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The problem with this way of thinking (and I’m saying in general, not directly to you) is too many people start acting in a way that (consciously or not) gives off the impression that they’re somehow entitled to know about these things.

They feel entitled to know whatever truth (and in many cases convince themselves the truth isn’t reality if it’s not what they want to hear) they’re seeking.

I mean in this thread alone his sexuality continues to be debated because he was PAID to have sex on camera. I think the moment people start going past simply enjoying whatever content is available and always accepting that the person is selling sexual fantasy (regardless of how much of it is acted/put on) that’s when it gets problematic and dehumanizing for sex workers.
I think it mostly comes down to two things

1) who side are you really on? and
2) is it too good to be true?

1. I feel like the main reason for the speculation is the question that, is this guy one of us? Is he simply another one of us who knows the life of being gay? Or is he someone who is gay when t benefits him? Can he simply turn on being gay and preform gay acts to exploits the lust that men feel for him (or rather his body) and then go back to be normal in society. Is that fair?

2. Is it really possible that someone like him can be available to me? Gay men tend to have a lot of different types that excites them. You have some who like the feminine boy type (James Charles), to the less feminine (Troy Sivan), to the just plan skinny boy (Timothee Chalamet), to the active and very athletic (Tom Holland), to the typical American Jock type (Jake Burton). Sometimes watching porn; people develop a interest in certain ones; whatever the type is and wonders if they can get him. Although its possible to meet a gay person like Jake, the odds are very small at least conventionally. Most people who watch porn, watches it with the desire of having sex with the person the see who fits the fantasy type, a type they dream of having a relationship one day (the type of person who is preforming, not the performer).

So the main question is, is seeing someone like Jake preform gay sex realistically something gay people should take stock in?
 
I think it mostly comes down to two things

1) who side are you really on? and
2) is it too good to be true?

1. I feel like the main reason for the speculation is the question that, is this guy one of us? Is he simply another one of us who knows the life of being gay? Or is he someone who is gay when t benefits him? Can he simply turn on being gay and preform gay acts to exploits the lust that men feel for him (or rather his body) and then go back to be normal in society. Is that fair?

2. Is it really possible that someone like him can be available to me? Gay men tend to have a lot of different types that excites them. You have some who like the feminine boy type (James Charles), to the less feminine (Troy Sivan), to the just plan skinny boy (Timothee Chalamet), to the active and very athletic (Tom Holland), to the typical American Jock type (Jake Burton). Sometimes watching porn; people develop a interest in certain ones; whatever the type is and wonders if they can get him. Although its possible to meet a gay person like Jake, the odds are very small at least conventionally. Most people who watch porn, watches it with the desire of having sex with the person the see who fits the fantasy type, a type they dream of having a relationship one day (the type of person who is preforming, not the performer).

So the main question is, is seeing someone like Jake preform gay sex realistically something gay people should take stock in?

I feel like that was a whole lot of words to state the obvious/what’s already been said.

I’ll answer anyway

1. I want you to really think hard for a second if there’s any “going back to normal” for someone who has done porn and been recognized all over the internet now outside of it. Do you think he’s living ‘normally’ despite the fact that he left porn years ago and yet, to this very day, people are still discussing him and his sexuality because of that porn? Plus any “exploiting” he did pales in comparison over time to the gay/bi/straight/etc people who have exploited him by viewing/consuming studio and OF content for free.

2. Porn is fantasy. Can real life sometimes imitate and embody fantasy? Yes. But people need to realize porn brain rot is real when you fantasize too close to the sun for too long. Performers who shot their scenes and left it at that are not responsible for whatever fantasy or projection you have afterward.
 
I don't really know if gay porn is the type of thing that should be inspiring such introspective questions of the watchers? I guess it comes down to... Is it really that deep?

I think it mostly comes down to two things

1) who side are you really on? and
2) is it too good to be true?

1. I feel like the main reason for the speculation is the question that, is this guy one of us? Is he simply another one of us who knows the life of being gay? Or is he someone who is gay when t benefits him? Can he simply turn on being gay and preform gay acts to exploits the lust that men feel for him (or rather his body) and then go back to be normal in society. Is that fair?
 
I don't really know if gay porn is the type of thing that should be inspiring such introspective questions of the watchers? I guess it comes down to... Is it really that deep?
"Is it really that deep?" that's a perfect statement right there!
Enjoy the fantasy while it lasts!
 
I don't really know if gay porn is the type of thing that should be inspiring such introspective questions of the watchers? I guess it comes down to... Is it really that deep?
Precisely. If the guy is hot, just jerk off and cum dude.
 
Precisely. If the guy is hot, just jerk off and cum dude.
Jesus, if all you want to do is disengage your brain, chase cock and cum, then do so and don't waste your time and ours complaining that some of us have the curiosity that God gave geese and are mildly interested in who some of these performers are.

This is a forum. Quit whining when a commenter expresses some perfectly normal human curiosity.
 
Jesus, if all you want to do is disengage your brain, chase cock and cum, then do so and don't waste your time and ours complaining that some of us have the curiosity that God gave geese and are mildly interested in who some of these performers are.

This is a forum. Quit whining when a commenter expresses some perfectly normal human curiosity.
You can of course use the “forum” reason but you shouldn’t even be snooping around the personal lives of all these performers anyway.

Also, the topic of this guy’s sexuality has been discussed to death anyway. The topic just resurfaces every few page in this thread. It’s gay for pay. The guy is straight (or mostly straight or whatever) and decided to do gay porn when he was younger. Now that he is older, doesn’t want to do it anymore but has a strange OF page that doesn’t even show his dick even though there is hardcore porn of him out there. Some people refuse to believe that he is straight as he has bottomed and looks like he enjoys it not realising there is money involved. Because who knew you needed to be gay to do gay porn if not you are exploiting the lust of gays. Which is just ridiculous. Some of these gay performers have wives and girlfriends btw just fyi.

Sound familiar? Because such topics are also discussed in other threads. It is the same few talking points over and over again. There is nothing to talk about and a performer’s sexuality is really none of your business. You are acting like this topic hasn’t been discussed multiple times and it really is the same thing over and over again. But sure… feel free to talk about it.
 
I feel like that was a whole lot of words to state the obvious/what’s already been said.

I’ll answer anyway

1. I want you to really think hard for a second if there’s any “going back to normal” for someone who has done porn and been recognized all over the internet now outside of it. Do you think he’s living ‘normally’ despite the fact that he left porn years ago and yet, to this very day, people are still discussing him and his sexuality because of that porn? Plus any “exploiting” he did pales in comparison over time to the gay/bi/straight/etc people who have exploited him by viewing/consuming studio and OF content for free.

2. Porn is fantasy. Can real life sometimes imitate and embody fantasy? Yes. But people need to realize porn brain rot is real when you fantasize too close to the sun for too long. Performers who shot their scenes and left it at that are not responsible for whatever fantasy or projection you have afterward.
I don't really know if gay porn is the type of thing that should be inspiring such introspective questions of the watchers? I guess it comes down to... Is it really that deep?
"Is it really that deep?" that's a perfect statement right there!
Enjoy the fantasy while it lasts!
In most cases you are right, thats what it is and all it is. But for other people, particularly younger, seeing gay porn is a insight to the type of sexual content they like. For teenagers, they would have seen guys from RandyBlue or SeanCody that represented the type of jocks they grew up with but may have avoided at all cost. Seeing those jocks engaging in gay sex would be insanely euphoric and something to look forward to, not realizing its all a lie.

There is also the foreign concept of being able to have sex with people you are not attracted to. Even with Viagra or injections, how can someone be able to preform at all. If it was a simple thing, then gay men would have sex with women which would end one social problem in the world. So the question is how?

If you look more into the matter of porn or sex work in general, you quickly understand the gay or straight go out the window. Although people have a hard time accepting that truth, even if the model explains it. The porn star Viggo Sorensen gave brief descriptions about his career in porn and admitted he is straight. He even said he has a had time getting hard. Almost immediately his thread exploded with comments about him being bi or in denial.

Maybe if people knew more about the business and the truth, then these comments and questions would dissipate. And people would not get so caught up in what they are seeing
 
You can of course use the “forum” reason but you shouldn’t even be snooping around the personal lives of all these performers anyway.

Also, the topic of this guy’s sexuality has been discussed to death anyway. The topic just resurfaces every few page in this thread. It’s gay for pay. The guy is straight (or mostly straight or whatever) and decided to do gay porn when he was younger. Now that he is older, doesn’t want to do it anymore but has a strange OF page that doesn’t even show his dick even though there is hardcore porn of him out there. Some people refuse to believe that he is straight as he has bottomed and looks like he enjoys it not realising there is money involved. Because who knew you needed to be gay to do gay porn if not you are exploiting the lust of gays. Which is just ridiculous. Some of these gay performers have wives and girlfriends btw just fyi.

Sound familiar? Because such topics are also discussed in other threads. It is the same few talking points over and over again. There is nothing to talk about and a performer’s sexuality is really none of your business. You are acting like this topic hasn’t been discussed multiple times and it really is the same thing over and over again. But sure… feel free to talk about it.
No matter if it's Jake or anyone else when these guys are not working in the adult industry they are not out and about in their daily lives looking at other guys. At least not in a sexual way.

So many gay men (not all) let their fantasies go beyond their heads and really want to believe that these guys have to be closet gay, or "bi-curious" just to fulfill their sexual fantasies.

But we can't make someone gay or bi if that's not who they are no matter what the circumstance. The adult industry likes to hire hot straight guys to be strippers in gay clubs, and adult films. It's just a job for these guys because they find out real quick that the real money is not in entertaining women, but gay men.
 
In most cases you are right, thats what it is and all it is. But for other people, particularly younger, seeing gay porn is a insight to the type of sexual content they like. For teenagers, they would have seen guys from RandyBlue or SeanCody that represented the type of jocks they grew up with but may have avoided at all cost. Seeing those jocks engaging in gay sex would be insanely euphoric and something to look forward to, not realizing its all a lie.

There is also the foreign concept of being able to have sex with people you are not attracted to. Even with Viagra or injections, how can someone be able to preform at all. If it was a simple thing, then gay men would have sex with women which would end one social problem in the world. So the question is how?

If you look more into the matter of porn or sex work in general, you quickly understand the gay or straight go out the window. Although people have a hard time accepting that truth, even if the model explains it. The porn star Viggo Sorensen gave brief descriptions about his career in porn and admitted he is straight. He even said he has a had time getting hard. Almost immediately his thread exploded with comments about him being bi or in denial.

Maybe if people knew more about the business and the truth, then these comments and questions would dissipate. And people would not get so caught up in what they are seeing

I sometimes fall into that camp, believing that a male performer must have some type of attraction when he's engaged in sex acts with another male.
The way I think about it is there's no amount of money that would ever cause me to have (any type of sex) with a woman, and that's no offense to women at all, I'm just full on gay and can't even imagine it LOL
As soon as I see a girlfriend or wife, I'm out, fantasy ruined, Thank you, next (as Ariana Grande sings).
 
I sometimes fall into that camp, believing that a male performer must have some type of attraction when he's engaged in sex acts with another male.
The way I think about it is there's no amount of money that would ever cause me to have (any type of sex) with a woman, and that's no offense to women at all, I'm just full on gay and can't even imagine it LOL
As soon as I see a girlfriend or wife, I'm out, fantasy ruined, Thank you, next (as Ariana Grande sings).
Another way of looking at it is they're all hired actors. The same way we watch actors in different TV shows and movies.

Just because Chris Evans played a superhero or Chris Hemsworth played Thor, doesn't mean when the camera is off that's who they really are. Even though people from the very young to the very old want them to be those characters in real life, they're not.

I know it all may sound very elementary putting it that way, but as paid actors they become those characters for that role. Just the same as straight guys in gay porn.

So no matter if it's a normal Hollywood productions, or adult productions, off camera all of these guys are not what we see in the roles that they're playing.
 
The most irritating this when it comes to this type of guys is that this "it's a job" "it's acting" etc. apply only when they are doing gay porn. But when they do straight porn its magically not a job, 100% real, bragging how much they loved fucking those women.

If you are gonna really be gay-for-pay and exploit community when treat all your "performances" equally and "perform" equally enthusiasticly with both men and women.
 
The most irritating this when it comes to this type of guys is that this "it's a job" "it's acting" etc. apply only when they are doing gay porn. But when they do straight porn its magically not a job, 100% real, bragging how much they loved fucking those women.

If you are gonna really be gay-for-pay and exploit community when treat all your "performances" equally and "perform" equally enthusiasticly with both men and women.
Yeah it really messy; these people will use also double standards; when a guy x with girl is rock hard, into eating pussy, cum from fucking her etc. its supposed to be a proof how straight he is but when he does the same when with guy its acting and just magic of editing and how care you even suggest he is not 1000% straight, you only say it because you want to believe you have a chance hooking up with him blah blah blah.


[Ironically "Stu" is way more into his SC co-star than that woman he had that messy straight scene with... same with Abe].

But remember porn is ACTING and Ian Mckellen didn't actually defeat Barlog on the top of Zirakzigil.
 
The most irritating this when it comes to this type of guys is that this "it's a job" "it's acting" etc. apply only when they are doing gay porn. But when they do straight porn its magically not a job, 100% real, bragging how much they loved fucking those women.

If you are gonna really be gay-for-pay and exploit community when treat all your "performances" equally and "perform" equally enthusiasticly with both men and women.
Which Gay4Pay porn stars have done this?
 
Yeah it really messy; these people will use also double standards; when a guy x with girl is rock hard, into eating pussy, cum from fucking her etc. its supposed to be a proof how straight he is but when he does the same when with guy its acting and just magic of editing and how care you even suggest he is not 1000% straight, you only say it because you want to believe you have a chance hooking up with him blah blah blah.


[Ironically "Stu" is way more into his SC co-star than that woman he had that messy straight scene with... same with Abe].

But remember porn is ACTING and Ian Mckellen didn't actually defeat Barlog on the top of Zirakzigil.
People are just sick of hearing this bullshit all the time again and again; some idiot really want to comvince everybody/want everybody to think he is straight by saying how much he disliked gay sex or how he had to disconnect or some other bs. Shaming gay men fantasies and homophobia thats all.

I mean where are all bisexual gay pornstars who would speak with such passion how much they enjoy both men and women and putting as much energy into convincing random people they are bi?
 
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While I generally agree with that concerning most muscle guys on sites like this, Jake is a little different since we have seen him fucking guys bareback and both breeding an ass and being bred himself. Ok he might not do it in his personal life but the fact he actually has fucked men, whatever the reasoning, opens the door just a tiny bit.
He's gay enough for me.
 
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