Hephaestion47
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I don't think most of his vocal audience has grown at all.
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The show was basically a knock off bo burnham. There were very few humorous moments. As someone that's been watching him for several years, it felt no different than the cringe existential crisis content he used to put out to be relatable.
I think the more serious parts where he's talking about how he's been miserable his whole life, how being in the closet only made things worse, how trying to make jokes for content about his misery because "everyone feels like that", those felt genuine, and then in typical dan fashion he has to make a cringe joke to lighten up the air.
I think he might simply not be at a stage where he can actually sit down and talk seriously about what's going on in his head without the need to crack a joke so people think he's been relatable.
The show just felt like a live performance version of his videos back when he was still making them, even if only once every 4 months. And I'm not sure it was the right medium and the right audience to basically say "the world is fucking doomed, we're unable to do shit about it, it's fucking depressing, and I'm fucking miserable", because his audience only has 2 gears, taking everything as a joke or babying him and phil. And because he keeps cracking jokes to lighten the mood, his audience just sees it as that, jokes, banter, for the lolz.
But like i said in the beginning of this unexpectedly long "review", it just felt like he was trying to be bo burnham but failing miserably
I think the more serious parts where he's talking about how he's been miserable his whole life, how being in the closet only made things worse, how trying to make jokes for content about his misery because "everyone feels like that", those felt genuine, and then in typical dan fashion he has to make a cringe joke to lighten up the air.
I think he might simply not be at a stage where he can actually sit down and talk seriously about what's going on in his head without the need to crack a joke so people think he's been relatable.
The show just felt like a live performance version of his videos back when he was still making them, even if only once every 4 months. And I'm not sure it was the right medium and the right audience to basically say "the world is fucking doomed, we're unable to do shit about it, it's fucking depressing, and I'm fucking miserable", because his audience only has 2 gears, taking everything as a joke or babying him and phil. And because he keeps cracking jokes to lighten the mood, his audience just sees it as that, jokes, banter, for the lolz.
But like i said in the beginning of this unexpectedly long "review", it just felt like he was trying to be bo burnham but failing miserably
I think a big thing too is that he just doesn’t have a dynamic personality that’s suited for live performances. He seems more like someone who assumed standup was easy and when his audience only laughs or screams as a default noise he takes that as being good at standup. Good standup comedians make it look easy but it’s wildly difficult. A major issue too is I don’t think anyone around him has the ability to say no to him (look at his book that was supposedly supervised by a clinical psychologist but has blatantly weird or dangerous advice in it) so he’s in the celebrity yes-man downward spiral I think.
It makes me sad somewhere because I feel bad for him for his struggles but just idk he feels cheap somehow now.
All that being said:
I would still bend him over a sofa arm and fuck the cum out of him in a heartbeat.
yeah, even if the show was utter shite, the fangirls would still eat it up. i mean, irrc him and phil once released a book that was basically just a scrap book and the fangirls ate it up. and the same with his mental health advice. it's always been like that tho. regardless of how bad their content got, the fangirls kept praising them.
maybe because he had done live shows before, like when he livestreamed on younow, when him and phil worked at the bbc, when they did tatinof, he thought this was just gonna be in the bag. but those things also only worked because he had fangirls kissing his ass. any criticism was shunned. the phanies would send literal death threats to anyone who brought up anything negative about what dan and phil were doing
Honestly, I didn't even bother trying it because I find both Dan and Phil a lot less charming without the other. They balance out each other's more annoying qualities well.
Hephaestion47
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I generally enjoy Dan's content but I never watch Phil content unless Dan is in it. I find solo Phil to be obnoxious.
The Phillions are definitely the messed-up side. Danosaurs tend to be far more levelheaded and kinky.
Phil's audience does tend to baby him a lot more. And that's on him. He wasn't so pg and censored before. He made himself like that. So now people get giddy if he says a swear word. He turned himself into a children's tv host. His content is very blue peter and ballamory type. There's a bit of edge every now and then, but that's like saying the wiggles have edge because they hired a hot dude.
Their joint content has been their brand for many years. They rarely work well without the other. They have good on screen chemistry. Their solo videos from their earlier days worked better because they hadn't built this codependent brand yet. But now you can't get one without the other, it just doesn't have the same spark. It's like eating from a bag of chips that's been open for a day. Sure they're still fried potatoes, but they don't taste as good.
Dan has always been the more marketable one, since he was the more popular and more attractive of the two, resulting in him getting more opportunities, but if phil doesn't get brought along, it's usually a dud
Their joint content has been their brand for many years. They rarely work well without the other. They have good on screen chemistry. Their solo videos from their earlier days worked better because they hadn't built this codependent brand yet. But now you can't get one without the other, it just doesn't have the same spark. It's like eating from a bag of chips that's been open for a day. Sure they're still fried potatoes, but they don't taste as good.
Dan has always been the more marketable one, since he was the more popular and more attractive of the two, resulting in him getting more opportunities, but if phil doesn't get brought along, it's usually a dud
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he does kinda give urinal twink vibes
lmao that sounds like tore anal when you read it out loud
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