Sure I wanna hear it, not saying bi guys with preference for women don't exist, but I'm sure some of them lie to themselves.I was going to jump in and say something but... Arguing is tiring.
Your answer was in your question.
Sure I wanna hear it, not saying bi guys with preference for women don't exist, but I'm sure some of them lie to themselves.I was going to jump in and say something but... Arguing is tiring.
Your answer was in your question.
In any relationship, you have to establish what the boundaries are going to be. Who is going to top and be the bottom. Is this person going to be your boyfriend, FWB, fuck buddy....whatever.Through my short journey of discovering that yes, indeed I like having sex with men, I happened to meet many other bi guys in and out of closet (heck I'd say I have a preference for bi men) and there's one consistent thing about them, 90% of them claimed they had a strong preference for women, which is fine I guess, but felt that many weren't sincere to themselves for that matter.
Aye, they are extremely cock hungry but also like to clarify they have a girlfriend, which is fine I guess too, but sometimes sounds like trying to reafirm themselves. Like, why don't you tell them if they love you so much?
Like this ex soccer player wanted to be used and abused in every possible way by another guy, but was deadly afraid of leaving his gf, when clearly he had a preference for men in all fields.
Many times you see online bi guys treating their attraction to men as non important, as something to be ashamed of, like it's bigoted to state you might prefer men instead of their idealized idea of a woman, with even some treating them like perfect pure being who can't do no wrong (which I find patronizing in most ways)
Or this other guy I knew, teased me a lot, clearly payed a LOT of attention to men's bodies, follows lots of hot guys in Instagram, seemed to be much more comfortable around men and was constantly eating me with his eyes, complimenting me or paying attention to my clothes, then comes out and pretty much after that goes to date a very plain looking girl.
Or all the examples in here of guys saying they could never fall for a guy or that they will never.
Once again, not my place to be that judgy, mostly asking, but as someone who's in the 40/60 - 60/40 attraction scale most of the time, I feel many of them are lying to themselves.
Sorry if this feels somewhat accusatory.
Edit: also many of those said guys when trying to justify the cheating, hardly ever mentioned loving their girlfriends, it was more like: "I'm supposed to have a gf"
So it becomes a debate of you assuming they are "lying" to themselves. These debates never end well.... but I'm sure some of them lie to themselves.
Through my short journey of discovering that yes, indeed I like having sex with men, I happened to meet many other bi guys in and out of closet (heck I'd say I have a preference for bi men) and there's one consistent thing about them, 90% of them claimed they had a strong preference for women, which is fine I guess, but felt that many weren't sincere to themselves for that matter.
Aye, they are extremely cock hungry but also like to clarify they have a girlfriend, which is fine I guess too, but sometimes sounds like trying to reafirm themselves. Like, why don't you tell them if they love you so much?
Like this ex soccer player wanted to be used and abused in every possible way by another guy, but was deadly afraid of leaving his gf, when clearly he had a preference for men in all fields.
Many times you see online bi guys treating their attraction to men as non important, as something to be ashamed of, like it's bigoted to state you might prefer men instead of their idealized idea of a woman, with even some treating them like perfect pure being who can't do no wrong (which I find patronizing in most ways)
Or this other guy I knew, teased me a lot, clearly payed a LOT of attention to men's bodies, follows lots of hot guys in Instagram, seemed to be much more comfortable around men and was constantly eating me with his eyes, complimenting me or paying attention to my clothes, then comes out and pretty much after that goes to date a very plain looking girl.
Or all the examples in here of guys saying they could never fall for a guy or that they will never.
Once again, not my place to be that judgy, mostly asking, but as someone who's in the 40/60 - 60/40 attraction scale most of the time, I feel many of them are lying to themselves.
Sorry if this feels somewhat accusatory.
Edit: also many of those said guys when trying to justify the cheating, hardly ever mentioned loving their girlfriends, it was more like: "I'm supposed to have a gf"
I get it, man on man sex is scary, I understand how vulnerable makes some guys feel, but I wasn't gonna wait until my 60s to do something.
I'm one of the shy ones, but if I have a relationship with a guy, I don't want it to be just sex. I want to know that guy, what he likes, what his hobbies are, I want to know him, not just his organ. I don't have many friends because of shyness, and those I do have are not the kind that will talk about intimate things like sex or what they like to do when making love or whatever I like in sex. This forum has been wonderful for me here because I am bi and am only now pursuing curiosities I have had most of my life and finding guys that will at least share not just their sexuality but their personalities. I only wish that one of them would be meat so that we could share things not just virtually but really.Through my short journey of discovering that yes, indeed I like having sex with men, I happened to meet many other bi guys in and out of closet (heck I'd say I have a preference for bi men) and there's one consistent thing about them, 90% of them claimed they had a strong preference for women, which is fine I guess, but felt that many weren't sincere to themselves for that matter.
Aye, they are extremely cock hungry but also like to clarify they have a girlfriend, which is fine I guess too, but sometimes sounds like trying to reafirm themselves. Like, why don't you tell them if they love you so much?
Like this ex soccer player wanted to be used and abused in every possible way by another guy, but was deadly afraid of leaving his gf, when clearly he had a preference for men in all fields.
Many times you see online bi guys treating their attraction to men as non important, as something to be ashamed of, like it's bigoted to state you might prefer men instead of their idealized idea of a woman, with even some treating them like perfect pure being who can't do no wrong (which I find patronizing in most ways)
Or this other guy I knew, teased me a lot, clearly payed a LOT of attention to men's bodies, follows lots of hot guys in Instagram, seemed to be much more comfortable around men and was constantly eating me with his eyes, complimenting me or paying attention to my clothes, then comes out and pretty much after that goes to date a very plain looking girl.
Or all the examples in here of guys saying they could never fall for a guy or that they will never.
Once again, not my place to be that judgy, mostly asking, but as someone who's in the 40/60 - 60/40 attraction scale most of the time, I feel many of them are lying to themselves.
Sorry if this feels somewhat accusatory.
Edit: also many of those said guys when trying to justify the cheating, hardly ever mentioned loving their girlfriends, it was more like: "I'm supposed to have a gf"
I am seeing that myself!OP, there is still lots of social pressure on being gay or bi. Of course most men are leaning towards saying that they are more straight because that's the norm. Thats why there are still many in the closet. But I think their actions say it all.
Obviously.OP, there is still lots of social pressure on being gay or bi. Of course most men are leaning towards saying that they are more straight because that's the norm. Thats why there are still many in the closet. But I think their actions say it all.
My phone likes to replace things when I type. The following ...I'm one of the shy ones, but if I have a relationship with a guy, I don't want it to be just sex. I want to know that guy, what he likes, what his hobbies are, I want to know him, not just his organ. I don't have many friends because of shyness, and those I do have are not the kind that will talk about intimate things like sex or what they like to do when making love or whatever I like in sex. This forum has been wonderful for me here because I am bi and am only now pursuing curiosities I have had most of my life and finding guys that will at least share not just their sexuality but their personalities. I only wish that one of them would be meat so that we could share things not just virtually but really.
Yes. Maybe that's why I think guys are scared to be friends with me. I want to know a guy not just for his organ. I want to know the guy as well: what moves him, what makes him happy, what he loves to do. I think that reduces the number of guys who would be friends with me because not many are willing to invest trust much into a friendship. I find that knowing a friend whether a man or a woman and what the like makes a foundation on which you can build a stronger friendship and relationship, and that knowledge carries over into the sexual realm as well, things we say things we do with that knowledge can be used to stoke those flames as well.What I find even funnier is that some people get really defensive when I bring out this topic, so I'm kinda surprised the ones that disagree with me doesn't seem very bothered by it.
Cause in the past the reaction was mostly like: "I love women, men are just for sex when I'm bored and I'm actually disgusted by them"
"Not gay, I have a cock fetish" "It's ok cause it's bro sex, we take care of each other" and so.
Only guy I have ever truly liked (also bi) with whom i flirted a lot too (we were very handsy with each other) literally run away the moment I tried to turn our friendship into something more meaningful.Yes. Maybe that's why I think guys are scared to be friends with me. I want to know a guy not just for his organ. I want to know the guy as well: what moves him, what makes him happy, what he loves to do. I think that reduces the number of guys who would be friends with me because not many are willing to invest trust much into a friendship. I find that knowing a friend whether a man or a woman and what the like makes a foundation on which you can build a stronger friendship and relationship, and that knowledge carries over into the sexual realm as well, things we say things we do with that knowledge can be used to stoke those flames as well.
That is so sad!Only guy I have ever truly liked (also bi) with whom i flirted a lot too (we were very handsy with each other) literally run away the moment I tried to turn our friendship into something more meaningful.
I was actually very sad about it, cried a lot over what I lost, even if we didn't have any romance, I was still mourning the loss of that friendship.That is so sad!
I have experienced that kind of pain. It takes years of your life. It's called a broken heart, and that is worse than any physical pain you will go thru! When singing gets me as a friend or lover, they have me until they don't want me anymore. Having experienced that kind of pain, I never want to cause anyone that kind of pain!I was actually very sad about it, cried a lot over what I lost, even if we didn't have any romance, I was still mourning the loss of that friendship.
Now I don't care, he can walk into traffic if he wishes to.
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