Young Men Living At Home With Parents Are More Violent

[DaveyR]

Something tells me that this kid lives at home.

OMG that's Pecker in the Mod forum when his admin buttons wont work properly.

 

[Principessa]

I live with my dad still and I'm 20, and I plan to move out before I turn 23, and I'm not violent at all. Actually, I'm very anti-violence and I believe that violence never solves anything and it's really really stupid. So, maybe I'm a rare case, lol.

So, this study may have some accuracies in it, but apparently it completely disregards people like me. Oh well, lol.

Actually this study has nothing to do with you. :biggrin1: It's aimed at people who have completed their studies in a timely fashion, procured employment, and not moved out on their own.

Alcohol consumption by young people is a real plague also here in Switzerland (and drugs too). Shops are not allowed to sell alcoholic beverages (beer included) to underage persons but the youngsters manage to get them anyway. I have no idea how this could be stopped.

When you figure this out, send us a memo. We have a huge teen alcohol and drug problem here.:frown1:

Is it possible that violent and abusive people don't have the necessary skills in life to live on their own and use the parents as a crutch?.

That could very well be.

I moved home between living in Hawaii and relocating to NY (for two months) and did not become violent or abusive, I just could not wait to get out on my own again.

Completely different. You were a man with a plan and a goal.

I don't think they were targeting children still living at home going to school. I'm fairly certain the study involved those who should have taken responsibility for their life and moved on and out.

You are correct. I believe they were targeting the 28+ crowd.

 

[D_Humper E Bogart]

What is this? Yet another "NJ tries to pwn ORCA" thread?
I got my BSc from Queen Mary university, it's a very nice place to study, but I'm interested in the hard data. The university is situated in a Muslim area, and working class Muslim men (that will spend significant times with their extended families) have a violent streak that is amusing to watch at times.

 

[DiscoBoy]

Quadrophenia

My favourite The Who album.

 

[Principessa]

What is this? Yet another "NJ tries to pwn ORCA" thread?
I got my BSc from Queen Mary university, it's a very nice place to study, but I'm interested in the hard data. The university is situated in a Muslim area, and working class Muslim men (that will spend significant times with their extended families) have a violent streak that is amusing to watch at times.

What the 'F' are you talking about? :261: I have no known beef with you. :irked:

The original article doesn't do a religious breakdown of the men in the study. :no: I don't think stating that the working class muslim men in your area are violent is a good thing to bandy about. In addition, it is more than a little troubling that you find their violence amusing to watch.

 

[D_Humper E Bogart]

What the 'F' are you talking about? :261: I have no known beef with you. :irked:

Calm down, I live on irony and sarcasm! It's a side effect of being English. :tongue: I pay a lot of attention to what you say even if I sometimes don't quite agree. You are an icon of LPSG y'know....

Anyways, just ranting that I'm an exception to the rule. I find that living with my mother longer has taught me how to run a household that is far larger than just a crappy bedsit, and I have younger siblings to be responsible for. If only my cooking didn't suck...

The original article doesn't do a religious breakdown of the men in the study. :no: I don't think stating that the working class muslim men in your area are violent is a good thing to bandy about. In addition, it is more than a little troubling that you find their violence amusing to watch.

From my observations, it's hard to "choke a bitch" while your parents are around, but a Muslim area has traditionalist women who tend to put the 'r' in recessive. Of course, the westernised ones are something else! :biggrin1:

As for violence, well I wouldn't exactly stand around watching bullies beat the stuffing out of their victims, but there's something greatly funny in the global scheme of things. I mean, this is where the Olympics is being staged FFS!

 

[breeze]

" Hell is where you are what other people say you are " { i might add in reference to these studies }
Jean Paul S.

 

[breeze]

I always wondered if this was true or just hollywood script writing. { with all the studies , experts in human behavior etc. }
From an x-files episode {phrasing}

Fox " I just found out my missing sister had been murdered by a serial killer "
Scully " Well back then { the 1970s } no one including the FBI even knew they existed "
Is this just scripting writing or is it possible they { researchers , psychologists etc } know all this stuff about us but didn't know hundreds of people were wandering the country butchering thousands of people ? I thought i read somewhere it was a show that checked their facts carefully { such as they were } ?

 

[SpeedoGuy]

Man, I know a number of young men still living at home.

Their tendencies to be violent? Can't say for sure but I don't perceive much.

Their tendencies to be slackers? This is where they excel.

 

[sleepiboi]

I live at home and I'm 20, turning 21 in a few weeks. I don't feel like I'm more violent, but I am more irritable the more I am at home. I kinda agree wit the emasculated idea because at this age, I feel like I have a lot of hopes and dreams, etc, but my parents just berate and degrade me all the time, and it's horrible! I feel like what is going on in the home is also a major part.

Keep this in mind. I am still a virgin so I'm not messing around with girls all the time or something. I don't smoke and I don't drink. so it's like...what am I doing so wrong to get berated, and being 20-21 you just don't want to put up with that and get respected

 

[whatireallywant]

Is it possible that violent and abusive people don't have the necessary skills in life to live on their own and use the parents as a crutch? I moved home between living in Hawaii and relocating to NY (for two months) and did not become violent or abusive, I just could not wait to get out on my own again.

Could be. I think this seems to be more of a correlation thing than a causation thing. And also, maybe people may live with their parents for some time after most of society thinks they "should have" moved on because of financial reasons, but then are later able to move out and get steady work (like what happened to me - although now I'm back to NOT having steady work, although I have not moved back in with my dad.)

What if they've got it backwards? Perhaps a different reason causes these men to be violent, alcoholic and unable to be responsible enough to support themselves, thus resulting in them staying at home. Not violent because they're at home, but at home because they're violent. Just a thought.

Also could be, but also could be a third factor that is responsible for both staying at home AND being violent.

Years ago, parents, children, grandparents all lived together; it was just normal. Nowadays, there is the gnawing pressure to move out of your parents' home as soon as you get out of college. And if you don't, you're some kind of oddball. Here's what I have say to that: I know hundreds of horribly crazy adults who do not live anywhere near their parents. Besides, it's not anyone's business who lives with whom, unless you're paying their bills.

True. It's not necessarily a bad thing for extended families to live together. Now, in my own example, my parents (and I) also lived with my great-grandmother (my mom's grandmother) until shortly before my great-grandmother died (when I was 12). I lived with my parents until just before turning 32. (However, I desperately wanted to get OUT! Not because of my parents, but because of where they lived. I grew up there, in rural Indiana, and absolutely did NOT fit in there at all.) But really, it's a change in society in recent years that has the opinion that living with parents, extended family, whatever, as an adult, is a bad thing. It's neither good nor bad - it really all depends on the people involved.

Its only one study and therefore doesn't prove anything. You can find studies on human behavior that eventually put everybody in a bad light. As far as i know there is no profile on who will be an abusive husband. They run across all classes and races. There was a case here where the ceo of frankin templeton mutual funds went to trail for martial physical abuse { a vp of franklin bought the san francisco giants }. If i remember i read something where most people in prison are high school dropouts. Life and human behavior are very complicated and i doubt they can be categorized which is why psychology and the social sciences in general are failures.

Ha ha - I was a psych major in college and I actually agree with this! :biggrin1: My particular gripe is with sociobiology/evolutionary psychology and its attempt to justify sexism as "natural biological behavior" (ooh that really burns my shorts, as one of my favorite bloggers would say!), but yes, human behavior is very complex and difficult to find one particular item that "causes" any behavior. It's a combination of many, many factors.