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Huge_Nuts,

But it is so titillating that our Congressional leaders have to get involved (and the FCC) and so that they can show that they are doing their job. And oh yea, I suppose that they watched that tit flashing a dozen times to stoke that moral rage. Hey, it is easier to watch tit flashing than to tend to the country's business.

I wonder if the outraged and angry indulge in sex fully covered? Ya know, to avoid the sight of all that skin. I seem to remember that in many religions that man/woman was made in God's image; thus, I fail to see why a bare boob is offensive.

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nelsondogg: [quote author=jimbo67 link=board=meetgreet;num=1075825894;start=0#7 date=02/03/04 at 16:34:03]That stunt was out of place.  You have to realize that the Super Bowl was broadcast live around the world.  Consider the image this projects of American society.  We are perceived by many as a pagan society and this action reinforces that image.   No wonder Muslins hate the USA and fear our influence on their culture.  In Muslin countres, a woman can be stoned to death for showing her ankles.  Imagine what they would do to Janet after she shows the world her breast.

I am not a prude, but this stunt was inappropriate and and embarrassed the USA in front of the entire world. [/quote]

Your kidding right? The rest of the world outside of the fanatical Muslim countries think we are nuts for making such a big deal about this. TV in most countries show a lot more skin and sex than we do - check out even Canada. The predominant news story around the world is our over-reaction to the boob as opposed to the boob flash itself. Who cares if Muslim countries hate us? They hate us already because we don't cover our women's faces. I'd rather be part of a pagan society than some intolerant fundamentalist one that stones women for showing skin.
 
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Solis24: Well for whoever's curious, from what I see here in Germany, people aren't at all shocked that a piece of tit was made public at the superbowl and of course don't care to know how it happenned. They do however seem to be amazed at how much of a scandal this is turning out to be, causing US-Americans to be indeed viewed as way too prudish. You see the occasionnal boob here on tv, in a commercial or wherever and nobody seems to care. Why should they? It's just skin.
 

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Solis25 -- This is an off-subject comment, but I want to send you a big THANK YOU for helping me with a problem I've had for years! I never thought of writing "U.S.-American" in referring to citizens of the United States. I always think of Mexicans, Canadians, South Americans and all who live in the Americans when I hear 'us' called "Americans" and it bothers me that we so easily exclude them.

"Citizens of the United States" seems a bit labored, but sometimes I do resort to its use. Knowing how so much of the world brands us as being "the haves" and them the "have nots", I hesitate saying anything to intensify this resentment. You have solved my problem!

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Evolon: i am glad to see that i am not the only one to see this the way i do... big freaking deal... i personally think that it was a super kewl thing to do... people are seriously losing it over janet's breast, and im laughing in the face of every ultra-conservative...

on a more serious note... this is definitely making the u.s. look pretty terrible... i think they are hadling this the wrong way... we look like (not to offend) mormons compared to the rest of the world (save the muslims)... we are without a doubt far too concerned witht the human body, and the baring of it on national telivision...

but think about it... how many car shows have women in full length black dresses... how many cheerleaders get hired because of their ability to hold an intelligent conversation...

it would be interesting if we could find out how many of these ultra-conservatives have porn stashes, or subscribe to playboy or penthouse... just a thought...
 

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You know what is silly about our country? I saw a tit on a news show (I can't remember which one) and it was during "family hour". Just because it had to do with beast cancer was it okay. America get over it, it was just a tit! Over half the population have them and it is not just for sex! I think the rest of the world is laughing at us for causing such a uproar. They even banned Janet from the Grammys.
 
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headbang8: [quote author=DeeBlackthorne link=board=meetgreet;num=1075825894;start=0#14 date=02/03/04 at 21:05:05]

Okay, here's my take.  I think you make good points overall, but I politely disagree with the resulting consequence of your judgment.

...The performance was... provocative... and yes, it bordered on titillating (no pun intended), but the game continued unerred.  I highly doubt that one tit really upset the balance of the game that much...

...and if we are to make such accusations, let's just take a look at that streaker fellow.

...The stunt was in questionable taste, and though I'm unsure just how much of the audience consisted of younger viewers, I remember hearing screams of excitement -- not boos, jeers, guffaws, or torches being ignited in fury and condemnation.  Hell, I was screaming like a damn fool in sexual excitement, too.

But are we to make heavy-handed judgments?  What I mean is, how degenerate of a nation can we possibly be to emphasize this incident, knowing good and damn well that our everyday programming is riddled with violence, gender politics, drugs, harsh depictions, and plenty of gratuity boobie?  Sure, MTV's played heavily into that titillation angle to satisfy its younger demographic, but come now, we've seen it before and we've seen it plenty.  If this were Victorian England, oh God yes, we shalt scream and fuss!  But wake up.  It's 2004 and it hardly qualifies as a travesty.

...But, seriously, lighten up.  Like I said, we see way worse on a day-to-day basis...

Ease down.[/quote]

Hear, hear.  

As an American who has lived much of my life overseas, I can confirm what several posters have said.   At times like this, the rest of the world rolls its eyes, shrugs its shoulders and wonders what Americans are so upset about THIS time.

If a woman's breast is obscene, and two teams of grown men beating the crap out of each other on the playing field is not, then America has its values screwed.

If a kid can reach the age of 5 in America having witnessed thousands of murders on TV but never see a breast, then we need more breasts on TV!

Replace every act of violence on TV with a pair of boobs, and America will be a better place.

To use Dee's words, "questionable taste" is not the same as "immoral".  The materialism that commercial TV spawns is far more morally questionable than ogling a tit.  

(And I say that in the full knowledge that I make my living in commercial TV.  THAT keeps me awake at night more than sexual guilt over anything I--or anyone else--have done, seen or desired)

Besides, thanks to a politically motivated impeachment attempt led by the very same conservatives that complain most loudly about exposing kids to sexual material, every 5th-grade history student will know the difference between a blowjob and going all the way.  

Someday, I want to see Janet's tit on display in the Smithsonian, with crowds of schoolkids lectured on how curious it was that early 21st century Americans thought it was such a big deal.  

Grow up, America!  

hb8

(By the way, I was amused to read that a White House spokesman made it clear that President Bush switched off the SuperBowl before half-time.  He's lying!  He ogled Janet's titties like everyone else!  Impeach him!)
 
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Mighty_Joe: I agree that this was NOT the time or place for her to do this but I still can not understand why it is OK to show tits in the movies but not dicks.....even flacid ones.
 

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Even Rush Limbaugh in referring to the Super Bowl and the erectile dysfunction commercials said that America's problem isn't that its oversexed, but undersexed.

While the show was incredibly tacky sounding (I only watch the 4th quarter), and none of N-Sync can act so it was obviously staged, it really isn't that big a deal.
 

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I've thought the same thing re. showing tits and not dicks, Mighty_Joe. The phallus has always been the forbidden sexual organ to show in our culture. The Greeks were accustomed to the flaccid one on statues and in early Oriental paintings the erected dick was shown. We are getting more liberal with sexual organs in news media and movies. Last night I saw the DVD "Showdown in Little Tokyo" and after seeing Dolph Lundgren naked, Brando Lee tells him, "You have the biggest dick I've ever seen on a man."

I think all the naked bodies available to everybody at any time on computer will have a more liberal effect in other areas in time. Stick around and find out!
 
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hngblkmn: hi there,
for us it wasn't a big issue at all.


america, america......we are in 2004!

by the way i'm from amsterdam.......Europe.

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roedhunt: I am glad to read that the majority of you was not offended by what happened. I also noticed the few who objected to it. However, I am in totally agreement with you who admit Americans are prudes. And that the phallus has not been popular in movies. The male fanny has begun to show up more frequently, but most of the actors who do are married (probably their wives are saying "come on honey, give the women something to look at!")...

As far as it being shown in a "family event" (yea right. sure its for the family. uh huh...NOT!), I thought the super bowl was for men.. with beer, pizza, chips and testosterone... silly me.. I also find it amusing the the parents of today were the same ones who got drunk, smoked pot and had a LOT of unsafe sex... Boy did they grow up to be prudes or what? Just like the hippies who demanded liquor and drugs for THEM, but changed the laws for THEIR kids... Geez... :mad:

Years ago, I was watching a daytime talk show talking about how more and more show has sex or sexual references in it. I was disgusted at these prudes, so I changed the channel. Guess what was on the other channel??? A close up of a vagina!!! Big as life! Covered the whole damn screen. As I sat their opened-jawed, slowly a head came out.... Oh sure, birth of a baby is fine.. closeup of a PUSSY even... *sigh*

BTW, did you know way back in history (as roystoys mentioned), the phallus was so popular, that monument and walls and other things was build in the shape of the phallus? And loads of sexual drawings... But you never see THOSE in history pictures.. hehe The phallus was also worn around the neck of men so they can be strong.

Amazing how the world reversed itself.... :-/
 

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Just remember, the vagina is a beautiful flower.

The real problem is that American society is so schizoid wrt sex that it's either be a prude or allow for rape. (I sometimes think this country should change its symbol to the dog: Only sees black and white, and a blurry picture at that.)
 
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dotadone: So, we are next going to put all tits in jail? whuy is it okay for mom to have them but other females? just don't show them. it's only a fucking average tittie, a boob, a mammary, a bit of skin that protudes more than the surounding skin and also provides food for newborns....U.S. ? America? politics? embarased? offended?...Soo so many people died in the middle east wars and we are pissed and offended about a tittie. even the EVIL NIPPLE was not even shown, mabey because Mike is freaky(?) the whole fam should be suspect. I'm not going to tell my mom her tits offended me, this is plain racist, woman hating....p.s. Justin is smelling like a bitch more than ever. (he and his family are offended)
 
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dotadone: oh yeah almost forgot, THE MEDIA and its "STARS" run and rules the minds of the MASSES & MASSAS, most are just superficial. Beauty on the outside or fame does not mean the heart or mind are not all fucked up.KILL YOUR T.V.
 
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aliasdick: I cannot believe that a penis site is talking about Janet's tit? This was sooo last year at this point in the month.

I think it is so funny that everyone is making such a big deal about it. I must have been watching another Super Bowl program. I watched the entire Janet/Justin gig and the tit was on like 1.5 seconds. If you blinked...you missed it. So I'm wondering what was the big deal?

Out of place? Yes! Shocking? No! Damaged done to children under 10? No! Americans made a big deal over 1.5 seconds of a tit. Well that is what they all say. No one was that shocked! Curious....maybe. TiVo had its biggest night since its launch. Janet made internet history as being the most searched topic ever! She bypassed Britney Spears and 9/11. So we made it a big deal by viewing it over and over and over again.

It's also bullshit about the Super Bowl being a family show. We have half dressed cheerleaders with their asses and tits almost out. I never remembered football being a tamed sport. You also have millions of people who are drunk as shit and they're driving home from the game or parties.

For the most part...we're just putting our energy into petty bullshit and avoiding real issues. It's an election year, the economy still sucks, there is still a war and no one can seem to find those darn WMDs!
 
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headbang8: Jonah Bloom in Ad Age 16 February 2004

"In the same week that Janet Jackson's cheap n' chesty display prompted more than 200,000 complaints to the FCC, former Sex Pistol John Lydon, appearing on a top-rated U.K. show I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here!, used the f-word, followed by a vulva vulgarism in telling the 12 million-strong live audience that he was displeased they hadn't voted him off the show. Fewer than 100 people complained to the regulator.

One might conclude this makes Brits base folk who have too willingly accepted a lowest-common-denominator tabloid culture. Brits might counter that making a big fuss about such vulgarity only encourages the juvenile jokers who use it as a means of getting attention, and that government and media time devoted to such silliness also distracts from bigger issues. But that's another debate."