Black Men

[marleyisalegend]

amen, i'm tellin ya. i swear to goodness my boyfriend could be driving and someone could cut us off, park their car in front so its blocking ours, get our and start fucking their girlfriend on the hood of the car and he still wouldn't honk the horn

 

[8060]

Mister West, wakin' up. One more black man present, Sir

I read that post about the foster son a few days ago. Nothin' like that ever happened in my neighborhood. I suggested that the foster dad be more concerned about becoming the kid's friend and work on being a confidante. Get off his dick. He's got his own dick. I just watched from the side though. lol

 

[marleyisalegend]

Mister West, wakin' up. One more black man present, Sir

I read that post about the foster son a few days ago. Nothin' like that ever happened in my neighborhood. I suggested that the foster dad be more concerned about becoming the kid's friend and work on being a confidante. Get off his dick. He's got his own dick. I just watched from the side though. lol

yeah, white people a trip ain't they?? sayin shit like
"any of you ever jack your uncle off"
or
"any of you ever blow your 2 year old brother"
or
"has your dad ever walked in on you takin a shit and masturbated in front of you"

and the funniest part is people be respondin like "hell yeah all the time".
SICK FUCKS

 

[8060]

I am so with you on that shit. I've posted to a couple of threads and I just got the feeling that the sentiment that I was trying to make didn't fit in at all so, what did I say?: Fuck it. I'm watchin'. I ain't got no muthafuckin' opinion. My objective is not to offend anybody. To each his own. Whatever they wanna do it. Imma do me! lol

 

[marleyisalegend]

I am so with you on that shit. I've posted to a couple of threads and I just got the feeling that the sentiment that I was trying to make didn't fit in at all so, what did I say?: Fuck it. I'm watchin'. I ain't got no muthafuckin' opinion. My objective is not to offend anybody. To each his own. Whatever they wanna do it. Imma do me! lol

AMEN. it's entertaining when you post a thread venting about a topic pertaining to black people and then 200 white people come in quoting you line by line and telling you you're wrong. i did a thread saying it annoys me when black men get stereotyped, as an example i named the "big dick" stereotype and i swear the hounds of hell were let loose they told me i was being whiney and that's not a bad stereotype and there are worst things in life than people assuming you have a big penis. completely missed the point that i was talking about stereotypes in general. i'm thinking to myself, how do you expect to relate to me if i'm black talking about a black problem and you're white?? then i had a little fun with them and started throwin their own stereotypes back at them told em keep sippin ya damn starbucks coffee while you're driving the car your parents paid for, living your sheltered lives. i dunno seems the hatred that had americans enslaving people and committing mass genocide is starting to resurface with the internet. now hateful white people can say anything they want to anybody they want without real life repercussions (u know they pop off at the mouth face to face and that ass is gettin worn out into the concrete)

 

[8060]

I posted the same kind of question a couple of weeks ago. It was my first I think. I wanted to know how to get a muthafucka off of my dick so hard and into my head. If you get into my head, then my cock will be that much fuckin' better for you, trust. One muthafucka in particular told me I crazy for asking for asking some shit like that. Man, I just stared at the screen. I didn't even respond back with all of that ignorant shit. One of my youthful lessons was to never give people the benefit of doing what they expect you to do. I let that shit. Ignorance, drama, bullshit, it all falls into the category of putting age on your ass. Fuck that. Old age is only good when it's not rushed by bullshit on your damn nerves.

Don't get me wrong. I love my white people. What I hate is ignorant people. If you don't have anything intelligent or polite to say even, sit down & shut the fuck up. Those people are startin' some shit and that's never a good thing. lol It always ends badly:biggrin1: :biggrin1:I'm not going to say anything to piss anybody piss 'cause I hate that shit. Do for me the same favor.

 

[marleyisalegend]

I posted the same kind of question a couple of weeks ago. It was my first I think. I wanted to know how to get a muthafucka off of my dick so hard and into my head. If you get into my head, then my cock will be that much fuckin' better for you, trust. One muthafucka in particular told me I crazy for asking for asking some shit like that. Man, I just stared at the screen. I didn't even respond back with all of that ignorant shit. One of my youthful lessons was to never give people the benefit of doing what they expect you to do. I let that shit. Ignorance, drama, bullshit, it all falls into the category of putting age on your ass. Fuck that. Old age is only good when it's not rushed by bullshit on your damn nerves.

Don't get me wrong. I love my white people. What I hate is ignorant people. If you don't have anything intelligent or polite to say even, sit down & shut the fuck up. Those people are startin' some shit and that's never a good thing. lol It always ends badly:biggrin1: :biggrin1:I'm not going to say anything to piss anybody piss 'cause I hate that shit. Do for me the same favor.

yeah i have the biggest sense of humor. one time i was hangin out wit 2 white co-workers and one of them said something i can't remember that was really off-hand about africa and i was gettin ready to knock his wisdom teeth down his throat and the other guy said "quick, an angry black man, put on some rap music and it'll distract him" that was so damn silly i just had to laugh but i KNEW them and we was cool like that we always joke around like that but it's different to hear racial comments from people you can't even see who probably say it in a joking manner but really mean it. oh well like my gramma said "boil it and make some grits" lol meaning be done with it. speakin off some cheddar grits would be killer right now. brb

 

[D_one and done]

i dunno seems the hatred that had americans enslaving people and committing mass genocide is starting to resurface with the internet. now hateful white people can say anything they want to anybody they want without real life repercussions (u know they pop off at the mouth face to face and that ass is gettin worn out into the concrete)

thats the reason i hate going on youtube. its like a congregation site for all the supremacists of ALL colors, even black. you'd be surprised how many extreme black supremacists doctrines you'll hear while walking around youtube. i think of all the supremacists out there, extreme black supremacists infuriate me the most. so quick to blame the white man for everything thats wrong with the black community. yeah there are some things that are wrong with the community, but at some point personal responsibility is a factor.

and the thing that get me the most angry is that when you try and call one of them out on their bullshit they are quick to assume that you must be some white, racist farmer. they cant seem to understand why a black man would argue against them, but if you're speaking nonsense, then you're speaking nonsense. i don't care what color you are or what race you're talking about.

 

[8060]

I feel you, lust. For example, I'm a white man. I see a black man walking down the street. I stop this black man and ask him a general question about black people, really wanting to know, but I didn't take the time to think about the fact that this black man that I saw walking down the street minding his own damn business doesn't have the first inclination to answer a question "for all black people."

Naturally, I have offended this black man because I didn't konw how narrow-minded my asking an innocent question was. Had I thought about it myself by using my brain, instead of jumping to conclusions, I don't started some shit. Now, things are blown out of proportion and the initial question is a distant memory. I, as white man, have put the nation in the uproar simply from ignorance and lack of thought and poor choice of words.

Now, with all of that shit going on, when is something as unreal as world going to come into life? Racism, in my opinion, will only die when we as black people stop feeding it. If you act like something doesn't bug you, bother you, anger you, or tempt you, it will eventually die off. Take your pick of something and put it into action. We as people as a whole have to become better and it seems so far off sometimes. It's really sad.

 

[mista geechee]

black man here too. a geechee ass brother too. long dick and all

alotta black people dont join sites or forums because we dont feel like reading posts that start with "all black people...." or "black people always...". i hate that shit with a passion. im not sayin all white people are like that , but alot are, alot more than would like to admit it. in today's society, black and anything associated with it is seen as ugly, voilent,stupid,ruthless. we dont join many sites because of the white people who think "all" black people blame them for our problems. that they are somehow being victimized in "their" country. because of the white people who tihnk white skin is the default and everything else is ethnic and out of the norm. white people, you are an ethnic group too. because of white people who think blacks are inferior, second class citizens. even though blacks were the first people on this earth. evn though the first doctor was a black man in africa. even though the first real learning institution was started by ancient africans in kush and timbuktu. even though the greeks and roman who are seen as inventors/innovators learned EVERYTHING they knew from black people in africa(math,medicine,architecture..etc....etc). all we talk about is ben franklin and thomas jefferson in shcools, but not the greensboro boys or teh emmit till incident. we dont talk about chaka the zulu or king niger and queen nigeria. we dont join alotta sites because there is always that white person saying, just get over it..yadda yadda blah blah. but they fail to realize that a white man with a criminal record has a better chance of getting a job than a black man with a college degree. they dont realize that they are born with an advantage over everyone else-their skin. they havent had to see the world through black eyes. they have never left a job interview thinking "did i not get the job because of my skin"? they dont realize that to succeed in america, you have to know all about white history, but anyone else's history isnt worth two shits.

think about this for a second. white women go and get injections in their lips to get them thicker and larger and implants in their butts to make them jucier and more desirable. when they do this people applaud and its so sexy and attractive. black woman are born with those attributes, but on black woman people say its nasty and "nigger lips" this and "ghetto booty" that. so wat? its supposed to be okay if its on a white woman?

i saw a special on msnbc earlier called "a discussion about race". part of it had a series of 6 or 7 year old children, they were all white,asian,or spanish. it was called the doll test. they were sat down at a table in front of a white doll and a brown doll (to represtnt balck people). each child was asked "which doll looks okay and which has something wrong with it?" and they all had the same response. they all said the white doll looked okay and when asked why they all said "because its white". then when asked what was wrong with the BROWN doll they all, almost verbatim, said the same thing " because its black". you see? parents are still teaching white superiority and black inferiority. not just white parents. and at the same time black people are busy trying to explain and apologize for our culture instead of just being ourselves.

whe i was in high school i use dto over hear white kids saying things like"acting black" or "thats not what black people do". o really? i always wanted to ask those kids what they knew about being black. especially what its like being a black man in teh deep south? why do people think that to be "truly black" you have to have bad grammer? or be a criminal? or be loud and ignorant?

that is why alotta black people dont join sites. because people still just dont understand.

 

[D_one and done]

Now, with all of that shit going on, when is something as unreal as world going to come into life? Racism, in my opinion, will only die when we as black people stop feeding it. If you act like something doesn't bug you, bother you, anger you, or tempt you, it will eventually die off. Take your pick of something and put it into action. We as people as a whole have to become better and it seems so far off sometimes. It's really sad.

that is soo true man. when most people encounter racists on youtube they are so quick to leave long comments on the person's page cussing them out and telling them to suck a dick etc. On youtube, you do have the ability to delete unwanted comments, so why don't the racists delete comments like that? the people who leave such comments don't realize that thats exactly the kind of response that they're after. now the racists can look at comments like that to support all of their misconceptions about other races.

i remember coming across a man that was disgustingly racist. i went to his page and there they were: about 50 comments cussing him out calling him every name in the book. i left a nice long comment. i wasnt angry, i wasnt swearing, but i definitely let him know my position on the matter (in a slightly back-handed insulting way, of course :biggrin1 and told everyone not to cuss him out because thats what he wants. my comment was quickly deleted.

 

[marleyisalegend]

black man here too. a geechee ass brother too. long dick and all

alotta black people dont join sites or forums because we dont feel like reading posts that start with "all black people...." or "black people always...". i hate that shit with a passion. im not sayin all white people are like that , but alot are, alot more than would like to admit it. in today's society, black and anything associated with it is seen as ugly, voilent,stupid,ruthless. we dont join many sites because of the white people who think "all" black people blame them for our problems. that they are somehow being victimized in "their" country. because of the white people who tihnk white skin is the default and everything else is ethnic and out of the norm. white people, you are an ethnic group too. because of white people who think blacks are inferior, second class citizens. even though blacks were the first people on this earth. evn though the first doctor was a black man in africa. even though the first real learning institution was started by ancient africans in kush and timbuktu. even though the greeks and roman who are seen as inventors/innovators learned EVERYTHING they knew from black people in africa(math,medicine,architecture..etc....etc). all we talk about is ben franklin and thomas jefferson in shcools, but not the greensboro boys or teh emmit till incident. we dont talk about chaka the zulu or king niger and queen nigeria. we dont join alotta sites because there is always that white person saying, just get over it..yadda yadda blah blah. but they fail to realize that a white man with a criminal record has a better chance of getting a job than a black man with a college degree. they dont realize that they are born with an advantage over everyone else-their skin. they havent had to see the world through black eyes. they have never left a job interview thinking "did i not get the job because of my skin"? they dont realize that to succeed in america, you have to know all about white history, but anyone else's history isnt worth two shits.

think about this for a second. white women go and get injections in their lips to get them thicker and larger and implants in their butts to make them jucier and more desirable. when they do this people applaud and its so sexy and attractive. black woman are born with those attributes, but on black woman people say its nasty and "nigger lips" this and "ghetto booty" that. so wat? its supposed to be okay if its on a white woman?

i saw a special on msnbc earlier called "a discussion about race". part of it had a series of 6 or 7 year old children, they were all white,asian,or spanish. it was called the doll test. they were sat down at a table in front of a white doll and a brown doll (to represtnt balck people). each child was asked "which doll looks okay and which has something wrong with it?" and they all had the same response. they all said the white doll looked okay and when asked why they all said "because its white". then when asked what was wrong with the BROWN doll they all, almost verbatim, said the same thing " because its black". you see? parents are still teaching white superiority and black inferiority. not just white parents. and at the same time black people are busy trying to explain and apologize for our culture instead of just being ourselves.

whe i was in high school i use dto over hear white kids saying things like"acting black" or "thats not what black people do". o really? i always wanted to ask those kids what they knew about being black. especially what its like being a black man in teh deep south? why do people think that to be "truly black" you have to have bad grammer? or be a criminal? or be loud and ignorant?

that is why alotta black people dont join sites. because people still just dont understand.

God amen, this is the thread i shoulda been in. finally people i can relate to. i even tried playin they game and gettin them to see my perspective but its an uphill battle i dont feel like fightin to get a white person to see through anyone else's eyes but their own. in trying to relate to them i'm actually becoming more turned off by the arrogance and disrespect. look back in history, the crusades, world wars, slavery, the holocaust, white people in all their condemning and condescending natures sure are pretty fucking devilish

 

[8060]

Well said. Very well said. What is "acting black?" I didn't know that there was a protocol for being black. There's a protocol for being me, but not black. I'm amazed at how the general public will degrade black people and the things about us that they say that makes us black. We are constantly reinventing ourselves just to fit in or get through the day. I go to school with a bunch of white people and when I say that I am a shining star in my classes, that's the honest truth. It's not because I'm black. It's because I apply myself. I listen to things going on around me and I have insight about those things. I take a stand on everything. I give praise when it's due. I can humbly admit to being wrong & openly accept criticism & motivate all of those around me regardless of their color.

I love being black, whatever that means. I love me to death & first before anybody else, and that includes immediate family. We need to spread that love across all people and that's a beginning to getting rid of "acting black" and "talking white". Somebody, somewhere has got to have a patent to phrases like those that keep them alive. Dap to all of my brothers everywhere. Peace

 

[marleyisalegend]

Well said. Very well said. What is "acting black?" I didn't know that there was a protocol for being black. There's a protocol for being me, but not black. I'm amazed at how the general public will degrade black people and the things about us that they say that makes us black. We are constantly reinventing ourselves just to fit in or get through the day. I go to school with a bunch of white people and when I say that I am a shining star in my classes, that's the honest truth. It's not because I'm black. It's because I apply myself. I listen to things going on around me and I have insight about those things. I take a stand on everything. I give praise when it's due. I can humbly admit to being wrong & openly accept criticism & motivate all of those around me regardless of their color.

I love being black, whatever that means. I love me to death & first before anybody else, and that includes immediate family. We need to spread that love across all people and that's a beginning to getting rid of "acting black" and "talking white". Somebody, somewhere has got to have a patent to phrases like those that keep them alive. Dap to all of my brothers everywhere. Peace

amen. i've given up on white people that's a lost, ravenous race. we really do need some healing in our community. one of my black high-school friends was actually picked on and beat on by other black kids for getting good grades. wait, huh?!?! i don't think our great greats got mauled by german shepherds and protested so we could come to school and beat up other students for succeeding (or teachers for that matter in light of what happened in boston)

 

[ManTubeula]

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[8060]

I live in the 'hood, but I'm not of the 'hood. I don't hang with your "stereotypical" thugs, regardless of color. I do don't do hoodrats. I reside in a smart time & space. I'm always reading something. I'm always the one posing a "deep thought" question in the midst of my thugs and hoodrats. I think that it is my responsibility to help someone open their eyes to something more than what they have become accustomed to from being a product of their environment.

Just because my neighbor is "crushin' the block" doesn't mean that I have to partake in that. While I'm outside with my little brother and little cousins that's exposed to such negativity at school, I'm probing their brains filling them with them light and ideas of impossibilities. Eventually, my neighbor will wander over because he's intrigued by the inventiveness of the children that myself and my peers encourage. He's intrigued because he missed that as a child and is seeking something out. Not a day goes that we cannot help each other be better.

My personality being the way that it is has saved my life in so many bad situations. "Hey, 8060 is a good dude. He don't have anything to do with this." I thank God for that. We have to constantly try with all of us that need it. I feel so bad on my insides when young black children are walking down the street spitting nothing but profanity from their mouths. We used to do same thing when I was young, but we knew how to express ourselves within our own element. Our youth has seemed to let go of presenting themselves in the best light while remaining true to themselves. That behavior on their part is like a smorgasbord to stereotyping

 

[NCbear]

i've given up on white people that's a lost, ravenous race.

I understand why you and others say this. There's a lot of justified anger out there; I and other White people need to listen to it and learn to see people simultaneously as (1) just like anyone else and (2) special and lovable in their own individuals ways.

But how is such dismissiveness as "I've given up on white people" helpful? That's just buying into the belief that all people of X skin color have the same characteristics--a belief that racists try to perpetuate.

we really do need some healing in our community.

Yes. And "our community" includes not only people who happen to be born with the same skin color we were born with, but also people who are very different from us in many ways, not just color.

one of my black high-school friends was actually picked on and beat on by other black kids for getting good grades. wait, huh?!?! i don't think our great greats got mauled by german shepherds and protested so we could come to school and beat up other students for succeeding (or teachers for that matter in light of what happened in boston)

I see this also. I've worked at HBCUs since 2000 and see the huge increase in Black female enrollment at my current university (two thirds of our student body is female). I wonder how many young Black males think it's "cool" to "be smart"--or to achieve academically, or however you want to put it. Not enough, I would think.

And you're right--too few understand what sacrifices their older relatives made in order to fight for civil rights. At one time, plenty of people were poor but didn't act like they had no manners. Education was widely perceived as the way out of poverty. Communities were led by their older members, who had high expectations of behavior and academic performance. People depended on each other because they knew the larger, White-dominated mainstream culture was actively oppressing them in all kinds of large and small ways.

But the decline of the importance of the family--as well as the decline of the family structure, the lack of good parenting skills, and associated problems--hit Black communities hardest in this country. Some people want to say that integration was the problem--that Blacks lost that community feeling after integration. I think certain elements of the sexual revolution, the greater availability of divorce, and certain misguided emphases of welfare (have more children, get more money!) along with the overall decrease in parenting skills from the 1960s onward in American culture--as well as continued institutional racism, meaning structures that have yet to be dismantled, such as segregated neighborhoods--have contributed to the current situation.

It's particularly bad where I live. Both Whites and Blacks here tend to show scars of long-term racism. Mine is the most segregated city of its size in North Carolina. If you superimpose a gun sight (a cross surrounded by a circle) on a map of the city, it's a small Southern town grown large--there's the "Black" quadrant, which in this town is the northeast corner.

We even have to have anti-racism groups working to cross divides in public life and personal lifestyles. There's a group called "Crossing ___" (the name of the north-south highway bisecting the typically rich/White and much poorer/Black sections of the city) that works to desegregate neighborhoods. And this is in 2008!

There are signs that these kinds of efforts are working. Many Whites are now comfortable with attending my HBCU, though the majority are evening and weekend students who are not the traditional college age. Many Whites are also comfortable with walking/riding/jogging along the bicycle path/jogging trail that leads from downtown past my HBCU to ___ Lake, a manmade reservoir in the heart of an upscale Black golfing enclave.

Still, though, the highest-growth area is westward and toward rural, predominantly White communities. It's as though for some Whites, this is 1970 and they're experiencing White flight for the first time. This makes me wonder how much progress we as a nation are experiencing. I know, it's not accurate to take a small example like my 175,000-person wannabe "city" and extrapolate to the whole country, but sometimes I think, y'know, if it's this fucked-up here, how bad must it be in places like Benson (an NC coastal plain center of KKK activity) or up in the mountains? Or in other areas of the country where there are few or almost no people of color?

Back to the topic: I suppose the point of my long, meandering ramble above is that not all Whites are your enemy, not all Whites want to continue oppressing people of color (or to perpetuate racism), not all Whites think Black anger is unjustified--and not all Whites are "lost" or "ravenous." Some of us are actually working toward real equality of treatment and opportunity, as well as toward a culture that will appreciate difference.

NCbear (who hated hijacking this thread to give a White person's perspective--since he knew it would seem like yet another appropriation of Black space by a White person--but who couldn't help pointing out that blanket assertions about one skin color are as racist as the White racists you should be fighting [alongside your non-racist White brothers and sisters])

P.S. For more on Whites as an ethnic group, see Stuff White People Like at Stuff White People Like. It completely skewers White culture. (grin)

 

[Lex]

NCbear--thanks for that incredible post. One of the things we have to realize is that not all White people are the enemy and not all Black people have our best interests at heart.

I'm glad you are among us, for many reasons.

And, yes, I have seen that site: funny.

 

[marleyisalegend]

ncbear u were right i certainly apologize for that statement about white people and the best i can say is that i didn't really mean it, i was just upset that after starting a thread about stereotypes, the entire thread is pretty much a few of the same (white) members telling me that it's okay and my thoughts weren't valid and even throwing a few personal attacks against me in the nature which doesn't make what i said right, but it definitely isn't my normal thinking pattern. not that i deserve a trophy but my father was VEEEEEERY anti-white and i spent a lot of my childhood defending white people although i'd be lying if i said that some of his bigotry hasn't tainted my view. when a person who happens to be white crosses me, sometimes i cast their behavior as general for the whole population

 

[Whopper-lee]

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