Can We Let Texas Secede Again Already?

[Scarletbegonia]

Ok, I know we can’t, but can we get the moderate line back?
With the departure of Joe Straus (R-San Antonio) at the 2018 election, Texas suddenly had no fence for the far right.
Women’s medical access rights, voter rights (limits aimed at reducing historically democratic/working class turnout, including Souls to Polls, a black church movement to get their congregations to voting locations on the Sundays leading to Election Day) and the general horse’s assery that Austin has reliably pumped out for my entire life, have made Texas the single most dangerous and damaging state level political system in the US.
Getting a moderate line, especially in the Republican Party, can turn the tide.
Let’s get Texas Blue/purple, for the sake of the nation.

but for hope.

 

[EllieP]

We're talking about moving now that I'm retired. My husband asked what I felt about Austin. I told him I loved Austin, but I'd never live there. I'd never live anywhere in Texas. It's always been horrible.

But very soon the Latino population, which is the majority now, will realize how much power they have. That's why they're hustling to suppress as many votes as they can.

I'll dream of a purple Texas. Maybe I'll revisit the move when it's really blue, but I may be but a memory then.

 

[MickeyLee]

Time to yeet the Red States.

My happy blue ass is bout to bounce from 'Murica's sewer drain *FL* to a generations deep blue paradise. Simply can't rub shoulders with unvaccinated hate goblins anymore.

 

[Motion-of-the-Ocean]

Wouldn't it be easier just to give it back to Mexico?

What makes you think they'd want it back .

 

[Scarletbegonia]

Ok, the valedictorian video of the 18 yo was removed. Fair enough, I’m sure some pans of the class had some not yet 18 yo. But it was news, and she is of age, so I didn’t think of the b roll. Whoops.

This woman chucked her approved speech and gave an impassioned, well reasoned speech on the heartbeat bill TX just passed.
And somehow didn’t say, “the men of Texas wish poverty on women.” Much less the string of profanities and stunted sentences that rolled from my lips at the news. Perhaps she did and wrote a cooler headed essay.
it was from CNN

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

I have family in Texas I've never met and never will because I have less than zero interest in traveling there. And, I can't lie.. that particular family member can eat shit or die starving for all I care. And I absolutely mean that. Fuck her.

There *are* several members here who I would love to invite to move across the border to NM where things just aren't as oppressive.

 

[chicagosam]

Retain the state, but remove the idiots Let them have the experience of seeking asylum where they are not wanted by like-minded xenophobes.

 

[palakaorion]

And let's not forget the laissez-faire capitalism that led to Abbot's Freeze earlier this year. Dozens frozen to death, and millions in property damage to homes and businesses from burst pipes, are just the cost of protecting the rights of electric generators and pipeline operators not to winterize.

Oh and teaching children the baldfaced facts, that the current economic and public safety systems largely benefit one racial demographic at the expense of others, is verboten (implications of word choice completely intentional).

EDIT and Constitutional Carry, can't forget that little gem, because it's just too damn difficult to get a gun (eight mass shootings in Texas so far in 2021 be damned).

 

[TinyPrincess]

What makes you think they'd want it back .

Without all the gringos of course

 

[Motion-of-the-Ocean]

Though I have family there (and yes one of them is a virulent right-winger) and thus might consider visiting the state someday, Texas is likely the dead last state I'd ever consider living in. Aside from a passion of shooting sports, my science-believing, pro-women and pro-choice happy ass would have nothing in common with the average Texan who keep putting these misogynistic, fascist politicians in their Stetson hats and fake Cowboy drawls in power again and again.

Bad enough being stuck in my own bass-ackwards state that's become more deep red with each passing election cycle and any unqualified bozo emulating Trump, fighting the culture wars or fleecing the residents to line their own pockets are guaranteed an easy win. Voters here can't seem get enough of the self-flagellation.

Maybe I'll get disagreement here, but I do have to take issue with the term of "white trash" however descriptive, that some have used in this thread. As someone who has been working class all my life and unfortunately been stereotyped for where I choose to live, I have found when some white people, mostly upper middle-class professionals, use this term it is as a form of elitism and when used by non-whites it is a straight up racist term. Not only does the acceptance of "white trash" imply it is ok to bash others based on factors such as income and education; but by only separating Caucasians into being trash or non-trash, it also by default implies that all non-whites are automatically inferior.

Not to side-track things, but this has always been a personal contention of mine. We now we return you to your regularly scheduled topic...

 

[TinyPrincess]

Wouldn't it be easier just to give it back to Mexico?

 

[kronos]

Been saying for a minute, Texas is about ten white trash meltdown viral videos away from being the next Florida. Some places aren't too bad though (Austin and Denton come to mind).

 

[Scarletbegonia]

Fun fact. Texas has the right to split into (iirc) five separate states.
Not secession.

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

I'm not sure what's worse...
The politicians in this country...
Or the people that defend any of them...
Or complain about any of them...
They will run the country as they see fit without regard to our opinions and certainly not our needs.

I will complain when I see necessary because my tax dollars pay their fucking salary. They work for *us*. Not the other way around. And even though I don't live in Texas, I'm a woman and I stand up for women's rights. Women in Texas just had theirs taken away when it comes to making a very significant life decision. So, I will speak up when and where I see fit.

I will complain vocally, and with my vote. It's my right as a citizen of this country, and I feel more than comfortable exercising it regularly.

 

[kronos]

And as bad as corrupt politicians and those who support them are, citizens who are willfully ignorant about what's going on and don't exert any useful effort towards changing a lot of that corruption are also part of the problem.

 

[WilliamG]

Every couple years, a State Rep in Texas puts up a "ceremonial bill" to secede from the Union. Maybe pull the trigger this time? I have no problem with Texans. Love the music, arts, and vibe of Austin (I'm a guitar player...). But a true Texan will tell you Austin is NOT Texas. That's why they redistricted the area years ago so that Austin covers a 250 square mile voting area to smooth out the "weirdness" that is Austin.

Now here in Cali... It's blue... But it's an expensive blue.

Fun fact: On a recon mission down in Mexico (Lake Chapala) a couple years ago to explore the idea of retiring there, we met a TON of Texans and folks from Arizona living there.

 

[kronos]

Well said.

Thanks, but please keep in mind I'm not the only one who was making the same point to you

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

It's absolutely your right to complain.
But when you say they work for us????
. If so, get one on the phone to have the sidewalk fixed in front of your house. Or have more police patrol your neighborhood instead of theirs.
No offense ma'am, keep exercising your rights as the constitution says.
My hope was for this country was crushed about 30 years ago.
Please understand and take a deep breath while thinking about tearing me apart.

Who says I was "tearing you apart"?

And why should I need to take a deep breath?? I assure you, I'm calm as fuck.

They are supposed to work for us, and I'm not ignorant to that fact. I'm also not ignorant to the fact that not enough people participate in the political process in the first place so I have to stay frustrated as I see laws like this being passed when stats say the majority of Texans are Pro-Choice.

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

Taking a deep breath would make you step back and think about your next statement.
Believe me my ability to use profanity will equal or even exceed yours but, I've found over the years that it doesn't help to get the point across.
Passion is a wonderful thing, I had it for a long time. It sucks to see it wasted on a lost cause. Sorry for using the term "tearing me apart "

I'm not competing as to who can say fuck more eloquently.

Lost cause? Maybe I just have more stamina than you.

Have a nice day. Really.

 

[palakaorion]

One of our brain donor US Reps asked someone from the US Forest Service, on camera, whether we could shift the Moon's or Earth's orbit to fight climate change.

Some people never fail to disappoint.