.
Please tell us exactly which regulations that President Obama placed on small businesses that Mr Trump has lifted.
 
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Hey Keen:

Kudos to you and the others who continue your efforts to engage this guy with facts. Cuz it appears he's not much for that. Notice the constant whataboutisms, deflection, straw man arguments, etc. You get the drift.

This is the guy who claimed that one chooses his/her sexual orientation. You know Keen, you could wake up tomorrow and just decide/choose to be 100% straight. Yup...

That he was molested and forced into gay sex.

And then lived the "lifestyle" for a few years.

Then chose to be straight.

That minorities (especially blacks from single mother households) would do so much better if they went to school and got a public education.

That then in the next sentence, says he sent his children to private schools because public schools suck.

That he did not know who Alex Jones was.

I could go on an on. This guy is a tool. He's not here except to stir shit. Period.

This is why I no longer engage with him. Cuz I'm really not sure what his motive is, but I ain't buying anything he's selling. Don't know if he's being stupid or dumb, or perhaps trying just to be clever. Whatever, just don't care. Whatever he's doing, it's a big fail with me. He's a phony. And a hypocrite.

But, hey, I do appreciate his entertainment factor. His postings make me laugh. And I usually end up feeling sad for him. He's miserable. And it shows.

As my good Southern belle friend often will say: "Bless His Heart. He just can't help himself from stupid."

You are exactly like one of my " gay" friends. Bitter, vindictive, simple minded, and closed to views other than your own and like minded individuals.

Facets? The talking points from CNN are not facts. They are no better than some liberal site you guys go to to dig up this shit.

According to you guys Obama inherited Bush's failures, for eight focking long years. And now that every thing is growing by leaps and bounds here you guys come giving credit to Obama.. He isn't the Messiah you know.

You just can't seem to wrap your heads around the fact that Trump is doing a decent job. That his policies are helping the American out. Anyone who has a 401k is making some extra dividends. More so than all the long eight years of Obama.

The fact that I can be honest about my past experiences, what kind of education I wanted for my children, or who I prefer to have sex with, and my belief that everyone makes the same choices in who they have sex with. Says that I'm honest enough acknowledge the ups and downs that I've experienced in life.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that you guys simply want an echo chamber to make your pathetic miserable maladjusted lives seem better.

As for whether you consider anything I say as entertaining that is your prerogative. I don't care.

I can only speak about what I know anything else is Trifles.
 
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You just can't seem to wrap your heads around the fact that Trump is doing a decent job. That his policies are helping the American out.

Oh, I know he is. It's fiscal stimulus. That's what happens to the economy when the government takes out extra debt and spends it in the economy.

It's just ironic that fiscal stimulus is the antichrist when proposed by Democratic presidents, but it's all roses when Trump does it.

It's also a bit of a time bomb though. The tax cuts which benefit the vast majority of the public are set to expire. Only the bailout for his rich buddies are permanent.
 

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You are exactly like one of my " gay" friends. Bitter, vindictive, simple minded, and closed to views other than your own and like minded individuals.

Facets? The talking points from CNN are not facts. They are no better than some liberal site you guys go to to dig up this shit.

According to you guys Obama inherited Bush's failures, for eight focking long years. And now that every thing is growing by leaps and bounds here you guys come giving credit to Obama.. He isn't the Messiah you know.

You just can't seem to wrap your heads around the fact that Trump is doing a decent job. That his policies are helping the American out. Anyone who has a 401k is making some extra dividends. More so than all the long eight years of Obama.

The fact that I can be honest about my past experiences, what kind of education I wanted for my children, or who I prefer to have sex with, and my belief that everyone makes the same choices in who they have sex with. Says that I'm honest enough acknowledge the ups and downs that I've experienced in life.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that you guys simply want an echo chamber to make your pathetic miserable maladjusted lives seem better.

As for whether you consider anything I say as entertaining that is your prerogative. I don't care.

I can only speak about what I know anything else is Trifles.

Thank for taking time to reinforce everything I typed to @keenobserver. Appreciate the reinforcement.

And c'mon now dude, you really expect me to believe you have any friends, let alone "gay" friends. You funny.

It's obvious you get your "facets" from Fox. You are just a physical manifestation of the bullshit they spew out and claim to be factual. Like you, that's laughable.

Me? I get my facts from a variety of sources. Mainly print. Funny how reading the same information in several publications can lead one to realize--I'm reading facts. But hey, to folks like you--who needs facts? Right? You certainly have demonstrated a repeated aversion to the truth. Just like your messiah. You can't handle the truth!

You're right. I am bitter. About ignorant people like you. Perhaps if your parents had sent YOU to private school...

Vindictive: Nah, that takes too much energy. I really don't give two shits about people like you. Remember, I was speaking to Keen with my post YOU quoted. I gave up trying to have any kind of sensical convo with you some time ago. I'm only responding now because you came at me. Hmm? Did I strike a nerve? No need to respond; it's a rhetorical question.

Simple-minded? If you mean naive, yup, that's me. To a fault. But I'm working on that. I still like to give folks the benefit of the doubt, until proven otherwise. That's why I give you no benefit.

If you are attempting to sling barbs at my "smarts", you missed. Cuz smart people are those who retire with a 6-figure pension when they are 56. What else you got in that repertoire of yours?

And let's be real here, contrary to your protestations, you really do care about me. Why else would you have quoted my post to Keen that did not mention you by name? You like me. You really like me. *Blushes* Sorry, but I'm taken. But hey, it's the thought that counts.

Seriously dude. You keep keepin' on. I'll keep laughing when I read your posts. And feeling sad for you. Cuz I know that deep down you really do know what's going on. I understand it can be difficult to admit when you are wrong. You and a lot of other Americans got taken. It really is that simple. You got scammed. You got took. You were sold a bill of goods that has turned out to be not what was represented. You must love Kool-Aid.
 

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You are exactly like one of my " gay" friends. Bitter, vindictive, simple minded, and closed to views other than your own and like minded individuals.

Facets? The talking points from CNN are not facts. They are no better than some liberal site you guys go to to dig up this shit.

According to you guys Obama inherited Bush's failures, for eight focking long years. And now that every thing is growing by leaps and bounds here you guys come giving credit to Obama.. He isn't the Messiah you know.

You just can't seem to wrap your heads around the fact that Trump is doing a decent job. That his policies are helping the American out. Anyone who has a 401k is making some extra dividends. More so than all the long eight years of Obama.

The fact that I can be honest about my past experiences, what kind of education I wanted for my children, or who I prefer to have sex with, and my belief that everyone makes the same choices in who they have sex with. Says that I'm honest enough acknowledge the ups and downs that I've experienced in life.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that you guys simply want an echo chamber to make your pathetic miserable maladjusted lives seem better.

As for whether you consider anything I say as entertaining that is your prerogative. I don't care.

I can only speak about what I know anything else is Trifles.
You still haven't answered what regulations President Obama imposed on small business that stifled them until Mr Trump came in and reversed them. I'll wait.
 

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It would be great if you didn't misquote me. I clearly didn't type those words.

It was just an accident. I was going to write something to both you and @Gj816 (two different quotes in the same reply box) and screwed up the BB codes when I was deleting your portion back out (so it has his text, but referenced you as author).