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So honest question. I'm gay. I've given head to a few friends who identify as straight. I'm kinda curious how it works out from your side. I get the "a bj is a bj" kinda thing but I'd never do anything with a female to get off. So how does it work out for those who have experienced this kind of interaction.
 
So honest question. I'm gay. I've given head to a few friends who identify as straight. I'm kinda curious how it works out from your side. I get the "a bj is a bj" kinda thing but I'd never do anything with a female to get off. So how does it work out for those who have experienced this kind of interaction.
Probably 95% of the best blowjobs I’ve gotten are from guys, bigger mouths, throats, less drama, ——definitely cock hungry!

I have -0- attraction to guys, offer -0- recip—-for a true cocksucker——it’s all about the cock.
 
Any guy who identifies him self as 100% straight is not 100% straight. But consider your self as the cause of that we get these questions over and over again.

And therefore i won't answer these questions anymore.
 
Any guy who identifies him self as 100% straight is not 100% straight. But consider your self as the cause of that we get these questions over and over again.

And therefore i won't answer these questions anymore.
Honestly didn't mean to offend anyone. Was just kinda curious
 
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Probably 95% of the best blowjobs I’ve gotten are from guys, bigger mouths, throats, less drama, ——definitely cock hungry!

I have -0- attraction to guys, offer -0- recip—-for a true cocksucker——it’s all about the cock.
 
Yup. I am one of those. I am a straight man, but do enjoy sucking a cock and being sucked by a guy once in a while. I have had people say that I am not straight then. I disagree. I am not attracted to males at all, just enjoy oral (give/receive) once in a while. I do not ever kiss or enjoy any kind of anal sex. I love every kind of sex with women and love female bodies. They are just sexy to me. Men are not.

Any guy who identifies him self as 100% straight is not 100% straight. But consider your self as the cause of that we get these questions over and over again.

And therefore i won't answer these questions anymore.
I should have added to my quote this: Any guy who identifies him self as 100% straight and let a guy give him a blowjob, is not 100% straight.
 
I should have added to my quote this: Any guy who identifies him self as 100% straight and let a guy give him a blowjob, is not 100% straight.
Yeah, I wish people understood this. It isn’t incredibly bothersome, but mildly annoying that people seem to think 100% straight does not exist.

A lot of dudes claim to be 100% straight, and participate in gay activities, thus are not 100% straight but like to keep the label. That’s their prerogative. In that way, it’s probably confusing to people like the OP who then think 100% straight allows for exceptions. The reality is there are probably a larger section of the population that falls between 1% and 99% then they admit, and again, it’s fine. Be what you want.

For some of us, there is absolutely ZERO interest in engaging in ANY sexual activity with a man. There are zero gay men who can overcome that no matter what skill they bring.
 
I had less than 100%—changed as site wouldn’t let me post.

I Don't care how I’m perceived —-others opinion is not my business——guys invented cocksucking.
And—there’s a pletoria of very talented , no recip expected , eager to improve, malleable , submissive , OUTSTANDING cocksuckers.
 
Got head from two guys in my life!.

The first was my best friend who came out to me in university. He told me he was gay and was seeing someone and wanted to give his boyfriend a blowjob but had never given one before. He asked if he could practice on me. I spoke to my girlfriend about it and she offered to show him how to give proper head. The two of them used my dick as a training tool.

Within a week he was better at it than my girlfriend. I still remember him coming to tell me how he shocked his boyfriend by giving him the best head he ever had. Was honoured to help him out.

The second time was in my early fifties when my girlfriend’s gay friend was saying he gives way better head than she could. My girlfriend took him up on the challenge.

He gave the best head I ever had and I enjoyed the absolute look of joy on his face as I came then the look of fear as I just kept pumping cum down his throat until he pulled off in fear. My girlfriend was laughing at him as I shot over his face saying “I guess I never told you but my boyfriend cums like a horse.”

I still think back to his blowjob every now and then.
 
I think I've said it before on this board and I don't pretend to be totally straight anyway but the best blowjobs I've ever had in my life have been from guys

No woman has made me think I'm gonna pass out yet
 
I should have added to my quote this: Any guy who identifies him self as 100% straight and let a guy give him a blowjob, is not 100% straight.
I think this is bullshit. When a dog humps a couch, is he doing it because he's into couches? Are women who use vibrators robosexuals?

Back in the day, not too long ago actually, masturbation was considered by many, even the experts, to be an extreme form of narcissism because only a self-obsessed pervert could be aroused by himself and brought to orgasm by his own body and appearance. Point being, often it's just about stimulation, not attraction. And possibly more to the point in many, possibly most, societies throughout time, getting a BJ wasn't considered "gay", just if you were the one giving. (Though most societies didn't really conceive of things like we do in that department, it was more about masculinity and being the one in the active position, not passive.) In ancient Rome, for example, you could apologize to a friend who you wronged, or pay off part of a gambling debt, by blowing them. The guy getting blown was in no way lessened by this activity, he was just a horny guy getting a nut, and he even felt like more of a man because another man was taking a subservient position relative to his own masculinity. The guy blowing him though, was essentially put in his place, so this served as a kind of apology.

What's "gay" and "straight" changes radically over time. When I was a kid, if you got a massage from a guy, even a professional masseuse, that was pretty gay. The only way that you could excuse it was by being injured and needing a "sports massage" - kind of like how guys try to seem manly by having a "sports hernia" when there is no such thing. A hernia is a hernia.

All of this said, I'm not someone for whom words don't have real meaning, and if you're going to a guy for a BJ because you are into guys giving you BJs as opposed to women, you're at least a little bi. But I'm here to tell you that the sheer numbers of guys who take advantage of the fact that many guys will suck them off and treat it with all of the drama and intimacy of a game of darts is quite large. There are tons of pretty normal guys out there, many even consider themselves straight (though I think that's BS) who love to suck cock and will do it for a buddy as basically a "bro" thing, little different than helping a buddy out by playing wingman. No drama, no hoops, no owing anyone anything, just easy head on demand. Guys' libidos usually far outstrip a woman's, and even if they fuck easy, most women aren't super into giving head, especially regularly, especially in a totally casual manner to help a guy take the edge off, or recover from a bad day, or whatever. But there are a ton of guys who will do that, do it with great skill, and then help you fix your patio deck like nothing just happened because, ultimately, nothing really did.

I think that if it makes you at least bi to get head from a guy, probably most guys are bi, though some never act on it because it threatens their masculinity. I became interested in m/m BJs in my 20's back in the day when the internet didn't exist and you got ads for porn in the mail. One day, mixed in with the straight stuff, I got a flyer for a series of tapes of a little Mexican guy who got an apartment by a Marine base and, over the course of just a couple years, filmed himself blowing HUNDREDS, by some accounts over 1K, of some of the most manly guys our country produces. These guys were the very picture of straight, masculine, alphas. So were they actually bi, or were they just young, dumb, and full of cum? Or you could also look at adult bookstores back in the day. I used to be interested in those too because, though I never participated myself, I was amazed at the huge after work rush of clearly married guys swinging by to pretty obviously get blown in the back before heading home to the wife and kids. There are just a million examples of this. Craigslist was another, where it seemed that every small town, at any given time, had hundreds of guys with dead bedrooms looking for a source of regular head, women preferred, but they knew what the score was. They just needed to get off without drama or the possibility of blowing up their marriage - which affairs with women usually bring.

I know I've kind of written a book here, but I've always been fascinated with things that look one way on the surface but are totally different when you look a bit deeper. Sex is one of those things. Sex is complicated as hell with zero sense to it. There are't usually hard definitions. I mean, what about guys who are all about pussy but who are into wearing a butt plug or like to get pegged? (Btw, wanting to fuck a woman in the ass also used to mean that you had serious homosexual urges.) Are those guys secretely wanting a dick in their ass, or do they just like the stimulation? I'm sure that for some, they do want a dick but can't face up to it, but for others, probably the majority, they just love the fact that you anus has a ton of sensitivity, and prostate massage can cause a very intense orgasm. I'm not into it, but I don't get judgy about the guys who do and insist that they must be at least a bit bi. Again, it's often about simple stimulation and not attraction, and I'd argue that attraction is the secret sauce that starts blurring the lines between straight and bi.
 
So honest question. I'm gay. I've given head to a few friends who identify as straight. I'm kinda curious how it works out from your side. I get the "a bj is a bj" kinda thing but I'd never do anything with a female to get off. So how does it work out for those who have experienced this kind of interaction.
Straight on Grindr i presume.
Each can identify as they want but if straight men have sex with both men and woman what's left for bi guys?
The one you seduce and invest time and resources to have sex makes the difference.
What's the drama to accept bi guys?
 
Straight on Grindr i presume.
Each can identify as they want but if straight men have sex with both men and woman what's left for bi guys?
The one you seduce and invest time and resources to have sex makes the difference.
What's the drama to accept bi guys?
The drama is that words are meaningless if they don't have definitions, so we are arguing over those definitions.

A brain twister for a lot of guys who take your position is what about all the gay guys out there, especially in high school, who were deep in the closet, were not attracted to women at all, but accepted BJs from them because they wanted to get off too, and a BJ allowed them to not be super involved with any of the bits that they found unattractive? Were they bi too? Tons of bi guys got married back in the day and had kids strictly because of social pressures, so were they bi simply because they had sex with women, or is there orientation and natural proclivities actually what defined their sexuality? If they were thinking of a dude wile drilling their wife, are they bi?

Or as I mentioned before, what abut all the guys who like something in their ass? is it straigt if it's only dick shaped but is bi if it's an actual dick? Or is there a bit of a gray area here?

Or what about guys who die virgins? Are they not straight, bi, or gay simply because they didn't ever physically act on their desires?

Men are highly sexually motivated and that drive can be expressed in a lot of different ways that do not fit well with binary labels. I can pretty much promise you that if the roles were reversed and women were the ones who gave great head, freely, and without complication, and guys where kind of persnickety about it, required you to be on good behavior, perfectly manscaped, fresh from the shower, and treated the whole thing like they were donating bone marrow, gay guys everywhere would be sneaking out to have women blow them. And like I said, back when being gay got you ostracized if not beaten, a lot of gay guys did exactly that in order to get something, anything within accepted norms.

There are lots of bi guys out there who are bi in a lot of different ways just as there's a lot of straight and gay guys who all over the spectrum in terms of what they want and what they do with their bodies.
 
The drama is that words are meaningless if they don't have definitions, so we are arguing over those definitions.
Who is arguing?
The problem is not the definition is what third party people do with it, all definitions should be accepted, not lighting torches or something.
I found a 100 percent gay on real life that if he didn't say he was gay I would have presented with a single woman.
I found another who was married with kids but it was a previous generation I guess the times have changed.
 
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Novel aside, yeah, if a dude wants to get head from another guy, he’s bi. Maybe the focus should be on acceptance of being bi rather that acceptance of straight meaning sex with guys.
But the thing is, we're pretty much the first major society who's tried to put such hard edge definitions on a person's sexuality, and it's not working well. Most societies revolved more around masculine and feminine energies and behaviors. Like I said, in many, possibly most societies, it wasn't considered unmasculine, unmanly, or in any way feminine to take head from a guy, and it was a pretty routine event. But now it's at least bi.

And I can't help but notice that the people who are most adamant that a BJ make someone at least bi are guys for whom it seems that the label of straight is super important to their identity. I mean, there's been a ton of comedy done on this where a guy presented as super open minded about labels and anti-homophobia, but then someone assumes that they are gay or bi, and they get super defensive.

Also, I find it rather ironic that there's a lot of guys who consider themselves 100% straight who spend a lot of time on a site which is specifically about dicks. They're apparently of the opinion that they can have a fascination with dicks, but still be 100% straight. I would argue that a guy getting a blowie from a guy while thinking about pussy can, in fact, be totally straight, but a guy who's looking at dicks, talking about dicks, and spends a lot of time in the dick department is clearly not 100% straight. In fact, there are a ton of guys who even suck cock who consider themselves totally straight because their interest is strictly about cocks, not men. I think that's BS because cocks are a pretty key part of being a man, but it just goes to show you how ultimately malleable labels can be with people.
 
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Got head from two guys in my life!.

The first was my best friend who came out to me in university. He told me he was gay and was seeing someone and wanted to give his boyfriend a blowjob but had never given one before. He asked if he could practice on me. I spoke to my girlfriend about it and she offered to show him how to give proper head. The two of them used my dick as a training tool.

Within a week he was better at it than my girlfriend. I still remember him coming to tell me how he shocked his boyfriend by giving him the best head he ever had. Was honoured to help him out.

The second time was in my early fifties when my girlfriend’s gay friend was saying he gives way better head than she could. My girlfriend took him up on the challenge.

He gave the best head I ever had and I enjoyed the absolute look of joy on his face as I came then the look of fear as I just kept pumping cum down his throat until he pulled off in fear. My girlfriend was laughing at him as I shot over his face saying “I guess I never told you but my boyfriend cums like a horse.”

I still think back to his blowjob every now and then.
This is great! I’ve had my cocksuckers give lady friends tips—-and demonstrate.

I’ve had the ‘wife wants big cock’ deal—-where it often turns out ‘hubby wants it worse’—and ended up with them both on my cock

I’ve had 2 cocksuckers—-with individual ‘special talents’. Share and teach each other…….and—again—two mouths on mycock.

I LOVE “wife wants big cock’”——usually she does end up wanting it—-but once she feeds it to him—-she’s in control—she owns him—-and VERY big role reversal—and the more she submits to me, the more she doms him.
 
But the thing is, we're pretty much the first major society who's tried to put such hard edge definitions on a person's sexuality, and it's not working well. Most societies revolved more around masculine and feminine energies and behaviors. Like I said, in many, possibly most societies, it wasn't considered unmasculine, unmanly, or in any way feminine to take head from a guy, and it was a pretty routine event. But now it's at least bi.

And I can't help but notice that the people who are most adamant that a BJ make someone at least bi are guys for whom it seems that the label of straight is super important to their identity. I mean, there's been a ton of comedy done on this where a guy presented as super open minded about labels and anti-homophobia, but then someone assumes that they are gay or bi, and they get super defensive.

Also, I find it rather ironic that there's a lot of guys who consider themselves 100% straight who spend a lot of time on a site which is specifically about dicks. They're apparently of the opinion that they can have a fascination with dicks, but still be 100% straight. I would argue that a guy getting a blowie from a guy while thinking about pussy can, in fact, be totally straight, but a guy who's looking at dicks, talking about dicks, and spends a lot of time in the dick department is clearly not 100% straight. In fact, there are a ton of guys who even suck cock who consider themselves totally straight because their interest is strictly about cocks, not men. I think that's BS because cocks are a pretty key part of being a man, but it just goes to show you how ultimately malleable labels can be with people.
Doug , you’ve got interesting well spoken thoughts.

So many of my ‘first time’ cocksuckers’——-kinda in surprise——“well, not only that you knew/sensed things about me I hardly knew myself”——but that you made it so natural , you were beyond ‘accepting’—-more recognizing, affirming/ defining/ validating—-and your absolute assurence, your certainence, your guidance——your naturalness —