You americans, why are you cut ?

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  1. B_Chris63

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    I have been told that it started with some jewish doctors so that jews and christians would not be recognisable.
    Is is true ? or is it for medical reasons ?
    what a pity ! I liove foreskins !
    quelle pité, j'adore les prépuces !
     
  2. ManiacalMadMan

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    You might want to contact a moderator or administrator to move this to The Healthy Penis topic instead of Help Desk to get more responders

    Here is a list of finding them http://www.lpsg.org/showgroups.php

    After then do a Search on this site about circumcision and foreskins and watch pages of results appear. Lastly Not all Americans are circumcised many are not and there are less being circumcised each year
     
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    Good thing too IMAO!:biggrin1:
     
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    Here we go yet again on the merry-go-round.

    :welcome: :sleeping:
     
  5. ManiacalMadMan

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    Well it is a new week and what better thing than to start another for or against circumcision topic?:rolleyes:
     
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    Doesn't he post everything to the help desk? Thought I recalled seeing another post where someone asked him to stop.
     
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    I have only one comment. Your question makes no sense at all!
    Although most observing Jews are cut due to religious reasons (as well as some other faiths that practice it), not all Christians are cut.
    So what do you mean by your statement? Would not be recognisable from what??? :confused:
    Not all doctors are Jewish either, so it sounds like a racist remark to me!
     
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    I thought I was an uncut American, but perhaps I was mistaken.

    Now I just have to figure out whether I imagined my foreskin, or whether I'm in a different country.:confused:
     
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    ARRRGH, those Jews! :mad:

    Seriously, what?
     
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    *The thread title could have been phrased better.*
    Not in my opinion. I know that some people believe that and I figure they will always believe that no matter what countervailing argument is presented.

    In USA, generally accepted key reason it was started was to attenuate masturbation. The Victorians believed masturbation to be "evil" and amputating the foreskin would reduce enjoyment of masturbation. They were right about the latter. We should give them due credit for that.

    When it became apparent that circumcision wasn't reducing masturbation by any large degree, they contrived medical justifications such as preventing "consumption," preventing prostate cancer, and other contrivances which have since been disproved.

    And strangely the practice remains.
    No, there's no officially recognized medical reason for routine infant circumcision.
     
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    Sigh. When I was born, MDs informed my parents that being circumcised was good for me as it keeps the penis cleaner and prevents infections. This opinion has been hotly debated and is not my own, so save your flames and give the forums a search. Out of the best interests of my health and from the suggestions of professionals, they had it done. In hindsight I wish the had not however there is nothing I can do about it and I think hardly ever about it. It certainly does not affect my sex life at all.

    Now, has anyone else had enough of this topic? It's foreskin...there are much bigger issues to be discussed. Admins/Moderators: please consider making a separate forum for foreskin discussion or a single thread which to merge all future reincarnations of the topic into. That way people who want to discuss it further know where to go and it doesn't litter the boards. Then I'll agree to name my firstborn after one of you lovely people! Cheers!
     
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    rawrs, if you don't like circumcision or foreskin topics then don't read them.
     
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    No move this to the Rubber Room. A lesson for us all. Never drink Drano on a empty stomach............:biggrin1:
     
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    It's all about money. If they can do it they'll send a bill to either you or your insurance company. However, a lot of insurance companies won't cover it anymore since it's considered elective cosmetic surgery, and that may attribute to it's declining occurrence.
     
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    I wish that what you said was true. As far as I know, circ is a scam that all insurers in the U.S. currently cover. There is an ongoing effort on a state by state basis to take circ off the Medicaid dole as there are many legitimate services the money could be used for. At last count I think there are sixteen states in which taxpayers no longer pay for circs. We are all still paying for it with our insurance dollars.
     
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    In truth, it's up to the insurance policy holder what will or will not be covered. Employers can choose to purchase coverage for circumcision in their group policy or not. I've seen policies cover everything from circumcision to face lifts and spa visits. It all depends on what the employer wants to cover. Naturally the more that is covered the higher the premium. It's all relative to the insurer.
     
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    Every group plan I've ever seen includes it. If there is a plan that does NOT include circ I would be interested in knowing more about that.
     
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    i got cut because that's what my parents wanted for me, and it's why i'll have my sons circumcised as well. :cool:
     
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    Okay. That's dumb, but for the record, men can get by without a foreskin - after a fashion, as people get by without many other small body parts.
     
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    Quite a few don't. The most notable I know of are the Archdioceses of the Catholic church. I used to work heavily in the health insurance field and the policies of my company (and others) were like cafeteria menus. Procedures that were deemed elective always had opt-outs. We'd write standard policies that covered major medical then sit down with the benefits directors and go through costing with various options. Basically they would hand us a budget and ask us what we could or could not cover for that budget. Costing wasn't easy because the costs were essentially dependent on the reinsurer's costs, but we found that even shaving a few dollars here and there made a difference and HRs liked knowing they could pare down benefits to meet their budgets while remaining competitive. Nobody takes a job based on whether circumcision is covered in their health plan so it was a benefit nobody missed. Any coverage that wasn't mandated by law was on the chopping block. Clients could pick and choose anything they wanted. Yes it was rare we had clients to whom cost was no object (usually consulting, legal, NGO, and not-for-profits) but when we did, we'd happily write a policy to cover anything they wanted. All we did was hand them the bill.

    These days insurers have to be competitive by tailoring policies down to even minor cost-saving procedures. The more options you can offer, the better the policy fits and the more competitive in price you can be. There are no sacred cows to any insurer. What coverage you buy is what you get, nothing more and nothing less.
     
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