Julian morris
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Julian Morris is now OUT AND PROUD ... about being a user of psychedelics and especially mushrooms!!! The second pic is from his IG Story today.
Happy Pride!![Screenshot 2021-06-18 at 18.37.01.png]( "Screenshot 2021-06-18 at 18.37.01.png")
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Happy Pride!
It’s not recreational but dosed in a way to alleviate mental illness
I'm not sure Julian's enthusiasm for psychedelics is solely for treating his mental state or anyone else's.
But tripping is not the point. It's Pride Month. I just think it's weird that since Julian is clearly not hiding his relationship, posts gay-related political stuff etc. and Pride images on his stories, he's never said he's proud to be out, and in interviews on gay-themed work when asked about playing a gay character he's evasive. But he's "proud" to support this.
I think he's talented, but it's ... odd.
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There’s nothing wrong with him choosing not to put out a statement about his sexuality. Hollywood is still extremely homophobic and since he normally plays straight characters his career would be jeopardized. He’s open enough and definitely isn’t closeted.
I have no clue about his feelings towards recreational use, but a he and his partner are supporting/part of a what I’m guessing is a nyse public announcement for a pharmaceutical company that uses mushrooms for mental illness. Recreational use is still very much illegal in the states.
Will stop making this thread about this except to say yes, he trips, and the whole medicalisation issue has always been connected to the risk and possibilities of having easier access to psychedelics with the right doctor. And I say that having had plenty of access to pot when I was younger - no consequences.
But again, this isn’t about the drugs. I just wish he would say he’s gay or bi if he’s asked about how it feels to play a gay role. Be proud.
that would end his career though, why would you want him to do that?)
Actors and fans blaming sexuality need a reality check. Take a look at Julian's IMDB page. He had a supporting role in a film in 2018 and two guest shots on a series since 2017 - nothing in production. Refusing to say he's gay isn't boosting his career. In fact, his repressed sexual side – the one he reveals on IG - is much more interesting than his work since 2017.
Jonathan Groff has been out for years and his career is doing well. While Julian's career has not been thriving Jonathan headiined Mindhunter and continues to work more than Julian.
Jonathan Groff - IMDb
Ben Whishaw has a career Julian would be lucky to have, in or out of the closet. Most people in the industry would probably say it's because he's a better actor.
Ben Whishaw - IMDb
Zacharay Quinto plays the iconic Spock in a major film franchise and has a production list better than Julian's, and he's not a better actor than Julian.
Zachary Quinto - IMDb
Even Luke Evans. who chose not to duck the "you're an out gay actor" confrontation in 2014, realized no one cared. He starred in the Alienist, was the lead in the Pembrokshire Murders, and is in the new Nicole Kidman series. Compare his IMDB page to Julian's
Luke Evans Has Been Out for Years, But He's Finally Stopped Hiding
Luke Evans - IMDb
And I love that Lana Wachowski cast Groff, Brian J. Smith, Neil Patrick Harris, etc. in Matrix 4. all out.
It's silly to say today that being gay would end your career, but I think we should draw a distinction between encouraging people to speak up and benefit those less privileged in the community and condemning those who for their own reasons choose not to. And we don't know Julian's full story, his family, his career, what he's being through, no? So I personally would choose to give him the benefit of the doubt. But of course I agree any public figure being more proudly queer is something we should celebrate, but not necessarily demand.
Exactly. I don't think I condemned him - or that you're saying I was – I just posted what I did from the start because I thought it was funny because he had no anxiety of being proud to support something very controversial and posts so much LGBT-"friendly" content (support) and doesn't hide his relationship, but when asked about playing a gay role, ducked the question.
Julian has been acting since he was young and had most of his success playing a certain "cute" type in standard Hollywood fare. It's where he wants to live and work, even though his last best work (Man in an Orange Shirt and Little Women) were BBC productions. I'm sure his agents and publicists have been the primary reason he tries to say so much pro-gay stuff on IG but stays on the closeted side of the line. Every indication is that he has a supportive family and lives a pretty ballsy and daring life - celebrating at Burning Man, hanging out with openly gay people, posing nude and freely publishing all indications of a long-term relationship with a man.
I'm just not going to buy into the presumption that he's been trauamitized by his sexuality - rather than this is nothing but a calculated Hollywood decision, and if the abuse comes from anywhere, it comes from agents and publicists and anxiety about his own talent.
Very good points, I haven't followed his career as close as you are, but if as you demonstrated he's being pressured not to come out for short-sighted career reasons, then I feel not necessarily angry but sad for him and his choices. Like I try to express in my post, there's a lot of nuance between those who always infantilize people by excusing their behavior due to presumed trauma and those who feel entitled to tear down people privileged in whatever way. So I guess the consensus here is we should look forward to a day where he isn't afraid to show the world his true self, and especially at this day and age there really is less room for excuses based on fear or cynical reasons.
This list ignores the hundreds of other actors who didn't make it as far as this group. Furthermore, none of them has had the success of any straight mainstream actor on film or tv. The reason why we know who this group is off the top of our heads is that there haven't really been that many new gay actors booking even the roles that they've managed to. Mindhunter has been canceled for a while, Whishaw doesn't have American film or tv success, Quinto did Star Trek and has been making his own projects for years so someone will hire him and Luke Evans is mostly a blip. Unless you're NPH, Matt Bomer or Jim Parsons then good luck.
Does being out in Hollywood end careers? Not if you're above a certain point where you've already managed to book notable roles. Does it make it a lot harder? Yes, it does. No gay actor on that list has said otherwise.
My perspective on Julian is that he's out. He's absolutely not hiding anything. Anyone that follows him could guess he's out. He hasn't said, "I'm gay" because it's obvious. He's not treating anyone like they're dumb and like he needs to say it.
Straight people don't have to write an essay proclaiming their sexuality and he's simply taking that route until someone asks him directly in an interview and he's ready to talk about it. (And even then I can see him mentioning Landon and not dwelling on anything.) I doubt he's being pressured or he wouldn't be as open as he is on Instagram. A publicist would have absolutely shut that down a long time ago. He just may not want to make it anyone else's business beyond what he posts there.
Here's a couple of photos from Julian & Landon's appearance at Nasdaq yesterday morning:
![Julian and Landon in Times Square.jpg]( "Julian and Landon in Times Square.jpg")
![Julian and Landon with Christian Angermayer.jpg]( "Julian and Landon with Christian Angermayer.jpg")
That smile gets me every time
I'm going to start with your last point, that he's just being silent "until he's directly asked" about his sexuality. No one is ever going to ask that in a dignified interview about work. But he was asked to comment on playing a gay role and dodged that question in an interview about The Man in the Orange Shirt.
But you are now arguing with something I never wrote - this idea that most actors or no actor's careers would "be" harmed by being out. I made no such claim. I said it depends on the actor and many have done well and are out and doing better than Julian in the current climate. You even added to the list with actors I didn't mention and there are more, but again, that's not the issue. Most aspiring actors fail to become stars regardless of their sexuality and truly closeted and successful actors – unlike Julian – have a hard time proving otherwise until they come out.
But since you chose to go negative on openly gay actors to defend Julian, you should have clicked those links and really processed the credits of Evans, Whishaw, Groff and Quinto. All of them have more work in bigger projects scheduled than Julian. You discredit Whishaw's and Evans' work, but as I wrote Julian's last big credits with significant screen time were BBC productions (2017), and not US productions. And as for dismissing Evans and Whishaw – Whishaw had a lead role in Mary Poppins Returns (Disney no less), had a recurring role in the US series Fargo in 2020 and has been playing Q for years in the Bond films, with more TV and film in the works. Evans had the Hobbit film series, has just come off of two successful crime dramas and has three films in the works and a series with Nicole Kidman, Melissa McCarthy etc. Groff will be in the Matrix, Quinto in the new Trek, etc –big US films.
But let's deal with your claim is that Julan is "out" and that it's "obvious" he's gay. I have always agreed with this. My point has consistently been that that he is already effectively out - openly political on gay and trans rights ... and his relationship .... and Pride ... and posing nude for a homoerotic magazine (Yummy) ... and so on. Based on his credits and your reasoning, I'm surprised you're not arguing that it's hurt his career and that explains why he hasn't major work in a few years. I'm arguing the opposite, that he has been out and therefore it was odd that he declined to just give some indication that he had a connection to a gay role when given how otherwise bold he is on social media.
In fact, I'll maintain if he did and integrated his more sexual and liberated social media persona into his work he'd get even more work.
But you're arguing with things I did not say about him or gay actors as a rule.
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I agree with you, I never understood, because we who belong to the LGBTQ community, we need to publicly announce, our sexuality, is not charged by a straight person, that he declares publicly or to his family and friends, that he is straight and is sexually attracted to women, so it's definitely not necessary for us to go out gay or bi.
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Why is it that people suspected of being gay are 'in the closet' but straight people in similar circumstances are not?
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