your predictions of how the recession will affect society

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So nothing dominates the news more than the economy,I must admit its getting kind of scary. It hit me when I was on facebook and saw at least 3 friends status talking about how they are looking for jobs, by all accounts I think things are going to get worse. As for the affect on society, I think we are going to see a spike in drug use and abuse with the high unemployment. I also fear that we are going to see a lot more doomsday talk from all sorts of people, every disaster that occurs their is going to be people who believe that it's the sign of end times. Now with 2012 coming around, people may see this as a sign of the end of the world.

What do you think the changes we'll see because of the economy?
 

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More crime, fewer jobs for graduates, more DUIs, more suicides, more divorces, an overall "fuck you" kind of attitude to people you don't know...the usual
 

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Troops on the streets, everyone needs an ID chip (for your own protection), price controls on everything due to hyperinflation from all the bailouts, more "terrorism",etc.
 

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PREDICTION TIME:

BRITAIN
We are not well placed to weather this recession. However I think the upheaval will come through the ballot box, with a real possibility of a decisive rejection of socialism in the 2010 elections. The wildcard is whether Britain remains within the EU - as a net contributor it could be beneficial to Britain to leave. I think Britain will miss most of the social issues.

THE CONTINENT
We've seen civil unrest in Greece - it will spread to Italy, Spain, Portugal and Ireland as these countries all have sky-high unemployment. Some or all of these countries will crash out of the Euro. Germany may also leave - the Euro may end up as the currency of France plus the Low Countries. The wildcard is that Vesuvius is 4 years overdue for an erruption, and the cost of this catastrophy in a densely populated area will be enormous.

EASTEN EUROPE
Russia is in economic difficulty. Medvedev/Putin need a popular war to keep them in power - possibly the Ukraine is next on their list. Possibly the Russian people might topple Medvedev/Putin, but it would be messy.

USA
Americans seem to have the idea that when something goes wrong someone is responsible. Obama will carry the blame for everything.
 

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In the USA, people will at long last embrace a leaner lifestyle. Virtue will see a rise. People will become better people.

I'm feeling optimistic today.
 

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just like FDR's expansion of government expanded governmental power, and diminished American democracy, and created the military industrial complex

so will Obama move move us closer to the Singaporean corporate state, with diminished freedom, including freedom of thought and expression, (and with the exuberant acquiescence and applause of the libs),

weakening our security by making the PRC, and the rest of the SCO stronger, economically, and militarily
 
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Historically in the United States, when the economy is at it's lowest race and hate based crimes flourish. :frown1: It's true, mark my words and watch sites like the Southern Poverty Law Center for updates on what is really going on in the United States of America. :cool:

Or as Chris Rock once said, "There ain't nothing a white man with a nickel hates more than a 'N-word'with a dime."
 

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I agree with NJ ... but I'm more worried about hispanics, muslims and gay people than black folks. Not that this coming prejudice won't touch African-Americans ... I think there's other rabid hatreds out there now, especially towards hispanics and muslims among poor white folks.

The tightening economy will make some rationalize hiring prejudice against gay people. "Straight people raising families should get preference for jobs," they'll rationalize, "and should get pay raises first." This is illegal, but people will start getting desperate. Meanwhile, this will create more of a sense of urgency for gay folks to get legitimate legal protection for their family relationships.

Baby boomers will be unable to retire as early as they hoped, causing them to stay in the workplace longer and longer. This will result in a lower standard of living for younger generations for a longer period of time.

However, there will be a drive to return to a sense of societal morality (doing more for others) and being kinder and more understanding for the less fortunate. This will go head to head with some of the prejudices that will flare up (mentioned above).

National health coverage in the US will occur, but on a piecemeal basis. Corporate lobbyists will help drive this, urging congress to get health care coverage off their backs, so that companies don't have to pay rising health premiums and other costs year after year. They will, instead, agree to more of a fixed payment to the government to get the responsibility for health care away from corporations to the government in a way that people will have more choice for coverage than they do now.

I will continue to get nice birthday gifts year after year.
 

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No. While effect can be used as a verb in some obscure meanings, it's extremely uncommon. General rule of thumb: affect=verb, effect=noun.

Well, thanks Well-Hung-Nerd. I appreciate the correction. I always think along the lines of "He's affected" -- as in affectations. The "will" should have been a regular cue for me to see the difference between verb and noun. I'm just getting old and forgetful. :biggrin1:
 

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However I think the upheaval will come through the ballot box, with a real possibility of a decisive rejection of socialism in the 2010 elections.

I would hardly call the last 11 and a half year of Labour government 'socialism'. They've carried on with the 'free market' and look where it's got us!!

The only difference I can see between this recession and every other one I've lived through is that it's affected the 'middle classes' more than in the 80's and 90's.. Not saying it's hit them worse than the working/lower classes.

Also the first recession with the internet :rolleyes: People think they've got it tough if they can only afford two holidays this year, or have to cancel their Sky Sports sub!!
 

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Jesus 24065, you are one angry man, always blaming liberals for something...ALWAYS. Will someone ban this tool already?
 

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Lol. smash the fat douche bag troll well-hung. Just like a liberal, correcting what is right for something that is wrong.

24065,
I am not sure if you are including me as a liberal. Could you expand on your definition of a liberal so I can see if I fit the description?

Regards,
JA
 

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I would hardly call the last 11 and a half year of Labour government 'socialism'. They've carried on with the 'free market' and look where it's got us!!

The constitution of the UK Labour Party states that is is a "socialist party". It sits in the European Parliament as part of the "Party of European Socialists". It is part of "Socialist International". It sings "The Red Flag" at every Labour Party conference.

Now of course if you want to argue they are bad Socialists you might just be right - after all they are bad at everything else they try to do :biggrin1:

The free market problems are of course worldwide. But they are worse in Britain than in comparable economies, and Labour has to take some responsibility for that. It might be argued that this shows a Socialist party is unable to run a free market properly.

In a thread of predictions I'm predicting that in the 2010 election people in Britain will kick out Labour, and do it so decisively that the Lib Dems become the main opposition. Everything Brown is doing right now seems to be going wrong (and Cameron's stance of not saying what he would do is a PR masterpiece). Lots of Labour politicians appear corrupt and nasty. The prediction is that Labour is going to get a beating at the polls so great that they will collapse. Financially the party is broke.