rodsmith: I guess I fall into that mid category between grower and shower. When hanging normal im usually around 4-5" and I noticed that in the shower with other guys they really didnt have that much to show. It doesn't double in size only to about 7.25" (a lot smaller than most of you guys but larger than average). But at times, again like you guys, it shrinks almost to nothing, in the pool, when I'm cold, or nervous, for instance. But I do have to flop it out to take a leak and sometimes while at a urinal with other guys this can take some serious digging around in my undies thru my fly to straighten it out just to pee and I don't want to seem like im spending too much time down there, if you know what I mean. Then there's the problem with draining the last drops of piss out of it, there's so much length there to squeeze out I almost always wind up with drips down my leg or a wet spot in my boxerbriefs or jock. I guess guys with less "hose" dont' have this problem. Please discuss your experience with this problem