Kevin Crows

Was that supposed to have been done during his “straight porn only” years? Is that why it came up at this point in the conversation? It’s beautiful. He looks amazing. Hard for me to imagine a more ideal sex partner.
Yea this was during that time.
 
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He’s straight. Very straight. I wonder what drew him to have so much sex with men. He’s sucked and rimmed a lot of men. His cock has been inside so many males.
lol Agreed. I ran upon his scenes just recently and was amazed at how well he performed for a supposed straight guy.

He must have got more out of it than just the money, because otherwise it doesn't make sense.

It makes perfect sense to me. If I were a “straight 4 pay” performer [paid to have sex with women] I would want to be the best. So that means most of my onscreen work would be performative in nature (acting). I would disconnect myself psychologically and employ every method to make sure the scene was better than my peers - because that’s how my ego works. To me, Kevin is no different in that regard. If he had to take trimix injections and blue pills to make the scene pop that’s what he did. We need more G4P performers like him not less. :)
 
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It was probably my profile picture but maybe it was my reply style.

I tend to agree about many performers that identified with being “gay-for-pay” likely being at least bisexual, even if most ended up leaving the industry and marrying women.

Sexuality in that context is hard to define though because these were hypersexual young guys in their 20s who were advised to abstain from any sexual activity (even masterbation) for several days prior to filming. Horny guys that age will fuck the space between sofa cushions.

With NDS at the time they literal allowed those kinds of guys to just get serviced and when they did eventually top they filmed in 5 to 10 minute bursts. Other studios might film an hour of actual sex but guest NDS performers at that time (Like Phenix Saint and James Hamilton) said they literally timed them to get 10 minutes of footage in each in 3 positions before cutting to allow them to jerk off to straight porn off camera until they were ready to film the money shot.

They got better toward the end of the vanity site era but most of the scene from that time were under 25 minutes of which about 10 to 15 was actual sex. My point being plenty of 20 year old horndogs can maintain an erection, from oral sex or frottage, regardless of their actual sexuality for that length of time easily.

Kevin was different because he worked for the other studios so he always gave more than the bare minimum. Whatever else was going on he did his job.

You’ve made some great points throughout this thread and this comment highlights how studio porn can make almost anything feel and look convincing. Given the scenario you just described you can easily place fully gay models (under 25yr) on a porn set and film them having sex with women. They would look just as convincing as a G4P model having sex with a man. Except these guys would be “straight 4 pay.” lol

This is why the endless debates and arguments over a porn star’s sexuality is fruitless. But I do enjoy reading these debates nonetheless 🤭
 
lol Agreed. I ran upon his scenes just recently and was amazed at how well he performed for a supposed straight guy.



It makes perfect sense to me. If I were a “straight 4 pay” performer [paid to have sex with women] I would want to be the best. So that means most of my onscreen work would be performative in nature (acting). I would disconnect myself psychologically and employ every method to make sure the scene was better than my peers - because that’s how my ego works. To me, Kevin is no different in that regard. If he had to take trimix injections and blue pills to make the scene pop that’s what he did. We need more G4P performers like him not less. :)

except Kevin Crows was bisexual which was even explictly stated long after the fact by Dominic Ford and Jasun Mark both who directed him.

I think you can still find one of Jasun Mark's titktok where he said about Crows's sexuality that he never stated his identity but from his[Jasun] observation he enjoyed gay sex very much.
 
Which is why I Italicized straight guy in my previous comment because I anticipated someone would come behind me pointing out the other 136 sexual identities they heard he might’ve claimed throughout his career lol. :D
it's not what he claimed its what other said about him and his actions
What is more likely- what a guy who on have tons of gay sex and cum from fucking ass wo cuts is purely str8 or shade of bisexual?
 
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Why this keeps being a recurring debate, I don’t know… porn is fantasy.
Kevin Crows, the pornstar was a spectacularly beautiful man and an impressive Gay-porn performer.
His gay porn performances far exceeded in quality and technic than his straight porn performances.

As to his sexuality, or any other performer who does gay and straight porn, well, he is bisexual.
Sexuality is a spectrum not an absolute.
Bisexuality simply means you would be open to having sex with someone of the same sex.
99% of bisexuals have RELATIONSHIPS which those of the opposite sex.

Kevin Crows, who did oral, rimming, active fucking and kissing would be 70% straight, 30% gay.
And no, he would never have a relationship with another man.

Tyler Torro only did active fucking. NO ORAL, NO RIMMING, NO KISSING. Making him 90%+ straight.

Either one would punch you out or call you a faggot if you approached them in a grocery store wanting to such their cocks.

See, there is a difference between reality and fantasy.
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Why this keeps being a recurring debate, I don’t know… porn is fantasy.
It's because there's weirdly a lot of biphobia in the gay community. It is continually being brought up by gay-identifying men.

Kevin Crows, the pornstar was a spectacularly beautiful man and an impressive Gay-porn performer.
His gay porn performances far exceeded in quality and technic than his straight porn performances.
That might be subjective and swayed because you identify as 100% gay.

Bisexuality simply means you would be open to having sex with someone of the same sex.
That's actually not the definition of bisexuality.

Kevin Crows, who did oral, rimming, active fucking and kissing would be 70% straight, 30% gay.
And no, he would never have a relationship with another man.
I assume he has said this somewhere for you to be so specific.

Tyler Torro only did active fucking. NO ORAL, NO RIMMING, NO KISSING. Making him 90%+ straight.
You're defining his sexual preference and identity by his onscreen performance, which is wrong.

Either one would punch you out or call you a faggot if you approached them in a grocery store wanting to such their cocks.
A troubling guess.
 
It's because there's weirdly a lot of biphobia in the gay community. It is continually being brought up by gay-identifying men.
“Phobia” implies fear.
The problem with bisexuality and lesbianism for gay-men is frustration and visceral dislike.
Another man’s penis to a straight guy is a challenge not appreciation.

That might be subjective and swayed because you identify as 100% gay.
Being 100% gay does not reduce my appreciation for art.
There are one or two scenes in which Kevin Crows performs erotically with woman but in most of them his robotic.
He has multiple threesome scenes in which the other guy appears to be having more fun.
Hence, we’re talking about Kevin Crows and not Billy Hart.
Either way, it was all beautiful like him.
That's actually not the definition of bisexuality.
Then I suggest you look up the definition.
Bisexuality = sex attraction.
I assume he has said this somewhere for you to be so specific.
It’s just a guess. There is no objective way to “measure” an individual’s sexual attraction to someone of the same sex.
One man’s Eros is another man’s dog.

The level of commitment by Kevin Crows to his gay sex performances however says a lot.
You're defining his sexual preference and identity by his onscreen performance, which is wrong.
I’m saying he’s bisexual.
A bisexual man who would let you suck him off and may even fuck you, but he won’t like it.
Heard of the spectrum?
A troubling guess.
How is it a guess, when it is all that the “somewhat unstable” LPSG forum contributors complain about?

“Sebastian Kross gave me an ugly look because I approach him while he was tending bar and solicited a blowjob”

“Danny Mountain yelled at me at gym because I told him I love his foreskin and that his legs look great in shorts”

“Tyler Torro spat at me in the parking lot of a shopping mall because I asked him why he didn’t take cock in his hole”

Things make sense when living in reality.
 
It's because there's weirdly a lot of biphobia in the gay community. It is continually being brought up by gay-identifying men.
“Phobia” implies fear.
The root word might imply fear, but that's not how biphobia and homophobia are actually defined.

Being 100% gay does not reduce my appreciation for art.
You weren't appreciating art, you were assessing an actors performance in a straight porno. It doesn't seem unusual that you might not rate it highly, subjectively.

Bisexuality simply means you would be open to having sex with someone of the same sex.
That's actually not the definition of bisexuality.
Then I suggest you look up the definition.
Bisexuality = sex attraction.
Thanks for finally mentioning sexual attraction in your astute definition of bisexuality.
 
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Ridiculous to claim that Kevin Crows, who is by all accounts a sweetie-pie, would punch a dude or call him a faggot if the hypothetical dude “approached” him in a store with an offer of a BJ. I mean, I’m sure he would decline such an offer, but to do it violently or with the use of a homophobic slur? Try not talking out of your ass.
 
The root word might imply fear, but that's not how biphobia and homophobia are actually defined.
The incorrect definition, which you understand, is “correct”. The application of ‘fear’ rather than revulsion was deliberate psychological reprogramming by locution on the illiterate masses.
By redefining a trait, fetish or disorder with ‘phobia’, the problem is you, not them.

Far smarter people thought this out.

You weren't appreciating art, you were assessing an actors performance in a straight porno. It doesn't seem unusual that you might not rate it highly, subjectively.
This seems to be more clutching at straws than objectivity.
The fact that Billy Hart ‘achieved’ only mediocre success in straight porn says more than just flustered opinion.

I will concede to your point regarding my subjectivity - it being straight porn, Billy Hart had no reason to perform at peak, as the straights were watching the woman convulse.

Thanks for finally mentioning sexual attraction in your astute definition of bisexuality.
Touché.
Next time I shall add the word attraction, when two bisexual penises have sex.