"You is, or You Ain't or You Do Both"

Discussion in 'Relationships, Discrimination, and Jealousy' started by Whopper-lee, Jan 20, 2007.

  1. Whopper-lee

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    I don't want to sound cynical; and forgive me, if I do.
    I often glance and read the info. profile box of the LPSG members.
    I figure that's the purpose for it, and like the idea...but my question deals
    with the percentage thing of straight and gay.
    I understand the terms used straight and gay.
    I can clearly understand 50% straight 50% gay= bi-sexual okay.
    But when it becomes these different degrees of percentages:confused:
    (I've never been that good in math computations and numbers) Okay,

    I am a MALE: I let a guy suck my penis and enjoy it, more than once mine you. But, other than this, there's nothing else I want from him sexually, with rest of my interest totally in female(s) sexual relationships...
    Does this mean or compute: 99% Straight and 1% gay for me?
    I'm kinda of slow, country, and old school: "YOU IS or YOU AIN'T or YOU DO BOTH".
    I'm really, serious and hope someone will give a heads up (no puns intended)...perhaps I should say "wise me up". But I do love blow-jobs and
    makes me no difference from male or female:rolleyes: and I ain't shame of it!:wink:

    Whopper-lee
    LPSG Member - Your comments and opinions are all welcomed...I'm not a sensitive cream-puff.:cool: How else will I know if I don't ask! Thx.
     
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    For me as a female, the 10% stands for my willingness to at least try... more or less in a threesome situation.
     
  3. snoozan

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    I think it's as close as you can get to a representation of sexuality. Sexuality exists on a continuum, not in black and white terms. I chose 80/20 because I'm attracted to women and have been with women in the past, but I mostly am interested in men.

    This may change, too. At one point in my life I was more 50/50. At another point I may swing the other way and be 20/80. Sexuality is fluid, not absolute.
     
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    There are as many answers for why the percentages as there are board members. If my sexuality was like you described, I'd call it 90% straight 10% gay. But hey - that's just me.
     
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    I agree with Matthew. The varying percentages for heterosexuality and homosexuality are very subjective. Each person decides for him/herself what percentages best fits his/her sexuality. I think these can evolve over time by the way.
     
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    most men like blowjobs from other men. Mainly a man(gay) can give do a better job than a woman. I know many straights who enjoy a good blowjob from their buddies more than girlfriend or wife.
     
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    Ok, think I got it.
    I'm also trying to figure something out about one of my sons, that I think is bi; but I want to have the right approach if confronted with the true situation. Thx.
    Whopper-lee:smile:
     
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    I know you're right!:biggrin1: :tongue:
     
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    Okay...makes sense...think I'm understanding better thus far with the replies. Thx.
    :smile:
     
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    I hope this don't make it worse but, as I look at all the colors in the world and see many. We don't have only Black.....Gray......White

    what about Blue, Red, green, pink etc.
    I say I like 80% men 20% ladies and I have never even done anthing with a girl. Will I? proly not, Could I? yeah sure.
     
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    ...rather, most men lilke blowjobs period. Eyes blindfolded, it's still going to feel good regardless. Just how willingly and involved a guy gets with another guy would determine the percentage.

    Like Snoozan said, sexuality is best described as a continuum, and those numbers can fluctuate over time. Here's how I see it.

    Baseline Sexuality
    Whatever the genetic process that allows for it, I think you start someone on the continuum. Let's call that your "baseline" sexuality because, for whatever reason, some were a priori geared toward either men, women, or both. Research is still being carried out regarding the hormonal and prenatal conditions that might have some link with human sexuality.

    The Nurture of Sexuality
    Now, life circumstances -- good or bad relationships, imprisonment, church, missionary work, Boy Scouts, exploration, feeling a bit wild and crazy, running in with a certain crowd -- can make those percentages shift within a given range. 10%, 20%, or maybe even 30% either way. The environment around an individual creates even the most rudimentary systems of reward and punishment regarding sexuality. Simply put, some places, cities, etc., are more accepting and nurturing of nonheterosexual behavior; some aren't; and where you are impacts how you feel and how you act in some way.

    I'm going to argue here that liberating environments make it a hell of a lot easier -- no shit -- for people to explore and understand their own sexuality. I don't think it's solely to the advantage of nonheterosexuals, though. Straight people might not have an interest in nonheterosexual behavior, but in the relationships they do have with those folks, they are increasingly marked by openmindedness, acceptance, nurturance, esteem, reciprocity, and good will. If people are allowed to overlook differences, then naturally it seems like everyone gets along better. Conversely, if gays and bisexuals are stigmatized and denigrated, not only is it a hell of a lot harder if you swing that way, but don't expect more than a stray person or two to treat you kindly.

    Exploration
    It's often true that when people go off to college and live on their own for the first time, it's expected that they take some time away from the books and explore themselves. Sex is but one of many channels of exploration, and if it's the right place and time, experimentation happens. It's perfectly okay and healthy as long as it involves consenting individuals and it's all safe.

    Percentage Changes
    If it's just a one-time drunken blowjob, meh, 10% at best. If you really find someone with whom you share a close, personal, and intimate relationship and you let yourself fall in love... maybe more.

    More profound changes come with more profound behaviors; individual sexual acts aren't as solid an indicator of self-sexuality modification as they are fleeting encounters. Even trying a drug, unless it's biologically so potent that it triggers addiction [meth], isn't enough to merit such a label.

    Someone who had been up to that point 100% straight might slide down at least 30 points depending on the number and content of his encounters. (Let's say that a straight guy decides to "date" a closeted guy in his fraternity and no one but the two of them know about it).

    I believe that this new relationship doesn't undo prior sexual history, behavior, or fantasies. You still liked and fucked who you chose, right? It's something new, and rightly, it's a transient sort of change until more of these "new" relationships start happening in succession. If it's a one-time thing... then, so be it...

    Now if this guy starts dating more guys after the closeted one, maybe changes his scene, gets involved in pro-gay organizations, etc., perhaps sexuality has been more drastically changed. I'm going to argue here that people even late in life who come out might not instantly turn 100%/0% gay because there's a lot of history that came prior. When the subject starts disclosing the history of one's intimacy, maybe then we'll get a better indication of what the baseline sexuality was in the first place. Even still, if the guy managed sexual intimacy with a woman (even if he were fantasizing about another guy), there's still interaction there.

    Of course there is no easy answer to all of this. At the end of the day, whatever the science is behind it, I think you're responsible for choosing (or not choosing) to label your behavior.
     
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    What she said. :D

    Not everything that people enjoy will fit into a nice, neat little box. For instance, I'm basically straight but I like to have guy friends over to drink a few beers and watch porn on the big screen. If two guys are watching a hot girl in a straight porn but jacking off to it in front of each other, is that gay? Different people will give different answers.

    What if they start looking at each other's dicks instead of the girl? Is it gay yet? What if the movie ends but they keep wanking? What if I invite a friend over and show him a porn because I just want to know how big his dick is? There are all kinds of shades of grey, and each person has to decide for him/herself how to define their sexuality.

    I chose 80/20 for no particular reason except because that's how I feel today.
     
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    I am 100% straight. I grew up with a TON of sisters. I only speak to two of them. The others I can't stand. Then when it comes to other women. I am really picky about who I am friends with. But, I am a nice girl. But, when SEX some into Q..." I am NOT into CHICKS. Though, I love to look at BOOBS.." Hell, I get WET looking at my own..." I have no clue still.." But, I have not and never felt any feelings towards another chick. Hell, it is hard enough for me to feel that towards a guy. Thank God my hubby was SEXY.." If he was just BLAH.." I would not have ever met him..":biggrin1:
    But, that is why I am 100% STRAIGHT and 0% gay. I so feel like my boobs are too big.." But, I still get turned on at looking at them on me when I look in the mirror.." Does that mean I am stuck on myself?
     
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    I could barely make out your boobs in the pics you thread posted and I got 'wet' looking at them.:biggrin1:
     
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    I don't buy this - though I have never had a blow job from a guy - so I won't be absolute about it.

    The reason is that oral sex has always been part of a combination of sexual activity for me. I have never just had a blow job. If I am having oral sex, I want to reciprocate and do lots of other things - and my thing is women, so I really enjoy the oral with women, because I am enjoying the whole thing.

    Does that make sense?
     
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    I'm definitely 30% bisexual.
     
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    My percentages have changed during my time here as I have realized who I am. I am a gay man with 2 kids. 10% for each child for me.

    We have discussed this a few times before but I can't rememnber the thread titles.
     
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    I feel the same way about men, that you feel about women. :05:


     
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    You know, this is just more sterotypical "conventional wisdom" bullshit perpetuated by people that really don't know any better. No, not all me like blowjobs from other men. I know plenty for whom that is the case. They have never had any sort of interest in any sexual activity with a man. Period. There are gay men that have no interest in women, and gay women with no interest in men. Just as it is not true that all lesbians really want the cock, it's also not true that all straight men want a BJ from another man. Both of these are cocksure statements that men make up to feel better about their sexual prowess and perpetuate for the same reason.

    I also don't buy that gay men give better head than women. Another bullshit stereotype. I've sucked more dick in more ways with all sorts of freaky shit going on than a lot of gay men have. The argument that men know what another man wants doesn't hold water because you really don't know the mechanics of what's going on down there when you're getting sucked unless you've got a video camera inside the guy's mouth. Are you really thinking about his technique and taking notes for when it's your turn, or are you focusing on the pleasure you're receiving? Sure, there some straight women that for some reason won't give BJs and when they do are awful because they aren't into it, but for those of us that enjoy going down on a man, a lot of us can do it with as much skill and enthusiasm as a gay man. It's all about being open to trying anything and paying really close attention to what your partners like-- and each partner is different.

    Sorry boys, but I'll take you on any day of the week in a BJ contest, as would a lot of other women, and I'm sure we'd hold our own just fine.
     
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