Yo Republicans*, * includes Flashy

[SilverTrain]

no, actually you do not do that.

you simply have started lying, simply because i am an independent who disagrees very strongly with what Obama has been and plans to do.

if he enacts much of what is stated above, he will have my support.

but he does not support gay marriage
has dragged his feet on gays in the military, and as i said months ago, he is not touching it at all while us troops are in combat.
he does not support legalization of marijuana and industrial hemp

and a host of other things.

once again, you simply choose to insult me and distort my views completely.

as i have said in the past, i will disagree with you, but i will never insult you or attempt to demean you and what you think, because of your assistance and advice last summer, despite your seeming vigorous new passion of the last few months in doing it to me.

as such, i will be exiting this conversation, since i have made my views known on the things i believe in politically, and my feelings of your now seemingly regular attempts to distort my views.

good night

Dude, if I ever disagree with you, then you take it so personally!

I make sarcastic quips to everyone on the board. Not just you, man.

Also, you're never wrong!

And your posts go on forever.

That said, I have considerable respect for you.

And I have more gripes about me than I have about you.

I tried to cool this thing over with you before, but I was treading lightly and getting nowhere, so I gave up.

If you can't handle a little needling from me, then so be it.

I won't do it anymore.

 

[Ericsson1228d]

Yeah, it's not like you're pro death penalty or anyth.... oh wait.

Well, people generally have to do something heinous to be subject to the death penalty.
I am astounded, yet again, on how some people cannot see the difference between rapists, murderers, and innocent unborn children.

 

[Alaboner]

Yeah, it's not like you're pro death penalty or anyth.... oh wait.

You couldn't possibly be comparing the humane killing of convicted criminals to the murder of innocent babies?

 

[Drifterwood]

You couldn't possibly be comparing the humane killing of convicted criminals to the murder of innocent babies?

Actually you deliberately choose inhumane methods for the Death Penalty.

You have the option to use Nitrogen Gas, but this is specifically rejected because there is no suffering.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

For the first 8 months in office, Bush didn't do anything. I mean nothing. People are having fun saying Obama's done nothing, but he's flown around the world, meeting with foreign government officials of all ilk, he's pushing the gigantic health care bill, he's got the gi bill done, he's been around. Bush was in his office playing solitaire (and not on the computer) or in Crawford clearing brush for 8 months. A real, true nada if there ever was one. And no one was really griping.

See, that's how it works. Don't start griping from DAY ONE, even as you're obstructing him at every turn from DAY ONE. That's called disingenuous bullshit politics. Or, if you prefer, un-American, unpatriotic, traitorious....(I forgot all the terms, anyone have Michael Medved's number?) Cynical in extemis. Rovian. Satanic.

What's funny is that many of the dissenters of the current administration have been doing just that... hating since DAY ONE. Every time you turn around, another one would appear with the silly, "Where's the change he promised" rhetoric, acting as if someone was supposed to wave a magic wand and reverse things overnight. Then they wanted "permission" to have that hate, demanding others who support the administration to set a point in time during his term in office where it would be "valid" to judge his performance. But let's get real here... some of you hated him from the very beginning, so if this is the case then why try to justify it to the rest of us who are willing to wait it out and see what happens? Since when has patience become another evil liberal agenda?

Nobody is saying that you HAVE to like Obama. We know there's plenty of you who don't like him for whatever reason. Because he's from Chicago and you think every politician there is crooked (although every politician in Congress is slanted). Because he's a "liberal" and we all know that liberals with their need to give Health Care to all are evil (while you'd rather give more money to private enterprises that don't even benefit yourself and call that "hard work"). I could go on, but there is a 10,000 ASCII character limit per post. Even I, someone who did vote for Obama during the election, has some grievances over how he's conducted some things while in office. However, some of you have been foaming at the mouth like rabid mad dogs looking for a leg to bite, and it's shadowed under the overly-exaggerated guise of political catchphrase rhetoric about "not trusting government" or "transparency".

Trust me, we're not the ones with the problem here.

 

[D_Ireonsyd_Colonrinse]

SilverTrain writes: (to Flashy)


Dude, if I ever disagree with you, then you take it so personally! -

Also, you're never wrong!

And your posts go on forever.

________________________


Yes, Flashy is overly-defensive/sensitive, so if you string so much as 2 sentences together criticizing a point in his post, he'll hit you with a long, psychologically rambling, sometimes vitriolic 12-inch comment - which, of course, is precisely proof of his defensiveness.

 

[jason_els]

Well, people generally have to do something heinous to be subject to the death penalty.
I am astounded, yet again, on how some people cannot see the difference between rapists, murderers, and innocent unborn children.

You couldn't possibly be comparing the humane killing of convicted criminals to the murder of innocent babies?

For a party that claims government can barely do anything competently, claiming that any government should have power over life and death over its own citizens is absurd. If you claim to respect life as sacred then it's not up to you or me or anyone else to take it from another person under any circumstance.

And they're right! It leads to fuck-ups like innocent people being murdered by their own government. That's the enormous tragedy. Innocent people are executed and I don't see the judges and juries who convicted these innocent people getting charged with manslaughter or anything else. Premeditated ending of life is murder and whether someone does it individually or it is done by the state, it's still murder.

There is no humane execution no matter how painless such a process might be proven to be. The ending of human life by another's hands is never humane.

 

[Flashy]

SilverTrain writes: (to Flashy)


Dude, if I ever disagree with you, then you take it so personally! -

Also, you're never wrong!

And your posts go on forever.

________________________


Yes, Flashy is overly-defensive/sensitive, so if you string so much as 2 sentences together criticizing a point in his post, he'll hit you with a long, psychologically rambling, sometimes vitriolic 12-inch comment - which, of course, is precisely proof of his defensiveness.

on the contrary...people like you and others are welcome to take all the shots you like. I give as good as i get. Since you have no clue what history i am referring to with Silvertrain, you should shut your ignorant mouth.

i notice, how, in response to you, when i post those "psychologically rambling" comments, you immediately shrivel up and skulk away, since they contain facts that dispute your idiocy, like in the most recent "1% of wealth" thread you started

you being proven regularly wrong, by a comprehensive post that refutes and destroys your absurdly whimsical and desperately naive views of certain things, does not provide proof of my defensiveness. rather it reinforces how easy it is to defeat a blinkered, fact challenged simpleton such as yourself, who is in love with demagogues and blinkered ideology.

 

[SilverTrain]

Flashy,

I publicly acknowledge I've been rude to you on occasion, and for that I apologize. I would like to be friends again.

 

[D_Ireonsyd_Colonrinse]

Flashy writes: (to me)

I notice, how, in response to you, when i post those "psychologically rambling" comments, you immediately shrivel up and skulk away, since they contain facts that dispute your idiocy, like in the most recent "1% of wealth" thread you started.

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Flashy, you are so terribly immodest. You must not give yourself credit for making posters "skulk away, since they {your posts} contain facts that dispute... idiocy".


The fact of the matter is, as many have noted, "You're never wrong!" Like yourself, Trinity, too, is never wrong. Like yourself, Trinity claims to make posters skulk away with her brandishing of "facts" (her "facts" and "factual" links are supposed to act as a sort of garlic to ward off "lying" posters).


Sometimes, many of us stop debating with you simply because you are like a dog with a bone -- and you tend to post yards and yards of commentary, like an overzealous theoretician -- and even when the facts are not on your side you are still never wrong. And can, like Trinity in her birther threads, continuously present a fresh supply of facts to support whatever thesis you happen to be defending at the moment.

 

[Northland]

***Next***

 

[mikeyh9in]

Yes, but apparently the pursuit of political gain by feeding the country a basketful of empty campaign promises and lies is just dandy!

There is one good thing about the country's current political situation: Rush and Hannity are infinitely more entertaining. You should tune in. They are on the radio stations that are still able to pay their bills.

:dance:

God, I haven't listened to a radio in years... do they still make them?

 

[mikeyh9in]

Yes, and when an innocent man (or woman) gets executed??

Well, people generally have to do something heinous to be subject to the death penalty.
I am astounded, yet again, on how some people cannot see the difference between rapists, murderers, and innocent unborn children.

 

[Ericsson1228d]

Yes, and when an innocent man (or woman) gets executed??

It is a tragedy and a corruption of the process. It should never (in a perfect world) happen.

However, EVERY aborted baby is innocent. No exception.

 

[SpeedoGuy]

It is a tragedy and a corruption of the process. It should never (in a perfect world) happen.

However, EVERY aborted baby is innocent. No exception.

But its not a perfect world. So you're against capital punishment then?

 

[B_VinylBoy]

However, EVERY aborted baby is innocent. No exception.

So are most female rape victims...
Alas, if they became pregnant due to that heinous crime would they be chastised for getting an abortion? Would you then force them to bear the child who could then become the unfairly judged symbol of such a violent act? Or would you make an exception to the rule and say that it's OK in this instance for the woman to get one, therefore going completely against the very statement you just made above?

Just another one of those thought provoking questions from the grey areas of the world.

 

[Ericsson1228d]

So are most female rape victims...
Alas, if they became pregnant due to that heinous crime would they be chastised for getting an abortion? Would you then force them to bear the child who could then become the unfairly judged symbol of such a violent act? Or would you make an exception to the rule and say that it's OK in this instance for the woman to get one, therefore going completely against the very statement you just made above?

Just another one of those thought provoking questions from the grey areas of the world.

I guess the "two wrongs don't make a right" rule might apply. I don't think anyone would dare suggest we kill female rape victims (though some countries do), yet somehow it is okay to eliminate the baby. Capitol punishment was instituted to deal with violent offenders and protect society (however ineffective it turned out to be). I haven't explored the psychology of it, but how do rape victims who have the baby (put up for adoption) vs. rape victims who abort fare in their later years, psychologically? I have no idea, and it is a terrible situation with no easy answer.

I would gladly make BOTH capitol punishment and abortion illegal.

I am not a proponent of capitol punishment, studies have shown time and time again that it is not an effective crime deterrent, and thus has become punitive. However, abortion ALWAYS destroys an innocent life.

 

[B_VinylBoy]

So, even in extreme circumstances you'd reject a woman's right to choose just so you can hold onto your belief and self-imposed imagery of a child's innocence?

It's times like these that I'm glad men don't give birth to babies.

 

[Ethyl]

I guess the "two wrongs don't make a right" rule might apply. I don't think anyone would dare suggest we kill female rape victims (though some countries do), yet somehow it is okay to eliminate the baby.

It's not up to you to decide nor should it be.

 

[Flashy]

Flashy,

I publicly acknowledge I've been rude to you on occasion, and for that I apologize. I would like to be friends again.

me too.