Younggun90
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He’s famously bi. Wolf and Cliff have had several threesome scenes in the past, all with women.Wonder if he fucks women too
He’s famously bi. Wolf and Cliff have had several threesome scenes in the past, all with women.Wonder if he fucks women too
But cliff has fucked guys just as much lolHe’s famously bi. Wolf and Cliff have had several threesome scenes in the past, all with women.
So do you think he is not actually bi? Not that would be a much of a loss, he is not attractive guy but kinda lame if supposed "king of bi porn" is not bi- it makes bisexual men look like unicorns that are so rare that they can't even represent themselves in porn spaces....which is funny because number of men who id as bi increases dramatically with each gen (gen Z 7.7% men id as bi) and there are tons of hot guys unaware or in denial of their lust for gay sex which begs the question- why put as a gay pornstar unnatractive guy who is not into gay sex?Gotta be, Wolf wouldnt dare do a scene with a dude unless a woman is involved. Calls himself "The king of Bi Porn" (no literally he does) back when he did gay porn he went on a huge rant about how much he hated sex with men and how guys couldnt get him hard.
Then when started bi porn he went on a podcast saying "my vocabulary wasnt what is now, so what I said was a slip of the tongue, when I said I hated gay sex, what I meant was that I also like sex with women" Id probably buy the "slip of the tongue" comment if I didnt see that rant with my own eyes before it got deleted, it was a full-on hate speech, Ive said it before and will again about dudes like him, unless someone put actual guns to your head and forced you into those gay studios stop acting like you had no choice in it
Cliff is what he says he is.So do you think he is not actually bi?
He did gay scenes with John Johnson.Gotta be, Wolf wouldnt dare do a scene with a dude unless a woman is involved. Calls himself "The king of Bi Porn" (no literally he does) back when he did gay porn he went on a huge rant about how much he hated sex with men and how guys couldnt get him hard.
Then when started bi porn he went on a podcast saying "my vocabulary wasnt what is now, so what I said was a slip of the tongue, when I said I hated gay sex, what I meant was that I also like sex with women" Id probably buy the "slip of the tongue" comment if I didnt see that rant with my own eyes before it got deleted, it was a full-on hate speech, Ive said it before and will again about dudes like him, unless someone put actual guns to your head and forced you into those gay studios stop acting like you had no choice in it
He was talking about Wolf not CliffCliff is what he says he is.
Not what you or anyone else thinks he is.
Idk what he is, if he says he's bisexual that's his identity but imo he has some funny standards for a bisexual, but hey that his prerogative to live and do what he wants. But "King if Bi porn" thats a reach lol. Especially when he does straight scenes and bi scenes but wont do anything with men without a woman involved.So do you think he is not actually bi? Not that would be a much of a loss, he is not attractive guy but kinda lame if supposed "king of bi porn" is not bi- it makes bisexual men look like unicorns that are so rare that they can't even represent themselves in porn spaces....which is funny because number of men who id as bi increases dramatically with each gen (gen Z 7.7% men id as bi) and there are tons of hot guys unaware or in denial of their lust for gay sex which begs the question- why put as a gay pornstar unnatractive guy who is not into gay sex?
Its kinda like music industry making Madonna or Selena Gomez who can't sing for shit superstars when there are tons of girls with far better vocals amd more talent.
Well its kind of always been that way, I remember reading from the early days of gay porn Jeff Stryker was a straight dude but the face of gay porn even though he never really got involved in gay sex (said he couldnt go through with it) in movies they just used a stunt dick and spliced vids of his face in diff anglesbegs the question- why put as a gay pornstar unnatractive guy who is not into gay sex?
Fine, Wolf is what he says he is.He was talking about Wolf not Cliff
that's fine by me lol, I already said what I had to sayFine, Wolf is what he says he is.
Not what you or anyone else thinks he is.
the fact that Pierce cant get hard and doesnt know how to fuck might also be factors in his low numbers, and that rant he went on about how he was always straight and "tricked" into gay porn lolBi porn doesn’t sell, that’s why all the bisexual guys have channels on tube sites because they’re trying to make money monetizing free streaming because no one is subscribing to their Onlyfans.
Wolf’s OF like count is shockingly low for someone of his status.
Guys like Cliff, Wolf, Steve Rickz, and Pierce Paris just aren’t business-savvy. They spent years making decent money doing gay studio porn—probably $50–60K total for 50–60 scenes over a decade—and then during the OnlyFans boom, when their peers are making $60–100K+ per year, that’s when they decide to stop doing gay porn and pivot to working with women and trans performers? It makes no sense.
I see what you mean, like Michael Lucas he made a very cushy living off LucasEnt, LegradWolf seems to be doing ok with his as well, apparently like you said money is making the porn not just being in it.Like I did a rough count. From 2009 - 2019, Cliff did about 108-ish scenes. Let’s say he got paid a higher end of $1,500 a scene. That’s $162k. Let’s even round it to $200k if he got paid more for a scene. Even at $200k, that’s $20,000 a year he probably made as a gay porn star.
So like I don’t understand if he was fine doing gay porn for $20k a year, why $80-100k a year doing gay porn living in Los Angeles today and churning out collabs is such an idea he rejects.
Like they’ll let a studio make a million dollars off their gay porn careers and now OnlyFans gave them the opportunity to do the same but they reject it.
That’s what I don’t get about these guys.
no no no, I wasnt implying you thought he should start one, I was just saying you were right about owning a studio vs being a pornstar. And youre again if done right, you can make some serious coin through onlyfans, one of my favorite pornstars bought a nice big house through hisI don’t mean he should have started a porn studio, I’m saying he was doing gay porn for peanuts in the 2010s and now he won’t do it for big bucks through OnlyFans.
He could have been like Jake Daniel. Instead, he’s struggling in LA doing trans and bi porn.
who's in the right?Knowing that Nathan can suck and take Cliff's fat cock in his big and tight ass makes the fantasy more possible. I need to watch this video so bad.View attachment 93982541View attachment 93982561
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All Wolf does are bi sexual threesomes these days, that's why i love the scene with just him and CliffWonder if he fucks women too
He recently did a scene with Cole Connor for OFI’d be interested in knowing the last gay porn star he worked with that didn’t work with females. I think that would be years ago?
I'm not sure but who the guy cliff is fucking in the last photo?He recently did a scene with Cole Connor for OFView attachment 176503261again he mostly does bi and trans porn now but within the year he’s done gay porn with nakedsword,kink and squirt studios.
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