Year later, james deen’s career is still going strong

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I think this is a neutral subject that is intriguing. Deen after all, gaining notoriety for his he dong. This prompts a debate about sex and sexism in porn.

Despite Abuse Allegations, James Deen’s Career Still Thriving
http://www.vocativ.com/300652/james-deen-career/

One Year Later, James Deen’s Career Is Still Going Strong


http://www.vocativ.com/377525/james-deens-career-sexual-assault-violence/

One Year Later, James Deen’s Career Is Still Going Strong
Despite several allegations of sexual assault and violence, the porn star has seen few professional setbacks
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By Tracy Clark-Flory with Tal Reznik
Nov 22, 2016 at 2:58 PM ET
It’s been nearly a year since James Deen, the world’s most popular male porn star, was first accused of assault. In the days after the first allegation, several other women came forward with disturbing claims of sexual assault, violence, and boundary violations. Porn studios began to cut ties with Deen, the story caught international attention, and it seemed the thriving career of the so-called “well-hung boy next door” was inevitably headed downhill.

But, a year later, it’s clear that while Deen’s career might have taken a slight hit, it isn’t going anywhere. “Very little has changed in James’ life over the last year,” said Howard Bragman, Deen’s spokesperson. “He is not subject to any cases either criminal or civil and he is continuing the same work he did before in the entertainment industry.” A Vocativ analysis of adult film releases, as well as industry interviews, show this isn’t just the boasting of a publicist trying to make his client look good.

told Vocativ that during a BDSM porn shoot Deen hit her so hard that her jaw locked and also ignored numerous other boundaries.

More“Help Me”: Porn Performers Detail New Allegations Against James Deen
The accusations landed everywhere from The Washington Post to The Daily Mail. And the initial consequences to Deen’s career were swift. Kink.com and Evil Angel cut ties with the star. His advice column for The Frisky was nixed. He stepped down as chairman of the Adult Performer Advocacy Committee, the industry’s trade association. Nearly two months later at the AVN Awards, the so-called “Oscars for porn,” Maxim reported that “the only dirty words were ‘James Deen.'”

However, a year later, based on outreach for this story, while it seems there aren’t many industry insiders who want to talk about him, plenty are willing to work with him. A Vocativ analysis of records from The Internet Adult Film Database, which catalogs porn films, found that in the past year, an estimated 108 films were released starring Deen — and the vast majority were for outside studios, not his own production company.

This is a drop from the 12 month period before the first accusation against him, which saw approximately 142 releases starring Deen. That amounts to a 24 percent decrease — and most of that drop was in films produced by outside production companies. But he is still clearly landing plenty of gigs — and, by some accounts, the industry overall has also seen a decline in production.

It’s important to note that these numbers reflect release dates, and that adult movies are typically filmed 30 to 90 days before they are released — so, some of these movies were filmed before the allegations and released after them. That includes several titles from Evil Angel, which decided against shooting any new scenes with Deen after the allegations, but did release several movies that had been filmed beforehand.


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“I don’t know that you could say his career has thrived or failed to thrive in the wake of the allegations,” said a performer who knows both Deen and Stoya and asked to remain anonymous. “I think it landed somewhere in the middle. It’s less than it was but it’s far from dead.”

Zak Smith, a male porn performer, blames the media. He argues that news publications have shied away from pursuing allegations against the star because they are scared of being “sued out of existence.” And that, he said, is why Deen hasn’t been edged out of the industry: “The media isn’t pushing the story — so the story goes away.” As of yet, Deen has not sued any news organizations or accusers, although he did initially call the allegations “false and defamatory.”

MoreJames Deen And The Limits Of Porn’s Consent Culture
The porn business has taken something of a conservative position on the matter, according to the anonymous performer from above. Initially, she said the industry conversation around the allegations focused on protecting female performers; and then it shifted to protecting performers and producers from encountering these kinds of accusations. Many studios began filming performers ahead of a scene talking about what would be taking place during the shoot, as a way of documenting their informed consent, according to her. (It’s worth noting that many of the accusations against Deen do not involve actions alleged to have happened during filming.)

“This story scared a lot of people who saw it as a potential hazard for any male performer who had been portrayed in the sort of scenes James was portrayed in,” she said, referring to his BDSM work. “That to me is the telltale sign that the verdict leaned in James’ favor.”

LaBeau, who shared her own accusations against Deen, is surprisingly unphased by his continued success. “By speaking out when I did, I found closure,” she said. “I can listen to the directors sing his praises for how much he loves women. I can hear new starlets talk about their favorite male talent and how much they love him, and I’m genuinely happy for them.” She explained, “I know I don’t have to deal with him anymore. I am free. Others can make their own choices as consenting adults and learn their own lessons.”

Ultimately, she accepts that Deen is a fixture in the business. “This industry is my family,” she said. “Everybody has that gropey uncle they fucking hate and avoid at Christmas functions. That’s who James is to me.”
 
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rape apologist culture
there is no ends america will not go to to protect white male privilege
hell, our president-elect bragged about sexually assaulting women
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fuck James Deen
just don't watch him fuck
put a hurting on somebody''s wallet
about the only way to make ya viewpoint known these days
 
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rape apologist culture

Now this is interesting and feeds the narrative it seems like anything dealing with rape gets covered on CNN non stop.

The only reason I bring this up in addition to the thread is out of curiosity, does anyone care? I swear, at the same time I posted this thread, I saw new one " can a prostitute be raped?

I personally have no dog in the fight AND I would pose the question if it were it happen to 2 gay male pornstars.

hell, our president-elect bragged about sexually assaulting women
:mad:

Since you said this ( and good point by the way), has a lot of this had to do with if the alleged rape involves someone famous?

2) I'm looking for the interview he did I think with Gawker, where he said gay porn wasn't of the question but , he's joying himself too much with what he's doing. I propose this to the gay porn aficionados, does it matter? If he were to "crossover," would it come across as opportunistic and desperate?


A lot of his porn shows up on gay porn sites, and he does have a good proportion of a gay following dogging him about doing gay porn. Well, he teased us with a gay kiss in that movie with Lindsay Lohan, but no sex.


 

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rape apologist culture
there is no ends america will not go to to protect white male privilege
hell, our president-elect bragged about sexually assaulting women
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fuck James Deen
just don't watch him fuck
put a hurting on somebody''s wallet
about the only way to make ya viewpoint known these days

The problem is that of its rape culture women are fueling that engine. They're who he appeals to majorly. They're who are keeping him employed.

I think it's a wee more complex than that. In other industries of entertainment mega stars face allegations and still play on the screen, in sports and rule academia. Humans seem to separate the actor from the man whether male or female and simply disregard the man for the actor, the entertainment source, and the content of character doesn't reflect on the job.

Makes sense. The world's greatest physicist fondled his cousin after all. Greatest painters committed all sorts of oddities to themselves and others. Even Steve Jobs, hailed as a modern genius, was a total asshole. We just forget this in art galleries or listening to our ipods.

Same here.
 
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Zak Smith (who is quoted in the above article) has written about Deen's alleged crimes before. I'm aware of Zak more from his blog, and his role in the D&D web show I Hit It With My Axe, than from porn. From the way he's described, Deen sounds like he's far too dense for a career doing anything other than porn, so I'm not surprised he's still filming scenes.
 
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Zak Smith's article about James Deen/Stoya. The Girl Scout cookies story makes him sounds like a child as well as a monster:

https://medium.com/@zaksmith_/james-deen-cookie-monster-c05490730609#.j8cw11jdl
WoW! It was like that guy was reading my mind with the questions I had. when you think about it as these things happened, we were inundated with campus rape Bill Cosby & the likes.

It is interesting how the appearance looks like a, meh, they're porn stars, they fuck for a living, so what?
 

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Zak Smith (who is quoted in the above article) has written about Deen's alleged crimes before. I'm aware of Zak more from his blog, and his role in the D&D web show I Hit It With My Axe, than from porn. From the way he's described, Deen sounds like he's far too dense for a career doing anything other than porn, so I'm not surprised he's still filming scenes.

I love d&d but the truth is if he is not convicted his ability to keep working is not rape apology or protection it's simple, we don't punish people who are not convicted. at least that's the theory.
difficult as it is for the average man-hater to wrap her mind around....
as far as sexism in porn, pft!
look at pay rates of male stars vs female stars, if there is sexual bias in porn it's in favor of women
now when people start running their own companies that is a whole different thing and of course like movies and music production (or promoting in fight game) is where the money actually is