Devin Holt
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Yeah my guess is he tried out with a management company to see if he could get more content out and make more money, and then likely saw backlash from fans and decided to drop them
It's annoying because management companies are probably going to be necessary for large creators at some point, but they need to not be horribly unethical and dishonest.
We're in a really new industry, so standards for how customers expect to be treated and an understanding of best practices in that regard by the management companies have not been defined yet at all. It's the wild west and everyone's trying to scam and screw customers over; that can't last, even if people are jerking off while hitting payment buttons.
As long as it's not intrusive/scummy it's fine. Posting about new scenes on their socials, sales, ect those are fine. DMing pretending to be the star for PPVs (obviously it's not), restructuring an existing OF and putting most old and new content to PPV? Hate to see it.
Totally agree that the big creators with lots of followers would be better off with some assistance with their page. Devin probably falls into that category (or comes close). The generic OF management companies, as of now, are complete scamming trash. I am aware of a few creators that have what they call "agents" that manage their OF pages and they seem to be a lot more honest. I think the key is that you, as the creator, have to maintain control. It's your reputation at stake. Just turning your page over to a company will likely lead to a lot of scamming. But if you maintain control over how your page is run (e.g., pricing, what gets posted when, etc.) then its not really a problem. Control is the issue. A lot of creators think giving up control to a third party company is a convenience, when it is the worst thing they can do if they want to be succesful.
Chat in DMs is a different animal. I assume that all DMs on OF are coming from a third party anymore, with a few exceptions where I've communicated with a creator through other mediums.
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I'm glad he reversed course. I've long thought he was one of the best creators, as I mentioned before. A lot of people on these platforms are shady, dishonest, or basically scammers. Devin is definitely not one of those types. That's why I was disappointed before. He's a nice guy, very creative, and insanely cute (plus he's an uncut white guy from Texas 
). He can probably maintain his subscriber base with minimal effort with the shear content he has. A few videos a month and pictures more regularly are definitely enough to maintain his pretty healthy base (based on likes alone, it has to be at least 250-300/month, though probably more).
Third-party DMs should be disallowed on platforms like these. That's one of the points of a platform like OF, the ability to DM with the content creator. I'm not sure how it's even legal. If someone subscribes thinking they're talking to the content creator and it's some third-party pretender instead, there are laws on the books for that sort of thing. I think Devin has been legit with his DMs, but there are many that aren't.
I think collabs behind PPV is a fair deal. Idk what kinkier stuff means, but OF has been getting more prudish.
). He can probably maintain his subscriber base with minimal effort with the shear content he has. A few videos a month and pictures more regularly are definitely enough to maintain his pretty healthy base (based on likes alone, it has to be at least 250-300/month, though probably more).Third-party DMs should be disallowed on platforms like these. That's one of the points of a platform like OF, the ability to DM with the content creator. I'm not sure how it's even legal. If someone subscribes thinking they're talking to the content creator and it's some third-party pretender instead, there are laws on the books for that sort of thing. I think Devin has been legit with his DMs, but there are many that aren't.
I think collabs behind PPV is a fair deal. Idk what kinkier stuff means, but OF has been getting more prudish.
I think DM's are one of the big problems for creators on OnlyFans. Can you imagine having a couple of hundred people of varying levels of sanity messaging you and many expecting an instant reply? I can see that being a lot of hard work and a massive time sink.
He's put a $20 level on his Fansly for kinky stuff, so far it just looks like a couple of videos of him peeing. I doubt they'll go on OnlyFans since peeing is against the T&C (A couple of Devin's early videos had peeing, but no idea if they're still up on OnlyFans).
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That's a pretty high price, but I can't say it isn't tempting for what it is.
Why does OF have this odd stipulation against peeing? it makes no sense.
it's not just peeing. it's most fetishes in general. i've seen creators complain about not being allowed to post content that's in the realm of kink, or that they uploaded and it got taken down by onlyfans. i think devon complained about one of his videos getting taken down. i think it was one of the roleplay asmr ones. don't remember which.
they draw really weird lines with kink/fetish content. they won't allow piss, frown upon sex outdoors, but allow feet, incest roleplay, age play. i think there's a handful of "alpha dom" straight dudes who have onlyfans account whose content is basically maga roleplay, they act like hardcore magats. and that's fine, but someone taking a piss is a no?
Him banging the dune popcorn cup. Those bristles didn't look pleasurable
Context matters. Because we were talking about him doing piss videos, so your post just made it sound like him pissing looked uncomfortable
Does any have his piss video? I'm not really into piss but Devin seems so vanilla I'm surprised he did a piss video.
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I would encourage people to subscribe to keep things going. A lot of pages are effectively scams, but Devin's is not. However, it's definitely still early days for his kinky/watersports page. The video where he pisses on himself definitely looks older, but he hasn't had an opportunity to post it until now. There's another where he pees for like almost two minutes (he wasn't joking when he said he to go). He has a legit pretty uncut dick (I love that he's uncut!). He pulls his foreskin back just a bit to let the stream go.