I think that there is a coming period of sexual conservatism coming. If the trend toward sexual conservatism becomes popular, it means that there will be a setback in LGBTQ+ rights. I once heard that "Homophobia is the best disinfectant for people who pretend to be queer or gay4pay". One of the bright sides of this coming sentiment is that it raises the stakes of whether people will identify as gay or not. Filtering out men who anti-gay4pay has issues with.
For the people who are against gay4pay
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Homophobia is perpetrated by closeted homosexuals to penalize open homosexuals.
Every single person who has performed in same sex porn and identified as heterosexual has been a proponent of anti-gay legislation.
This has always been and will always be the case.
LPSG posters think we need to "evolve" into heterosexuality.
It's my first time hearing of this. I think it's just the perpetual contrarians. They like to be the opposite of things so that when something becomes "mainstream", they'll shift to another or opposite side.
The only hard lines for this is, just leave kids alone and consent always. Other than that, get your freak on.
The only hard lines for this is, just leave kids alone and consent always. Other than that, get your freak on.
I never worry about what other people do .. especially with their bodies ..
Gay 4 pay is ok if the guys gets paid to do few things with another guy it’s when they are doing it a lot and have tons of videos on the site
Real life — a guy was to pay me because he knows I am gay or if I paid a straight guy to have sex even if it’s just a blowjob and rimming his ass .. then that’s our right to do so.
If you’re talking about the site .. and don’t like the gay4pay aspect don’t watch it.. for me I see it’s gay4pay the guys are hot I get to see them make out. Suck n fuck.. then I am happy..
We have entered a time where people think what they think is all that matters.. and I am sure there are thousands of others feel same way but there are thousands that feel the way they do..
This is the point where everyone turns a blind eye toward each other and let each other enjoy what they enjoy and live life…
We only have one life to live I’d hope it can be better spent than worrying about issues like this
Gay 4 pay is ok if the guys gets paid to do few things with another guy it’s when they are doing it a lot and have tons of videos on the site
Real life — a guy was to pay me because he knows I am gay or if I paid a straight guy to have sex even if it’s just a blowjob and rimming his ass .. then that’s our right to do so.
If you’re talking about the site .. and don’t like the gay4pay aspect don’t watch it.. for me I see it’s gay4pay the guys are hot I get to see them make out. Suck n fuck.. then I am happy..
We have entered a time where people think what they think is all that matters.. and I am sure there are thousands of others feel same way but there are thousands that feel the way they do..
This is the point where everyone turns a blind eye toward each other and let each other enjoy what they enjoy and live life…
We only have one life to live I’d hope it can be better spent than worrying about issues like this
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Pretty sure you don’t know what homophobia is cause all the homophobes are open straights
Bisexual men are much more homophobic than heterosexuals.
You assume that I don’t know their nature and I don’t have any mechanism to defend myself. I know that they hate me so why not used their hate for my benefit.
Mods, please don't delete this post. I know that politics aren't supposed to be posted. However, I think that the tensions in " Openly Gay Trying and Experimenting with Str8/bi/ftm Porn!" is political and philosophical. Instead of digging your head in the sand, wouldn't it be better to face it head-on? I am not talking about current politics, but how does society handle homosexuality?
Because gay rights as with the rights of any minority group have to be respectable, especially in America, though, I don't believe in policing gay porn stars. I think that the issue is about the legitimacy of homosexuality and the conditions in which they are tolerated. Right now, I believe that the disconnect between your group and the group that wants to police forms of homosexual expression is about where the line is drawn.
From what I can tell from the pro-sides post:
- People have the right to identify as what they want
- There is nothing wrong with sexual experimental or sexual fluidity
- People have the right to have sex with other individuals of legal age as long as it's consensual
Primary Focus for your group's side:
- Sexual Expression
- Sexual Freedom
The other is worried about the optics of the representation of homosexuality and how that would affect their situation going forward.
Have you thought about whether or not the people on the opposing side are worried about the fact that if homosexuality is a choice then their legal rights and social standing will fall? It may not be about the porn necessarily, but how homosexuality is perceived by the general popular and governmental bodies at large? This is similar to how upper-class blacks felt about lower-class blacks. The upper-class blacks thought that the lower classes were the ones that where holding them back from assimilating.
Secondly, most women are weary of men who experimented with men. The majority of those men's sexual preferences would call them gay and exclude them from the dating market.
Because gay rights as with the rights of any minority group have to be respectable, especially in America, though, I don't believe in policing gay porn stars. I think that the issue is about the legitimacy of homosexuality and the conditions in which they are tolerated. Right now, I believe that the disconnect between your group and the group that wants to police forms of homosexual expression is about where the line is drawn.
From what I can tell from the pro-sides post:
- People have the right to identify as what they want
- There is nothing wrong with sexual experimental or sexual fluidity
- People have the right to have sex with other individuals of legal age as long as it's consensual
Primary Focus for your group's side:
- Sexual Expression
- Sexual Freedom
The other is worried about the optics of the representation of homosexuality and how that would affect their situation going forward.
Have you thought about whether or not the people on the opposing side are worried about the fact that if homosexuality is a choice then their legal rights and social standing will fall? It may not be about the porn necessarily, but how homosexuality is perceived by the general popular and governmental bodies at large? This is similar to how upper-class blacks felt about lower-class blacks. The upper-class blacks thought that the lower classes were the ones that where holding them back from assimilating.
Secondly, most women are weary of men who experimented with men. The majority of those men's sexual preferences would call them gay and exclude them from the dating market.
Where do you get this opinion from.. out of your ass?
I think politics and anything negative from the government point of view and religious .. shouldn’t be posted here.. if you want to make this about politics and religion then find a site that allows it
I come here to chat about my sexual preference and my past and fantasies and so on.. not to listen to a bunch of trump supporters that think gay and bisexuals need to leave the USA so as one guy posted on another site that he wanted a straight America ..
I think rules should be made that politics and religion not allowed on here unless you create a subject / thread and put in it that can post them in that topic
I’ve never cared about what others think of my sexual presences or my activities and I am not about to worry about it.now
SmallTeaPlant, you and I have talked about this numerous times already.
While my "opposing side" is chastising and accusing homoflexibles and gay experimenters (in porn, of all places) of being the "ruin of gay men", what it ("opposing" side) has completely disregarded time and again is the fact that many of us homoflexibles, bisexuals, transexuals, pansexuals, etc. have also lived through the same painful historic struggle as you did; to gain rights and to spread awareness. (Some of us even went through the tried-and-failed ex-gay conversion processes ourselves! Just as much as 100% gays did.)
We share every bit in your stress and negative impact when something hurts our LGBT rights or sets us back.
What makes it completely difficult for us is when you focus so much on political image, you become single-mindedly obsessed with trivial things that shouldn't matter (specifically, gay guys who proudly announce that they are self-acceptingly gay, couldn't be happier than to be gay, but also are confident in themselves enough to experiment with women... in porn... of all places...); and use those as some excuse to cast us aside. All you've done is created disunity and aggravated our divide. By pointing fingers at us, you've ultimately exacerbated the very issue you were meaning to alleviate.
When bisexuals and homoflexibles giving the false impression and hope to homophobes that we can change straight, who owns the burden of responsibility? Us (bi's and flexibles), or people who have been given resources and simply chose not to know better? Who should you really be concerned about?
No bisexual has ever suffered 0.0001% of what gay people have suffered.
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I am sorry about the way people think about the straight - gay - bi line .. sexual things that we say we will or won’t do is a thin line
I have always known I like guys but I have also been with few women .. so people “ label” me as bisexual .. which is fine
I see sex as something to do whenever feel like it.. I do things sometimes .. because I am in the mood some times and not others
I won’t sit here say we all paid for sex or been paid .. ( or both) but if I were to pay a straight guy 500 to 1000 bucks to let me suck his dick and rim his ass then it’s his body and my money
Not all straight men can be bought But once bought they may return to do it again and again but then I wouldn’t pay as much unless some fucking we’re to occur then
After so many times it’s not gay for pay.. but if the site and the guys that pay for it or get paid for it is up to them
Too many people worry about this stuff .. when just worry about what they do in their homes is what should be doing..
I have always known I like guys but I have also been with few women .. so people “ label” me as bisexual .. which is fine
I see sex as something to do whenever feel like it.. I do things sometimes .. because I am in the mood some times and not others
I won’t sit here say we all paid for sex or been paid .. ( or both) but if I were to pay a straight guy 500 to 1000 bucks to let me suck his dick and rim his ass then it’s his body and my money
Not all straight men can be bought But once bought they may return to do it again and again but then I wouldn’t pay as much unless some fucking we’re to occur then
After so many times it’s not gay for pay.. but if the site and the guys that pay for it or get paid for it is up to them
Too many people worry about this stuff .. when just worry about what they do in their homes is what should be doing..
You already know that that is not true.
All this victimhood crying is really just downright pathetic.
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