Brian Jordan Alvarez

I said there were hot takes and to each their own. If you want to defend him, totally within your rights my dude. Couldn't be me though. I'm not going to ethically debate every schmuck on the Internet. I just cannot be arsed. Good luck with your future endeavors though ✌️
I can think of many more likely reason why a struggling actor would claim a famous actor sexually assaulted him many years ago than he was in fact sexually assaulted many years ago. Humans lie. Frequently. For big reasons. For no reason. For money. For attention. Humans lie. Add to that that this alleged victim admits he consented to oral sex with BJA earlier. Further add that this alleged victim is a man, with a size and height advantage over BJA, who is quite capable of defending himself against BJA. And finally, he didn't even open his mouth to say stop, in room full of others who'd certainly come to his defense. And those posting on this thread in support of this alleged victim are doing great damage to the victim by lying that he was raped, by saying a skeptical internet discussion about this incident makes one a rapist, and by a refusal to ever to engage in reasoned debate on the specific merits & broader equities around different standards of consent for homosexuals than breeders.
 
I said there were hot takes and to each their own. If you want to defend him, totally within your rights my dude. Couldn't be me though. I'm not going to ethically debate every schmuck on the Internet. I just cannot be arsed. Good luck with your future endeavors though ✌️
odd to post that you can't be bothered to post, after earlier being sufficiently bothered to post that BJA is a shitty human.
 
There is going to be quite a lot more coming on this in the next few months. There is an open and active police investigation, something that should have happened 8 years ago but like many victims Jon Ebeling was afraid to come forward to the police. People saying that coming forward is somehow an attempt to boost his career don't seem to comprehend what ACTUALLY happens to your career when you let people know you've been victimized. I also think people are skimming the details of what happened and don't really grasp the depth of how intensely this man was gaslit by people whom he thought were his friends.

Here's another perspective into the mind of Brian Jordan Alvarez:

When he released his two indie films - "Everything is Free" and "How to Be a Slut in America" - he expected everyone who participated to be sexually free with tons of on scree nudity and simulated sex. This included himself, and it's where the short video clip of him standing in the shower with a fully hard dick comes from.

However, when he signed with CAA and his career started going mainstream, he took down the streaming versions of those movies that existed. He then edited *ONLY HIS OWN* nudity and explicit scenes OUT of the movies, and then re-published them to streaming. He left in everybody else's content. He only edited out his own. That's because the only person he has EVER been interested in protecting is himself.

Anyway, whatever. I know everybody is just here to jerk off and people are annoyed that serious conversations are being had in a forum where they just wanna look at dicks, but it's really time to confront the way so many people are willing to turn a blind eye to the behavior of famous folks they like, or that they find physically hot.

There is no such thing as permanent/ongoing/established consent, regardless of your sexual identity. The longstanding sexual openness associated with queer men is not an excuse for suggesting that all queer men participate in implied consent as a general boundary. I actually have a t-shirt I wear to bear related events that says "My Identity as an Otter Does Not Equal Consent," because the lines are blurred significantly enough that many men have to be reminded that my meer presence doesn't mean you can put your hands on me.

And even *IF* it were true, as one contributor to this conversation has suggested, that consent has different definitions for gay cis men, that doesn't automatically mean that all gay cis men have universally agreed to those definitions to the point where it can be assumed that you can do whatever the fuck you want.

Bottom line: BJA is a preadtor who has a long history of sexually pursuing men who identify as straight, going back to his college years when a literal restraining order had to be taken out against him. He caught feelings for a straight actor, used his success and influence to get that actor to have consensual sex one timr, and then after being told repeatedly that it was something that wouldn't be repeated, put that actor's penis in his mouth in a room full of other people without getting consent from *ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE INCLUDING THE ACTOR IN QUESTION*.

If you can read any of that and still make excuses for this man, you need therapy.
 
There is going to be quite a lot more coming on this in the next few months. There is an open and active police investigation, something that should have happened 8 years ago but like many victims Jon Ebeling was afraid to come forward to the police. People saying that coming forward is somehow an attempt to boost his career don't seem to comprehend what ACTUALLY happens to your career when you let people know you've been victimized. I also think people are skimming the details of what happened and don't really grasp the depth of how intensely this man was gaslit by people whom he thought were his friends.

Here's another perspective into the mind of Brian Jordan Alvarez:

When he released his two indie films - "Everything is Free" and "How to Be a Slut in America" - he expected everyone who participated to be sexually free with tons of on scree nudity and simulated sex. This included himself, and it's where the short video clip of him standing in the shower with a fully hard dick comes from.

However, when he signed with CAA and his career started going mainstream, he took down the streaming versions of those movies that existed. He then edited *ONLY HIS OWN* nudity and explicit scenes OUT of the movies, and then re-published them to streaming. He left in everybody else's content. He only edited out his own. That's because the only person he has EVER been interested in protecting is himself.

Anyway, whatever. I know everybody is just here to jerk off and people are annoyed that serious conversations are being had in a forum where they just wanna look at dicks, but it's really time to confront the way so many people are willing to turn a blind eye to the behavior of famous folks they like, or that they find physically hot.

There is no such thing as permanent/ongoing/established consent, regardless of your sexual identity. The longstanding sexual openness associated with queer men is not an excuse for suggesting that all queer men participate in implied consent as a general boundary. I actually have a t-shirt I wear to bear related events that says "My Identity as an Otter Does Not Equal Consent," because the lines are blurred significantly enough that many men have to be reminded that my meer presence doesn't mean you can put your hands on me.

And even *IF* it were true, as one contributor to this conversation has suggested, that consent has different definitions for gay cis men, that doesn't automatically mean that all gay cis men have universally agreed to those definitions to the point where it can be assumed that you can do whatever the fuck you want.

Bottom line: BJA is a preadtor who has a long history of sexually pursuing men who identify as straight, going back to his college years when a literal restraining order had to be taken out against him. He caught feelings for a straight actor, used his success and influence to get that actor to have consensual sex one timr, and then after being told repeatedly that it was something that wouldn't be repeated, put that actor's penis in his mouth in a room full of other people without getting consent from *ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE INCLUDING THE ACTOR IN QUESTION*.

If you can read any of that and still make excuses for this man, you need therapy.
why would a traumatized-from-a-blowjob Ebeling continue to hang around with BJA for a year and then agree to film a scene depicting this exact traumatic event at the mouth of his abuser in an uncompensated acting job? the breeders have internalized the message of believe all women, because they know they have to say that in order to maintain access to the women they want to fuck.

of course gay men expect that our oppressors (men who have sex with women and call us queers and demean our innate sexual orientation by calling it an identity and refer to us as a cis) to side with the breeder dude. keep your hetero supremacy out of gay male culture.
 
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There's nothing new in that, which came out on the 17th the same time as the Vulture article. Brian says he asked Jon if he could blow him during the scene. Jon says Brian didn't do that. All of the alleged eyewitness accounts to Jon's consent have yet to surface. The "confession on tape" by Jon amounts to a secretly recorded phone conversation between Jon and the then-boyfriend of Brian's best friend and co-star Stephanie Koenig, a conversation that was allegedly meant to be about casting Jon in an unrelated project at that time (which they did) and then abruptly and suddenly turns to a discussion about the incident with Brian. In the recording, Jon does not in *ANY* form admit to consenting, but instead says he's gotten over the incident and forgives Brian... which is likely what anyone would say to the man responsible for casting the project he's trying to get paid work from and who also happens to be dating the best friend of the man he's accused.

There are also countless text messages from that time frame between Jon and Stephanie regarding Brian in which Brian has confessed that he did *NOT* ask for consent before sucking Jon's dick ON SET, and it still doesn't negate the fact that anyone else who was on set at the time that it happened would have had to consent to being there during an unsimulated sex act in order for full consent fo everyone involved to have been obtained.
 
'English Teacher' star Brian Jordan Alvarez accused of sexual assault: Report

So USA TODAY has BJA's response and it seems reasonable. Changes the conversation very much.
it’s the same ancient blood libel against the homosexual male as sexual predator of straight men that’s the source of so much gay bashing. it’s disgusting from this obvious liar and disgusting from the homophobic men who fuck women in this thread & call us queers.
 
There are also countless text messages from that time frame between Jon and Stephanie regarding Brian in which Brian has confessed that he did *NOT* ask for consent before sucking Jon's dick ON SET, and it still doesn't negate the fact that anyone else who was on set at the time that it happened would have had to consent to being there during an unsimulated sex act in order for full consent for everyone involved to have been obtained.

You are so extremely patient in trying to explain the basics of consent, and reviewing the facts of the case for two people who literally will not get it ever. "Gay men can't rape because only women can be raped and bisexual men are traitors to homosexuality" is actually one of the most insane fringe gay ideologies I've ever read.
 
You are so extremely patient in trying to explain the basics of consent, and reviewing the facts of the case for two people who literally will not get it ever. "Gay men can't rape because only women can be raped and bisexual men are traitors to homosexuality" is actually one of the most insane fringe gay ideologies I've ever read.
Well. I've put that one particular person on ignore. I don't even believe *THEY* believe what they're saying, but the idea that I, as a bisexual cis man, can't comprehend the nuances of cruising and consent within the gay cis man community is such a weak point of order that it legitimately makes me chuckle. As if I haven't been in the dark basement of a leather bar with my zipper down.

As insane as it sounds - and I don't mean to negate Jon's suffering - I am fixated on this idea Brian is positing that sucking someone's dick on the set of a TV show is okay because A.they had pre-established consent and B.it was a very sexually free, experimental-film environment. This is the very reason why SAG/AFTRA prohibits unsimulated sex in union movies and TV shows these days.

It used to be believed that it should be permissable as long as everyone present knew it was going to happen and had consented on paper, but it became glaringly clear that it was nearly impossible for EVERYONE on a set to have done that, and furthermore the idea that any of those people has the right to WITHDRAW THEIR CONSENT AT ANY TIME, coupled with the power dynamic that existed in which they feared for the loss of their income if they changed their mind, lead to that decision. That was a terrible run-on sentence but you get the idea.

To break it down for those who still don't understand: If a 22 year old production assistant who is getting $12/hr signed a contract saying "I am willing to be on set and present when unsimulated sex is happening," but ten minutes into witnessing that act they changed their mind, they might be too afraid to speak up and say they want to withdraw their consent because of the fear of losing their job. It's that simple.

So again, not to negate Jon Ebeling's situation, but until Brian Jordan Alvarez's attornies provide written documents - or present day statements saying they verbally consented - from EVERY SINGLE PERSON who was on set during the filming of the scene in question, we're left with a situation in which Brian sucked off his co-star on set without getting everyone's consent.

That alone should be enough for any reasonable person to be taken aback by the situation.
 
two men who fuck women, who put gay lifes in danger perpetuating the lie that gay males are sexual predators of other men like themselves who fuck women, who call gay men queers & cisgendereds & theys having this mutual conservation of gay hate where they lie through their teeth (rape is a crime and a male victim in legal fact means there is no such crime, it was not a SAG production), catastrophize (oh the poor film crew, however did they film Nymphomanic), and take the word of the straight man as of course he’s honest & the homosexual is a deviant.
 
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oh the film crew will be forever damaged, needing tons of therapy because they unknowingly were present when a man's mouth swallowed another man's dick for a brief minute underneath a sheet.

They need protection. Let's start a thread for their victimization concerns.
 
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oh the film crew will be forever damaged, needing tons of therapy because they unknowingly were present when a man's mouth swallowed another man's dick for a brief minute underneath a sheet.

They need protection. Let's start a thread for their victimization concerns.
they are survivors!

don’t forget that users of the Large Penis Support Group website are also supposed to be outraged that BJA shared his erection with the world on film! only leaked revenge nudes are ok here, mister.
 
oh the film crew will be forever damaged, needing tons of therapy because they unknowingly were present when a man's mouth swallowed another man's dick for a brief minute underneath a sheet.

They need protection. Let's start a thread for their victimization concerns.
An excellent example of minimizing something done to other people by framing it under your own comfort levels. I assume that's what you were doing here, yes? If it's insignificant to *YOU*, then it has to be insignificant to everyone ELSE... right? Yes, a very well presented example of how to be a narcissist AND an assault apologist in one fell swoop. Well done.
 
An excellent example of minimizing something done to other people by framing it under your own comfort levels. I assume that's what you were doing here, yes? If it's insignificant to *YOU*, then it has to be insignificant to everyone ELSE... right? Yes, a very well presented example of how to be a narcissist AND an assault apologist in one fell swoop. Well done.
where does it stop? Do we victimize people who get bumped into and drop their packages and things break or spill? Sometimes people grow a spine when they grow up and learn that suffering is part of life, and how to "have the wisdom to know the difference".
 
where does it stop? Do we victimize people who get bumped into and drop their packages and things break or spill? Sometimes people grow a spine when they grow up and learn that suffering is part of life, and how to "have the wisdom to know the difference".
Did you literally just comparing accidentally bumping into someone cand causing their possessions to get broken to sexual assault?

You? You're disgusting. And now, you're blocked, so have fun arguing with the windmills, Peanut!