You stupid, slutty Brits...

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I'm not sure, Marley, I never asked her.

I remember about a year ago, reading an English Language newspaper in China, a centre spread article about all the liberty that we, you and us, you the US and us the UK, had lost since 9.11. The article was factually correct.

You inherited these liberties from us and fought for others from us, we fought for all of them before perhaps denying some to others. But it is our liberties, our habeas corpus etc etc that are perhaps our greatest legacy to ourselves and others, be they Washington, Gandhi or Mandela.

That we are flushing them down the toilet because some stupid cunt is throwing bombs at us (and maybe, just maybe he has a reason to be pissed at us, or rather our governments) is beyond belief to me. I have to conclude that perhaps our system doesn't really want us to be free anymore, perhaps we should also be protesting, though no bombs please, we have a vote.

Anyway, I decided that if they forced legislation through against the wish of the people, that I would give up my UK citizenship and live elsewhere. And I will.
 

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Anyway, I decided that if they forced legislation through against the wish of the people, that I would give up my UK citizenship and live elsewhere. And I will.

If you and all of us are lucky our present discredited government will be kicked out in about 18 months, and a new government can start repairing the damage they have done.

We now have an economy in a worse state than any in the developed world, a government that is mortgaging the future of the next generation to buy popularity for the Labour party, peerages bought for making donations to the Labour party (and the government managed to stop the trials going ahead), arrest of an opposition MP for revealing blunders the Labour party would rather hide, and the prospect of a quick entry to the Euro against the wishes of the majority in order to hide the inadequacies of socialist economic incompetance.

:mad:
 

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I think the thing you are all ignoring here is that the article in question came from the Daily Mail, an incredibly right wing, biased and scare-mongering newspaper. I would take anything that you read in that rag with a huge heaving dollop of salt.

Also, it seems very unlikely that id cards will come into force in the near future. The vast majority of the public is against it, and i have seen almost no support for it in the press.
 

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Given the choice between privacy and security, people will choose security every time. Trouble is, when we trade one for the other, we loose both.